Current Events > What is your opinion on roids and actors pretending they didn't use them?

(+) Yeah! (+)

For instance Chris Hemsworth has an excercise app that teaches you how to get a body like his....except it doesn't mention you should take roids.

No opinion

Dakimakura posted...

No opinion

Robert Pattison didn't bulk up for Batman. This is likely because the unspoken understanding that doing so would mean he had to take roids.

Are you ok with skinny Batman?

Modern "skinny" batman is probably way more bulked up than Batman prior to the 90s or so.

Dakimakura posted...

Modern "skinny" batman is probably way more bulked up than Batman prior to the 90s or so.

Here he is with no shirt

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/2/6/AAefUOAAC3uO.jpg

How do we know they use them? Dont see everybody putting their body at risks over massive gains.

I think steroid use should be completely transparent and the widespread phenomena of celebrities and fitness influencers lying about it is super bad for society and young men's self image problems. I'm glad there's a recent movement among certain youtube influencers to combat this.

That said, 1) if you take PEDs in a sport where it is against the rules and actually against the spirit of the sport then you are piece of shit, and 2) I actually don't blame the celebrities so much, but rather the culture surrounding what they do. Like if someone said to me "we'll pay you $15 million to get jacked in 6 months, take these drugs and just tell everyone you eat chicken and brown rice"...yeah I'd fucking lie through my teeth too.

WingsOfGood posted...

Here he is with no shirt

That's really bulked up compared to dudes in the past. Plus his suit will be way way more padded and modern cinema will be used to alter what he actually looks like.

JuanCarlos1 posted...

How do we know they use them? Dont see everybody putting their body at risks over massive gains.

Because we know pretty well what the constraints of muscle gain/fat loss looks like by now and how it differs when someone has supraphysiological help. Bottom line, no fucking way does someone put on 40lbs of muscle in 6 months by doing some bullshit bosu ball fitness routine and eating lean protein, and yet that is exactly the sort of claims these celebrities are making in these roles.

The risks aren't that bad if it's short term and you have good pharma knowledge behind you, also.

WingsOfGood posted...

Robert Pattison didn't bulk up for Batman. This is likely because the unspoken understanding that doing so would mean he had to take roids.

Are you ok with skinny Batman?

Ehh he probably worked out enough to gain SOME muscle. But he definitely didn't bulk up like Hemsworth did

Gonna post this here as it's something I typed up before to a thread with similar questions -

If you have average genetics and you do everything right, you might put on 15lbs of muscle in your first year of training. That would be really, really good.

If you have stellar genetics and you do everything right, that figure might look more like 25lbs. That would be pretty incredible.

Remember, this is FIRST year of training. For year 2 you can half that number. For year 3 half it again.

An average guy who does everything right but doesn't use PEDs can maybe put on 25-30lbs of muscle in 3 years with dedicated training and diet, that is the benchmark we're starting with. This would be really excellent progress.

These celebrities are definitely not new trainees, most of them have starting bases that suggest years of training. And yet prior to whatever role they put on 40lbs of muscle with minimal fat gain in 6 months???

Like imagine if we used that as a benchmark. What we're saying here is that a beginner should expect to be able to put on at least 60-80lbs of muscle in a year with very little fat gain. Do you have any idea how absurd that is?

For reference, jay cutler - arguably the greatest bodybuilder of all time and someone with undoubtedly some of the greatest muscle building genetics the world has ever known - claimed to put on 50lbs of muscle in his first year of lifting when he was natural. That is an absurd number but at least in his case it's somewhat believable. And it still doesn't even scratch the number these celebrities are purporting to.

I don't kare about non-athletic kompetitive people taking roids. You're an actor just trying to look the part for a role, so I don't see the shame in it.

However, people who sell/reccomend things to get in shape, while leaving out the fact that they themselves got there with roids, kan get fucked.