Poll of the Day > Disney will be AXING the 7 DWARVES in Snow White after Peter Dinklage OUTRAGE!!!

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Zareth
01/28/22 6:34:29 PM
#101:


EvilMegas posted...
You hear it here folks. Latin people can't be pale.
Spaniards are white as fuck

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KodyKeir
01/29/22 12:53:31 AM
#102:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Dwarves is a term invented by Tolkien.


Codified by Tolkien; as a concept in mythology, they predate Tolkien.

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Gaawa_chan
01/29/22 12:55:59 AM
#103:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Dwarves is a term invented by Tolkien. Dwarfs is sometimes used as a term for those with dwarfism.
Not... no. He solidified the spelling and the typing in modern fantasy.

He invented Halflings/Hobbits.

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dioxxys
01/29/22 1:03:00 AM
#104:


BEERandWEED posted...
This is why woke culture should be ignored.
Kind of hard to do when its multi-million dollar companies that push it
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Sahuagin
01/29/22 1:08:42 AM
#105:


KodyKeir posted...
Codified by Tolkien; as a concept in mythology, they predate Tolkien.
supposed to be (not 100% sure) that the words "elves" and "dwarves" are created by Tolkien. before that, the words were (and still are) elfs and dwarfs.

also your name is annoying, that's the second time now lately... lol

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KodyKeir
01/29/22 1:22:48 AM
#106:


Hence codified.

Yeah, not everyone has signatures turned on, so it can be jarring when it pops up.

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Person106
01/29/22 1:41:56 AM
#107:


dioxxys posted...
Kind of hard to do when its multi-million dollar companies that push it

Consume old media, support indie artists.
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Metalsonic66
01/29/22 1:53:26 AM
#108:


Sahuagin posted...
supposed to be (not 100% sure) that the words "elves" and "dwarves" are created by Tolkien. before that, the words were (and still are) elfs and dwarfs.
I believe the "official" change to elfs and dwarfs actually happened later

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Lokarin
01/29/22 6:13:44 AM
#109:


So F's were given before Tolkein

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Blightzkrieg
01/29/22 7:56:19 AM
#110:


KodyKeir posted...
Codified by Tolkien; as a concept in mythology, they predate Tolkien.
Somebody never read the introduction to LotR smfh

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Revelation34
01/29/22 12:21:19 PM
#111:


Blightzkrieg posted...

Dwarves is a term invented by Tolkien. Dwarfs is sometimes used as a term for those with dwarfism.


No it wasn't.

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Blightzkrieg
01/29/22 12:22:09 PM
#112:


Revelation34 posted...
No it wasn't.

Blightzkrieg posted...
Somebody never read the introduction to LotR smfh


It gets super cringe when somebody calls Norse dwarfs dwarves

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Revelation34
01/29/22 12:25:40 PM
#113:


Blightzkrieg posted...


It gets super cringe when somebody calls Norse dwarfs dwarves


Somebody doesn't have to read it to know you're completely wrong.

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Arcturusisnow
01/29/22 1:37:52 PM
#114:


EvilMegas posted...
You hear it here folks. Latin people can't be pale.
Have you personally seen an albino latin american?
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Jen0125
01/29/22 1:50:27 PM
#115:


There are white Hispanics and Latinos lmao
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dioxxys
01/29/22 2:09:08 PM
#116:


Yes there are many white Hispanics/Latinos, Im one of them, most of America just doesnt realize it and thinks we are white.

That being said, I dont think the actress they picked really fits the role.
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captpackrat
01/29/22 3:00:18 PM
#117:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/7/AAQwHjAAC3TD.jpg

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Person106
01/29/22 6:29:21 PM
#118:


Arcturusisnow posted...
Have you personally seen an albino latin american?

I think people from anywhere can be albino. Albinism is more common in sub-Saharan Africa than anywhere else on Earth. They basically look like "snow-white black people." Supposedly 90% of albinos in Africa are dead from skin cancer before 40...
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Blightzkrieg
01/29/22 6:29:52 PM
#119:


Person106 posted...
I think people from anywhere can be born albino. Albinism is more common in sub-Saharan Africa than anywhere else on Earth. They basically look like "snow-white black people." Supposedly 90% of albinos in Africa are dead from skin cancer before 40...
literal white genocide

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Person106
01/29/22 6:33:51 PM
#120:


Blightzkrieg posted...
literal white genocide

I mean, they're sometimes killed because their body parts or skin are thought to have magic healing properties, but omnipresent cancer deaths aren't genocide. The only white genocide I can think of off the top of my head is when Haiti became independant and they killed (almost) all the whites. I suppose you can also count the slaying of South African farmers, but I don't know how widespread that is.
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Accrovideogames
01/30/22 11:54:07 PM
#121:


EvilMegas posted...
You hear it here folks. Latin people can't be pale.
This isn't about Latin people but Rachel Zegler, and she isn't pale.

Gaawa_chan posted...
[Tolkien] invented Halflings/Hobbits.
No he didn't. He invented the word Hobbit, but he based the race on halflings of folklore.

Person106 posted...
Supposedly 90% of albinos in Africa are dead from skin cancer before 40...
I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. The whiter your skin, the more vulnerable you are to solar radiation. Considering Africa is the least protected continent against it, it's normal that skin cancer is common among pale skinned people living there. This is why some humans have black skin. Melanin provides protection against solar radiation. Albinism is basically a complete lack of melanin, so people affected by it are badly equipped to survive under the sun. The process of tanning is basically your body adapting to increased levels of solar radiation by producing more melanin. People with albinism are incapable of producing melanin.

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Person106
01/31/22 12:17:27 AM
#122:


Accrovideogames posted...


I wouldn't be surprised if this was true. The whiter your skin, the more vulnerable you are to solar radiation. Considering Africa is the least protected continent against it, it's normal that skin cancer is common among pale skinned people living there.

It's even worse because Africa in general is poor and there isn't much variety of jobs. You'll likely have to work outdoors.
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Accrovideogames
01/31/22 1:27:55 PM
#123:


Person106 posted...
It's even worse because Africa in general is poor and there isn't much variety of jobs. You'll likely have to work outdoors.
Good point. I also want to add that being poor also translates to a weaker health care system, so there's nothing helping them fight cancer. Let's also not forget that poor education is responsible for them believing in witch doctors and pseudoscience. For fuck sake, many Africans believe that raping a virgin girl can cure AIDS and other sexually transmitted diseases.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_cleansing_myth

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kangolcone
02/09/22 3:34:51 PM
#124:


Person106 posted...
Oh, the horror. Someone referring to them as dwarves when that's what they're known as in real life. Need another hanky?

Thats not what they are known as in real life. Its literally a fantasy term. Especially when you pluralize it to dwarves, which was a spelling change made by Tolkien.

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Revelation34
02/09/22 6:33:26 PM
#125:


kangolcone posted...


Thats not what they are known as in real life. Its literally a fantasy term. Especially when you pluralize it to dwarves, which was a spelling change made by Tolkien.


For something like that there are no official terms. Just ones that are more preferred.

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Person106
02/09/22 6:33:50 PM
#126:


kangolcone posted...
Thats not what they are known as in real life. Its literally a fantasy term. Especially when you pluralize it to dwarves, which was a spelling change made by Tolkien.

Except it is what they're known as. It's just not a universal term.

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captpackrat
02/09/22 7:24:35 PM
#127:


The Dwarves in The Lord of the Rings call themselves Khazd in their own language, Khuzdul.

Khazad-dm literally means Delving of the Khazd.

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kangolcone
02/09/22 7:38:43 PM
#128:


Revelation34 posted...
For something like that there are no official terms. Just ones that are more preferred.

Except in this case, if you want to call them dwarfs, its with an f because its related to their condition of dwarfism. Dwarves is literally a Tolkien term for a fictional race.

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kangolcone
02/09/22 7:40:16 PM
#129:


Person106 posted...
Except it is what they're known as. It's just not a universal term.

Also, for funsies: https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/189/715/161.jpg

Again, its not, if you choose to call them dwarfs, it should be with an F because its dwarfism. Dwarves is a Tolkien word.

Thats a cute picture. Nobody called you Hitler, especially not me. Whats it like to play victim?

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Blightzkrieg
02/09/22 7:43:12 PM
#130:


captpackrat posted...
The Dwarves in The Lord of the Rings call themselves Khazd in their own language, Khuzdul.

Khazad-dm literally means Delving of the Khazd.
And hobbit is a translation of the westron word Kuduk.

Anyway on to the main topic, the most logical take I've heard is that since this movie is so far along in production and has never been referred to by Disney as "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs", Disney likely never intended to use dwarfs to begin with.

The idea that Dinklage alone made them change their mind is absurd.

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Person106
02/09/22 11:46:10 PM
#131:


kangolcone posted...
Again, its not, if you choose to call them dwarfs, it should be with an F because its dwarfism. Dwarves is a Tolkien word.

It sounds like you're being pedantic.

kangolcone posted...
Thats a cute picture. Nobody called you Hitler, especially not me. Whats it like to play victim?

Look at your sig, bro.
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KodyKeir
02/10/22 6:29:29 AM
#132:


Person106 posted...
Look at your sig, bro.

I mean, if your takeaway from that is "They are specifically calling me a Nazi", that says more about you, than them.

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kangolcone
02/10/22 9:40:19 AM
#133:


Person106 posted...
It sounds like you're being pedantic.

Look at your sig, bro.

I dont care what it sounds like. Its literally referring to a medical condition no a fictional race.

Do you believe that there isnt anybody who supports Nazi ideals?

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The_tall_midget
02/11/22 1:09:55 AM
#134:


kangolcone posted...
Do you believe that there isnt anybody who supports Nazi ideals?

Are we talking actual Nazis or the idiotic leftist definition of Nazi which is basically anyone who disagrees with your constantly failed ideologies?

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KodyKeir
02/11/22 1:24:39 AM
#135:


The_tall_midget posted...
leftist definition of Nazi

The leftist definition of a Nazi is a White Nationalist, which also happens to be the actual definition of a Nazi too. (funny how reality works out like that)

KodyKeir posted...
I mean, if your takeaway from that is "They are specifically calling me a Nazi", that says more about you, than them.


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Revelation34
02/11/22 4:31:50 AM
#136:


KodyKeir posted...


The leftist definition of a Nazi is a White Nationalist, which also happens to be the actual definition of a Nazi too. (funny how reality works out like that)



Nazi noun

Na zi | \ nt-s , nat- \
Definition of Nazi
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

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captpackrat
02/11/22 7:40:13 AM
#137:


Revelation34 posted...
Nazi noun

Na zi | \ nt-s , nat- \
Definition of Nazi
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler

1: a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, which controlled Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler and advocated totalitarian government, territorial expansion, anti-Semitism, and Aryan supremacy, all these leading directly to World War II and the Holocaust.

2 : (often lowercase) a person elsewhere who holds similar views.

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BEERandWEED
02/11/22 7:46:13 AM
#138:


Does revelation34 truly not understand that Aryan supremacy and White supremacy are the same thing?

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SeahorseCpt89
02/11/22 9:14:06 AM
#139:


Unbridled9 posted...
I'm confused. First off, they're not humans, they're dwarves. An entire species. Secondly, maybe I'm remembering this wrong, but they're all portrayed relatively positively, and heroically right? Not disabled or anything of the sort.
I would say so. They do chase down the witch without hesitation at the end of the film.

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The_tall_midget
02/11/22 6:48:58 PM
#140:


KodyKeir posted...
The leftist definition of a Nazi is a White Nationalist, which also happens to be the actual definition of a Nazi too. (funny how reality works out like that)

No, but thanks to you lefties for continuing to prove my point.

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KodyKeir
02/11/22 7:07:40 PM
#141:


The_tall_midget posted...
No, but thanks to you lefties for continuing to prove my point.

Unless your point is "Nazi's are bad, White Nationals are bad, and I'm against them" (say it, write it, live it) the only "point" I've seen from you, is the White Nationalist tagline as your signature.

I can't remember, did we already talk about (in this thread) how Tolkien didn't want his works associated with Disney because of Disney's (perceived) relationship to the Nazi regime?

I'm looking up at the post topic and trying to remember how it became a rallying point for individuals who actively refuse to see how their ideology aligns with Nationalism. The Venn Diagram between modern conservatism and the rise in power of the Nazi party may not be a perfect circle, but it could certainly be classified as an oblate spheroid.

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Buddyblade
02/11/22 9:39:20 PM
#142:


wpot posted...
Do dwarves need to be retired as a mythical race because of the negative associations with the word? Is Gimli OK? I don't really see any difference between him and the Snow White dwarves except that the SW dwarves are more comic.

Personally I would start the movie with a short disclaimer stating that the "dwarves" are a mythical race that appear regularly in classic fantasy and should not be associated with real-life little people the same way that giants in fantasy aren't associated with real-life people who have gigantism. Snow White without the dwarves wouldn't be Snow White.
Yes.

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The_tall_midget
02/12/22 12:37:40 AM
#143:


The cancer of the left sjw'ism continues to eat itself. From some shit stain in Hollywood, no less.

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