Current Events > elon musk reminds ppl he is a awful vile piece of crap

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Unknown5uspect posted...

Why? Is it wrong for me to wanna see what life is like without autism?

Are you gonna un-cure yourself if you don't like it?

AceMos posted...

thats your body not your mind

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/2/AABiy1AAC3fK.jpg

This article is from November 19, 2019. Who cares? It never materialized.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

Are you gonna un-cure yourself if you don't like it?

What does that matter to you? You aren't affected by my hypothetical choice to do it so why are you so against it?

IdiotMachine posted...

This article is from November 19, 2019. Who cares? It never materialized.

Isn't this referring to neuralink? It's still being developed.

IdiotMachine posted...

This article is from November 19, 2019. Who cares? It never materialized.

From Bench to Bedside takes at least 10 to 15 years, or sometimes it can take much longer.

@AceMos are you going to tell us what the proper differentiation is between somebody with autism who can communicate, take care of themselves, and be an active part of society and somebody with autism who cant do any of those things if there is no such thing as high functioning?

Unknown5uspect posted...

What does that matter to you? You aren't affected by my hypothetical choice to do it so why are you so against it?

Because I care about others

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I mean, I still think this is over complicating this far more than is needed.

Look at medicine. If you find a benign tumor that is in a non problematic area, and unlikely to grow, the decision could be made that treatment is more invasive/higher risk than the benefit it would confer.

Same reason we don't immediately go to ECT for depression, despite its high effectiveness.

Always wanted to try ECT

Not because I need it

I just want to feel my brain reset

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This sentiment does exist amongst the "Deaf community/culture" (capital D).

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Yikes

Dragon239 posted...

This sentiment does exist amongst the "Deaf community/culture" (capital D).

But many acknowledge that the Deaf community can be extremely toxic. (I actually think this is a good sociological comparison)

tenlar who gets to decide if a person gets the procedure

whats to stop parents doing it to their children

who gets to give CONSENT

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Again, if someone is faring just fine, why would we treat?

This is a fake dilemma.

AceMos posted...

tenlar who gets to decide if a person gets the procedure

whats to stop parents doing it to their children

who gets to give CONSENT

This is not a response to the question that I asked you.

Never too early in the day for some AceMos outrage.

So lets assume this happens.

Cant you just, you know, not get it?

bigblu89 posted...

So lets assume this happens.

Cant you just, you know, not get it?

Sure, but I think the concern is more about the phrasing and how this influences how people view autistic etc people (as "diseased" in need of "a cure" which implies lesser-than, perhaps), as well as eg 12 year olds who lack strong self-government abilities and might be forced to get it just because their parents said so

AceMos posted...

there is no such thing as high functioning thats a term that was made up by therapists to make parents not over ract when they hear the word

My wife is a social worker, high-functioning and low-functioning are definitely real things.

Ricemills posted...

i still wonder why the crowd that spread the hoax that Bill Gates endorsing vaccines to plant microchips are usually also cheers for for Elon Musk's microchips.

THIS!!!!!

Dragon239 posted...

12 year olds who lack strong self-government abilities and might be forced to get it just because their parents said so

The parents cannot just decide to treat their child with anything. There needs to be a doctor to prescribe. To assess.

High-functioning autism isn't an official medical term or diagnosis. It's an informal one some people use when they talk about people with an autism spectrum disorder who can speak, read, write, and handle basic life skills like eating and getting dressed. They can live independently.Dec 4, 2020

https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/high-functioning-autism

wouldnt the micro chips be then controlling their brain? I dont like this at all

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This exists for some physical ailments as well (many disorders involving the pituitary gland). I think this concern is just rooted in the overstated pop culture "savant" nature of autism.

Dragon239 posted...

Sure, but I think the concern is more about the phrasing and how this influences how people view autistic etc people (as "diseased" in need of "a cure" which implies lesser-than, perhaps), as well as eg 12 year olds who lack strong self-government abilities and might be forced to get it just because their parents said so

Do you think of people who wear prescriptive eyewear as "lesser"?

AceMos posted...

High-functioning autism isn't an official medical term or diagnosis. It's an informal one some people use when they talk about people with an autism spectrum disorder who can speak, read, write, and handle basic life skills like eating and getting dressed. They can live independently.Dec 4, 2020

https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/high-functioning-autism

When the disorder got collapsed into a spectrum disorder, the DSM V, they added an explicit severity scale...

Literally part of the diagnosis.

Just a reminder that this pig's bullshit isn't going to cure anything.

AceMos posted...

High-functioning autism isn't an official medical term or diagnosis. It's an informal one some people use when they talk about people with an autism spectrum disorder who can speak, read, write, and handle basic life skills like eating and getting dressed. They can live independently.Dec 4, 2020

https://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/high-functioning-autism

Okay, so there is such a thing as high functioning then.

Tenlaar posted...

Okay, so there is such a thing as high functioning then.

He's going to deny this. He posted that link thinking it proved his argument.

More technically, autism occurs on a spectrum is how it may be phrased, but it is the same idea as high/low functioning.

yeah, I would have liked something to cure my friend's brother's schizophrenia, who tried to kill his dad before killing himself. that would've been cool. I think he would've liked it too

Anteaterking posted...

Do you think of people who wear prescriptive eyewear as "lesser"?

No, I don't, but I do think it's an impairment, and it's one I have and would love to have cured/corrected/fixed/solved.

Elon Musk is a colossal dweeb that promises a lot of things to hype up the cult of personality he's built around himself

Even if this does come to fruition, it's not Elon Musk solving shit, it's a team of researchers and engineers whose names Elon fanboys don't care to know for some reason

AceMos posted...

because its who i am its who ive been my entire life it would fundamentally change my personality

i mean, im glad you are able to own it, but some people are far worse off. also, its like calling a company that makes prosthetic body parts trash, because someone born without their arm fully developed shouldn't want a prosthetic because its "who they are".

I get the idea of not wanting to be denied for who you are, but that is ultimately going to be the case whether someone is being blunt or being nice about it. It's like with Down syndrome. People afflicted with it can still live quality lives and find happiness, but it's still something that absolutely should be cured when we have the medical science for it.

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Not sure why you think there's no qualifiers?

Like even the diagnosis is qualified!

We don't treat anything unless it's interferring with the well being / day-to-day life of the patient.

I get that the way it's worded can sound insensitive

Prismsblade posted...

At the very least we should be hoping for his company's success in this regard. Idk what people believe to gain thinking otherwise and demonizing this.

I have a hard time thinking of one of the apex capitalists doing this as an altruistic endeavour. We barely understand brain functions and how it develops disabilities, yet they want to hypothesize implanting chips to cure them.

Dragon239 posted...

No, I don't, but I do think it's an impairment, and it's one I have and would love to have cured/corrected/fixed/solved.

But you're suggesting that having a cure/correction for autism means that people would view them as lesser, like it's a language thing. The reality is that many people in society view people with ASD as lesser regardless of whether there is a cure or not. Those people don't matter, they aren't going to change their mind anyway.

It's as CovXY said. People are treating it differently because it's mental instead of physical.

I have depression and I would love to be cured. I don't care if it's "my mind", lol, snip these thought patterns the fuck out of my brain.

If I could cure mine, I would jump at the chance. As long as there's no secret mind-control going on, I am down for that.

VipaGTS posted...

i mean, im glad you are able to own it, but some people are far worse off. also, its like calling a company that makes prosthetic body parts trash, because someone born without their arm fully developed shouldn't want a prosthetic because its "who they are".

It's actually nothing like that.

If I could cure my genetic condition, I'd do it in a heartbeat, even as mild as mine might be.

That said, I don't think Elon gives a single fuck about helping people and was just saying this to build hype for something that will do absolutely nothing for anyone.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1487861173626101760