Current Events > Reminder that the "return to normal crowd" are borderline eugenicists.

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RobertDoback 02/21/22 7:49:48 AM #1:	https://twitter.com/realLandsEnd/status/1495443031071150082?t=WwABJa68yGIurwug_sOS2A&s=19 After being told that: -millions of children are still unvaccinated -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status -vaccine protection is waning -you still can catch and spread COVID despite being vaccinated -fully vaccinated deaths are actually trending up -mild cases still lead to brain damage -Omicron subvariants (yes, two) are emerging rapidly ...and you still choose to go maskless and attend parties/gatherings/concerts/restaurants, you are now part of the problem. You willingly put others at risk because you can't stay home and wear a mask. Now some of you are thinking "oh. There goes Greg again, being a smug shut in." Nope. Think of me as the Cart Narc or someone who chases after litter bugs. Except neither littering* or leaving your cart in the lot results in someone catching a virus and dying or having their lives changed, seemingly permanently. At this point, if you can accept that your behavior may cause someone else to die or become sick, you are no better than the antivaxxers anymore. So if you are a good person who truly cares about the well being of others, realize that the antivax morons are not the ONLY ONES AT RISK and therefore you still have a responsibility to stop the spread. littering does kill animals and destroys ecosystems. --- Don't lose your dinosaur.* GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962831802] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/realLandsEnd/status/1495443031071150082?t=WwABJa68yGIurwug_sOS2A&s=19 After being told that: -millions of children are still unvaccinated -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status -vaccine protection is waning -you still can catch and spread COVID despite being vaccinated -fully vaccinated deaths are actually trending up -mild cases still lead to brain damage -Omicron subvariants (yes, two) are emerging rapidly ...and you still choose to go maskless and attend parties/gatherings/concerts/restaurants, you are now part of the problem. You willingly put others at risk because you can't stay home and wear a mask. Now some of you are thinking "oh. There goes Greg again, being a smug shut in." Nope. Think of me as the Cart Narc or someone who chases after litter bugs. Except neither littering* or leaving your cart in the lot results in someone catching a virus and dying or having their lives changed, seemingly permanently. At this point, if you can accept that your behavior may cause someone else to die or become sick, you are no better than the antivaxxers anymore. So if you are a good person who truly cares about the well being of others, realize that the antivax morons are not the ONLY ONES AT RISK and therefore you still have a responsibility to stop the spread. *littering does kill animals and destroys ecosystems. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 02/21/22 7:51:20 AM #2:	So, it's not good. But I don't think you know what the term eugenicist means. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:962831815] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>So, it's not good. But I don't think you know what the term eugenicist means. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TwoDoorPC 02/21/22 7:51:35 AM #3:	"yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people --- This post is brought to you by ExpressVPN <cite>TwoDoorPC posted [p:962831822] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>"yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 7:52:50 AM #4:	COVxy posted... So, it's not good. But I don't think you know what the term eugenicist means. No, I do. Hence why I said "borderline." TwoDoorPC posted... "yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people Bipartisan stupidity. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962831845] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite> <quote>So, it's not good. But I don't think you know what the term eugenicist means.</quote> No, I do. Hence why I said "borderline." TwoDoorPC posted... </cite> <quote>"yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people</quote> Bipartisan stupidity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/21/22 7:55:06 AM #5:	TwoDoorPC posted... "yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people "You can't change the world. Just follow the rules. Also, I will die before I wear a mask or get a shot! Fuck the police!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:962831870] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>TwoDoorPC posted... </cite> <quote>"yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people</quote>"You can't change the world. Just follow the rules. Also, I will die before I wear a mask or get a shot! Fuck the police!" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JuanCarlos1 02/21/22 7:55:18 AM #6:	Youre giving them too much credit. Theyre not thinking on any of that. It just comes down to selfish, dumb, ignorant people. --- Mas dicen, que en las dimensiones de nuestro ser... hay muchos detalles por conocer... <cite>JuanCarlos1 posted [p:962831876] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Youre giving them too much credit. Theyre not thinking on any of that. It just comes down to selfish, dumb, ignorant people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DowntownMrSmith 02/21/22 8:11:37 AM #7:	Thank goodness people who think like the TC are part of a rapidly declining minority. The mask diehards are so committed to signaling their virtue on this I even see them doing ridiculous things like riding a bike outside with a mask. <cite>DowntownMrSmith posted [p:962832115] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Thank goodness people who think like the TC are part of a rapidly declining minority. The mask diehards are so committed to signaling their virtue on this I even see them doing ridiculous things like riding a bike outside with a mask. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xXfireglzXx 02/21/22 8:12:38 AM #8:	CE's a hoot sometimes. --- Official ANCIENT Killer. I make account bets from time to time so either man up or shut up. The Quote is dedicated to those we have lost. <cite>xXfireglzXx posted [p:962832131] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>CE's a hoot sometimes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nfearurspecimn 02/21/22 8:13:19 AM #9:	"Weed out the weak." mentality. --- Wake up. You have to wake up. currently a preta/hungry ghost Dai Grepher: I was wrong. My entire theory is incorrect. Zero Mission IS a remake of Metroid. <cite>nfearurspecimn posted [p:962832137] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>"Weed out the weak." mentality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_Creep_2020 02/21/22 8:14:15 AM #10:	Some of you may die, but thats a risk Im willing to take --- Have I carved enough, my Lord? Child, you are a bone <cite>The_Creep_2020 posted [p:962832146] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote> Some of you may die, but thats a risk Im willing to take </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 8:16:10 AM #11:	hockeybub89 posted... You can't change the world. I've heard this line way too many times for comfort. JuanCarlos1 posted... Youre giving them too much credit. Theyre not thinking on any of that. It just comes down to selfish, dumb, ignorant people. I know, but my problem is how many people have bought into it. I know so many people on here and offline that took COVID seriously, but are partaking in the free for all. And the people think because governments are caving that they are justified; it's like they can't think for themselves and would rather play naive and use their government's multiple failings to justify their behavior. It's disappointing and like many things, history books will not be kind to us for this period. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962832178] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>You can't change the world.</quote> I've heard this line way too many times for comfort. JuanCarlos1 posted... </cite> <quote>Youre giving them too much credit. Theyre not thinking on any of that. It just comes down to selfish, dumb, ignorant people.</quote> I know, but my problem is how many people have bought into it. I know so many people on here and offline that took COVID seriously, but are partaking in the free for all. And the people think because governments are caving that they are justified; it's like they can't think for themselves and would rather play naive and use their government's multiple failings to justify their behavior. It's disappointing and like many things, history books will not be kind to us for this period. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 12:25:39 PM #12:	nfearurspecimn posted... "Weed out the weak." mentality. The_Creep_2020 posted... Some of you may die, but thats a risk Im willing to take Precisely. People are consciously weighing out risks based on how bored they are versus the chance they will spread a virus that could kill someone or change their life forever and it is disgusting. Fucking disgusting. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962837697] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>nfearurspecimn posted... </cite> <quote>"Weed out the weak." mentality.</quote> The_Creep_2020 posted... </cite> <quote>Some of you may die, but thats a risk Im willing to take</quote> Precisely. People are consciously weighing out risks based on how bored they are versus the chance they will spread a virus that could kill someone or change their life forever and it is disgusting. Fucking disgusting. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yuuko-Chan 02/21/22 12:26:41 PM #13:	I dont believe population control via death and suffering. --- Mac Book Pro 16 - 6-Core i7-9750H @ 2.60GHz - 32gb DDR4 2667 MHz - Radeon Pro 5500M 8gb - 2TB Apple SSD Now Playing: Metroid Dread, Tales of Arise, Dead By Daylight <cite>Yuuko-Chan posted [p:962837727] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>I dont believe population control via death and suffering. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 5:02:50 PM #14:	Yuuko-Chan posted... I dont believe population control via death and suffering. It's either that or Dems recognize it isn't killing their voters are off like it is the GQP. My only problem is it will come at the expense of our health care systems, and anyone else that is at risk but not a PoS. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962845507] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Yuuko-Chan posted... </cite> <quote>I dont believe population control via death and suffering.</quote> It's either that or Dems recognize it isn't killing their voters are off like it is the GQP. My only problem is it will come at the expense of our health care systems, and anyone else that is at risk but not a PoS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WorsCaseOntario 02/21/22 5:04:36 PM #15:	TwoDoorPC posted... "yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people it's been two years. People are tired of it --- Frankly my dear, I don't give a ham. <cite>WorsCaseOntario posted [p:962845553] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>TwoDoorPC posted... </cite> <quote>"yeah, but i'm bored of this virus and all the rules" ~ dumb people</quote>it's been two years. People are tired of it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 5:10:45 PM #16:	WorsCaseOntario posted... it's been two years. People are tired of it Guess COVID didn't get that memo. People are going to be real tired of not having staffed hospitals in the coming years with the mass exodus of health care workers. But hey, we chose entertainment over safety because people were just soooo bored . Fucking joke of a species. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962845708] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>WorsCaseOntario posted... </cite> <quote>it's been two years. People are tired of it</quote> Guess COVID didn't get that memo. People are going to be real tired of not having staffed hospitals in the coming years with the mass exodus of health care workers. But hey, we chose entertainment over safety because people were just soooo bored . Fucking joke of a species. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 02/21/22 5:10:53 PM #17:	I wasn't smarter than the experts when they advised that we all mask up and get vaccinated, so I listened to them and masked up wherever it was required, and got the vaccine and booster the day it was available to me. Just like I wasn't smarter than they experts when they said the numbers are low enough that I no longer need to mask up in certain places if I am fully vaccinated. I do what my doctor advises me to do, because I am not smarter than she is when it comes to viral infections. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:962845710] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>I wasn't smarter than the experts when they advised that we all mask up and get vaccinated, so I listened to them and masked up wherever it was required, and got the vaccine and booster the day it was available to me. Just like I wasn't smarter than they experts when they said the numbers are low enough that I no longer need to mask up in certain places if I am fully vaccinated. I do what my doctor advises me to do, because I am not smarter than she is when it comes to viral infections. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/21/22 5:13:59 PM #18:	Covid is now just a part of life. No sense in closing down anymore --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:962845780] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Covid is now just a part of life. No sense in closing down anymore </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 5:15:11 PM #19:	bigblu89 posted... Just like I wasn't smarter than they experts when they said the numbers are low enough that I no longer need to mask up in certain places if I am fully vaccinated. What experts are you talking about again? Because the WHO has maintained masking + mitigation efforts ON TOP of vaccinations. There are also plenty of experts that say the complete opposite of what you're saying. In fact, what are you even talking about at this point? Something tells me you're not posting in good faith. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962845807] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>bigblu89 posted... </cite> <quote>Just like I wasn't smarter than they experts when they said the numbers are low enough that I no longer need to mask up in certain places if I am fully vaccinated.</quote> What experts are you talking about again? Because the WHO has maintained masking + mitigation efforts ON TOP of vaccinations. There are also plenty of experts that say the complete opposite of what you're saying. In fact, what are you even talking about at this point? Something tells me you're not posting in good faith. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 5:16:33 PM #20:	MutantJohn posted... Covid is now just a part of life. No sense in closing down anymore Actually there's a lot of sense in it. We just don't have enough of it as a society. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962845838] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Covid is now just a part of life. No sense in closing down anymore</quote> Actually there's a lot of sense in it. We just don't have enough of it as a society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rexdragon125 02/21/22 5:17:44 PM #21:	Plus there are some antivaxxers who think mRNA vaccines tarnish their pure blood and DNA <cite>Rexdragon125 posted [p:962845884] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Plus there are some antivaxxers who think mRNA vaccines tarnish their pure blood and DNA </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/21/22 5:19:29 PM #22:	RobertDoback posted... Actually there's a lot of sense in it. We just don't have enough of it as a society. Do you have kids? A job you can't work remotely? --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:962845937] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>Actually there's a lot of sense in it. We just don't have enough of it as a society.</quote>Do you have kids? A job you can't work remotely? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bigblu89 02/21/22 5:20:01 PM #23:	RobertDoback posted... What experts are you talking about again? Because the WHO has maintained masking + mitigation efforts ON TOP of vaccinations. There are also plenty of experts that say the complete opposite of what you're saying. In fact, what are you even talking about at this point? Something tells me you're not posting in good faith. I'm not talking about right now, I'm talking about last summer when the infection and vaccination numbers got to the point where the CDC was saying that some restriction could be eased. Once things got bad again, and the suggestion was masking even if you are vaccinated, I started masking up again. I'm on your side, buddy. I follow the science. I'm vaxxed, boosted, and the only time I'm not masked is when I'm outdoors, at my work desk (as I have my own office), or I'm home/in my car. Something tells ME you're just looking for an argument that isn't there. One of those "If you don't agree with me 100%, your're 100% wrong" kind of arguments. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. <cite>bigblu89 posted [p:962845952] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>What experts are you talking about again? Because the WHO has maintained masking + mitigation efforts ON TOP of vaccinations. There are also plenty of experts that say the complete opposite of what you're saying. In fact, what are you even talking about at this point? Something tells me you're not posting in good faith.</quote>I'm not talking about right now, I'm talking about last summer when the infection and vaccination numbers got to the point where the CDC was saying that some restriction could be eased. Once things got bad again, and the suggestion was masking even if you are vaccinated, I started masking up again. I'm on your side, buddy. I follow the science. I'm vaxxed, boosted, and the only time I'm not masked is when I'm outdoors, at my work desk (as I have my own office), or I'm home/in my car. Something tells ME you're just looking for an argument that isn't there. One of those "If you don't agree with me 100%, your're 100% wrong" kind of arguments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 02/21/22 5:20:52 PM #24:	Using kids unvaccinated as reasoning for this is disingenuous appeal to emotion because Covid is and always has been comparatively deadly to the seasonal flu for the under 18 population if we have reached the theoretical ceiling on vaccines for the US then there is otherwise no way out of this pandemic A vaccine mandate isnt going to happen (even though it should), it is literally impossible for the entire world to shut down in a way that would effectively eradicate covid you dont have to be super happy with it but its a fact of life at this point. Some of us have just realized it sooner than you --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:962845978] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Using kids unvaccinated as reasoning for this is disingenuous appeal to emotion because Covid is and always has been comparatively deadly to the seasonal flu for the under 18 population if we have reached the theoretical ceiling on vaccines for the US then there is otherwise no way out of this pandemic A vaccine mandate isnt going to happen (even though it should), it is literally impossible for the entire world to shut down in a way that would effectively eradicate covid you dont have to be super happy with it but its a fact of life at this point. Some of us have just realized it sooner than you </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RamboCell29 02/21/22 5:26:16 PM #25:	TC is more than welcome to stay home and hide. The rest of us have lives to live. --- Ron DeSantis/Tim Scott 2024 <cite>RamboCell29 posted [p:962846119] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>TC is more than welcome to stay home and hide. The rest of us have lives to live. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kain Highwind 02/21/22 5:31:28 PM #26:	RobertDoback posted... Actually there's a lot of sense in it. We just don't have enough of it as a society. so we should close down again? What abuot people that are vaxxed? Are they part of the problem if they go out to eat? --- http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9362/davidbowie.jpg David Bowie <cite>Kain Highwind posted [p:962846260] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>Actually there's a lot of sense in it. We just don't have enough of it as a society.</quote>so we should close down again? What abuot people that are vaxxed? Are they part of the problem if they go out to eat? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 5:37:07 PM #27:	I mean, it's the MAGAs who are the overwhelmingly unvaccinated and dying --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962846428] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>I mean, it's the MAGAs who are the overwhelmingly unvaccinated and dying </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 5:55:53 PM #28:	MutantJohn posted... Do you have kids? A job you can't work remotely? Fortunately neither. Ideally monetary support would be reinstated. But neither of these are happening any time soon. Regardless, we obviously have to live with this so there is no eradicating it. But we can still do a lot to lessen the spread so hospitals aren't overrun. You do realize what that means, right? We can all continue on with our lives as is, but with each wave, hospitilzations and deaths will further strain our already strained health systems. We cannot sustain like this long term. That is my point in all of this. bigblu89 posted... I'm not talking about right now, I'm talking about last summer when the infection and vaccination numbers got to the point where the CDC was saying that some restriction could be eased. Once things got bad again, and the suggestion was masking even if you are vaccinated, I started masking up again. I'm on your side, buddy. I follow the science. I'm vaxxed, boosted, and the only time I'm not masked is when I'm outdoors, at my work desk (as I have my own office), or I'm home/in my car. My apologies. Your post came off to me like an implication that I think I know more than the experts, which is what I've been told a few times despite always backing up my claims with experts or health figure heads like Fauci or Dr. Tedros. Even in May when our CDC changed the guidelines, experts all around were throwing their hands up. It was reckless. And while they adjusted down the road, there was no putting the to toothpaste back in that point. bigblu89 posted... Something tells ME you're just looking for an argument that isn't there. One of those "If you don't agree with me 100%, your're 100% wrong" kind of arguments. No sir. Plenty of people agree with me and I'm actually looking for that number to grow. Not because I am right, but because it is what's right and what is needed for us to survive this thing. I've wanted to be wrong over and over again. But as you can see by the replies, the argument is absolutely there. So if just one person who is on the side of throwing caution to the wind can actually reconsider putting on their masks and not going to a concert--especially if they have, say, a newborn baby at home. But again, I am sorry for my initial reaction. TheGoldenEel posted... Using kids unvaccinated as reasoning for this is disingenuous appeal to emotion because Covid is and always has been comparatively deadly to the seasonal flu for the under 18 population if we have reached the theoretical ceiling on vaccines for the US then there is otherwise no way out of this pandemic A vaccine mandate isnt going to happen (even though it should), it is literally impossible for the entire world to shut down in a way that would effectively eradicate covid you dont have to be super happy with it but its a fact of life at this point. Some of us have just realized it sooner than you Eel. I've wasted too many responses on you. You are wrong here. You're disingenuously comparing COVID to the flu and assuming I want COVID eradicated. Also, you nitpicked one point out of multiple...just stop. Kain Highwind posted... so we should close down again? What abuot people that are vaxxed? Are they part of the problem if they go out to eat? Kain, you ask me this type of stuff every time. I've made it clear--yes, if you are partaking in activity that further spreads the virus, you are part of the problem. If this were a video game with an honor system, the "normalcy" folks are getting the negative karma. I liken it to drunk driving. Sure, you may have made it home without hitting someone but like, it was still pretty shitty to take the risk. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962847015] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Do you have kids? A job you can't work remotely?</quote> Fortunately neither. Ideally monetary support would be reinstated. But neither of these are happening any time soon. Regardless, we obviously have to live with this so there is no eradicating it. But we can still do a lot to lessen the spread so hospitals aren't overrun. You do realize what that means, right? We can all continue on with our lives as is, but with each wave, hospitilzations and deaths will further strain our already strained health systems. We cannot sustain like this long term. That is my point in all of this. bigblu89 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not talking about right now, I'm talking about last summer when the infection and vaccination numbers got to the point where the CDC was saying that some restriction could be eased. Once things got bad again, and the suggestion was masking even if you are vaccinated, I started masking up again. I'm on your side, buddy. I follow the science. I'm vaxxed, boosted, and the only time I'm not masked is when I'm outdoors, at my work desk (as I have my own office), or I'm home/in my car.</quote> My apologies. Your post came off to me like an implication that I think I know more than the experts, which is what I've been told a few times despite always backing up my claims with experts or health figure heads like Fauci or Dr. Tedros. Even in May when our CDC changed the guidelines, experts all around were throwing their hands up. It was reckless. And while they adjusted down the road, there was no putting the to toothpaste back in that point. bigblu89 posted... </cite> <quote>Something tells ME you're just looking for an argument that isn't there. One of those "If you don't agree with me 100%, your're 100% wrong" kind of arguments.</quote> No sir. Plenty of people agree with me and I'm actually looking for that number to grow. Not because I am right, but because it is what's right and what is needed for us to survive this thing. I've wanted to be wrong over and over again. But as you can see by the replies, the argument is absolutely there. So if just one person who is on the side of throwing caution to the wind can actually reconsider putting on their masks and not going to a concert--especially if they have, say, a newborn baby at home. But again, I am sorry for my initial reaction. TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>Using kids unvaccinated as reasoning for this is disingenuous appeal to emotion because Covid is and always has been comparatively deadly to the seasonal flu for the under 18 population if we have reached the theoretical ceiling on vaccines for the US then there is otherwise no way out of this pandemic A vaccine mandate isnt going to happen (even though it should), it is literally impossible for the entire world to shut down in a way that would effectively eradicate covid you dont have to be super happy with it but its a fact of life at this point. Some of us have just realized it sooner than you</quote> Eel. I've wasted too many responses on you. You are wrong here. You're disingenuously comparing COVID to the flu and assuming I want COVID eradicated. Also, you nitpicked one point out of multiple...just stop. Kain Highwind posted... </cite> <quote>so we should close down again? What abuot people that are vaxxed? Are they part of the problem if they go out to eat?</quote> Kain, you ask me this type of stuff every time. I've made it clear--yes, if you are partaking in activity that further spreads the virus, you are part of the problem. If this were a video game with an honor system, the "normalcy" folks are getting the negative karma. I liken it to drunk driving. Sure, you may have made it home without hitting someone but like, it was still pretty shitty to take the risk. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheGoldenEel 02/21/22 6:01:28 PM #29:	what is the endgame, in your opinion? --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ <cite>TheGoldenEel posted [p:962847146] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>what is the endgame, in your opinion? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 6:21:11 PM #30:	TheGoldenEel posted... what is the endgame, in your opinion? Living with it while having the tools to not overwhelm hospitals to the point where nurses and doctors are quitting left and right due to the stress and trauma of dealing with wave after wave. By tools, I mean readily available treatments akin to Tamiflu with the flu. Yes, we have the vaccine--but for one, we have a subset of the population that just will not be vaccinated. While it is hard to sympathize with them, there are also human beings that will be forced to deal with those individuals and they are at their breaking points as is. And two, the vaccines are waning. Boosters are waning. Breakthrough deaths and hospitilzations are trending up. Vaccines are by far the greatest tool we have to protect ourselves and hopefully avoid becoming a statistic, but there is more that must be done to stop the spread as much as we can so we can stop overcrowding hospitals and morgues because as it stands, we cannot last like this. With the way this thing is evolving, we may have another Omicron wave in the next few months. And it's easy for us to ride out the waves when we don't work at a hospital--or even need a hospital--but there's no way we can sustain this for years to come. There are plenty of doctors, pediatricians, virologists, etc. to follow on social media to give you an idea of what it's looking like in their bubbles, including their thoughts on mitigation efforts being dropped and the kind of long term issues they're seeing in patients. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962847701] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>TheGoldenEel posted... </cite> <quote>what is the endgame, in your opinion?</quote> Living with it while having the tools to not overwhelm hospitals to the point where nurses and doctors are quitting left and right due to the stress and trauma of dealing with wave after wave. By tools, I mean readily available treatments akin to Tamiflu with the flu. Yes, we have the vaccine--but for one, we have a subset of the population that just will not be vaccinated. While it is hard to sympathize with them, there are also human beings that will be forced to deal with those individuals and they are at their breaking points as is. And two, the vaccines are waning. Boosters are waning. Breakthrough deaths and hospitilzations are trending up. Vaccines are by far the greatest tool we have to protect ourselves and hopefully avoid becoming a statistic, but there is more that must be done to stop the spread as much as we can so we can stop overcrowding hospitals and morgues because as it stands, we cannot last like this. With the way this thing is evolving, we may have another Omicron wave in the next few months. And it's easy for us to ride out the waves when we don't work at a hospital--or even need a hospital--but there's no way we can sustain this for years to come. There are plenty of doctors, pediatricians, virologists, etc. to follow on social media to give you an idea of what it's looking like in their bubbles, including their thoughts on mitigation efforts being dropped and the kind of long term issues they're seeing in patients. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 6:23:13 PM #31:	Let the unvaccinated deal with the consequences. I agree it sucks that they're still entitled to medical resources when they get a severe case of covid and wish they'd be sent home. But we saw this happen pre vaccination. It's the same group of people. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962847760] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Let the unvaccinated deal with the consequences. I agree it sucks that they're still entitled to medical resources when they get a severe case of covid and wish they'd be sent home. But we saw this happen pre vaccination. It's the same group of people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 6:26:23 PM #32:	Will_VIIII posted... Let the unvaccinated deal with the consequences. It isn't that simple. RobertDoback posted... -millions of children are still unvaccinated -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status -vaccine protection is waning -you still can catch and spread COVID despite being vaccinated -fully vaccinated deaths are actually trending up -mild cases still lead to brain damage -Omicron subvariants (yes, two) are emerging rapidly And again, it isn't the unvaccinated being punished--it's the health care workers. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962847841] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>Let the unvaccinated deal with the consequences.</quote> It isn't that simple. RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>-millions of children are still unvaccinated -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status -vaccine protection is waning -you still can catch and spread COVID despite being vaccinated -fully vaccinated deaths are actually trending up -mild cases still lead to brain damage -Omicron subvariants (yes, two) are emerging rapidly</quote> And again, it isn't the unvaccinated being punished--it's the health care workers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 6:33:29 PM #33:	It is that simple. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962848030] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>It is that simple. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 6:42:55 PM #34:	Will_VIIII posted... It is that simple. I mean you're blatantly wrong, but okay. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962848274] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>It is that simple.</quote> I mean you're blatantly wrong, but okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 6:44:04 PM #35:	Pre vaccinated 2020 shows this already --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962848308] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Pre vaccinated 2020 shows this already </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 6:46:04 PM #36:	Will_VIIII posted... Pre vaccinated 2020 shows this already What are you even trying to say and how does that negate anything I've said? --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962848362] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>Pre vaccinated 2020 shows this already</quote> What are you even trying to say and how does that negate anything I've said? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SocialistGamer 02/21/22 6:46:27 PM #37:	So theyll just end up mostly killing their own. --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 <cite>SocialistGamer posted [p:962848374] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>So theyll just end up mostly killing their own. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 6:47:52 PM #38:	RobertDoback posted... What are you even trying to say and how does that negate anything I've said? SocialistGamer posted... theyll just end up mostly killing their own. --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962848417] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>What are you even trying to say and how does that negate anything I've said?</quote> SocialistGamer posted... </cite> <quote>theyll just end up mostly killing their own.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 6:50:40 PM #39:	RobertDoback posted... -millions of children are still unvaccinated -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status -vaccine protection is waning -you still can catch and spread COVID despite being vaccinated -fully vaccinated deaths are actually trending up -mild cases still lead to brain damage -Omicron subvariants (yes, two) are emerging rapidly RobertDoback posted... You do realize what that means, right? We can all continue on with our lives as is, but with each wave, hospitilzations and deaths will further strain our already strained health systems. We cannot sustain like this long term. That is my point in all of this. What part of any of this is so hard for y'all to understand? --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962848506] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>-millions of children are still unvaccinated -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status -vaccine protection is waning -you still can catch and spread COVID despite being vaccinated -fully vaccinated deaths are actually trending up -mild cases still lead to brain damage -Omicron subvariants (yes, two) are emerging rapidly</quote> RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>You do realize what that means, right? We can all continue on with our lives as is, but with each wave, hospitilzations and deaths will further strain our already strained health systems. We cannot sustain like this long term. That is my point in all of this.</quote> What part of any of this is so hard for y'all to understand? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 6:52:20 PM #40:	Do you have a source for an estimated count of people who are immunocompromised to where they can't get the covid-19 vaccine? --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962848550] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Do you have a source for an estimated count of people who are immunocompromised to where they can't get the covid-19 vaccine? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 6:53:57 PM #41:	Will_VIIII posted... Do you have a source for an estimated count of people who are immunocompromised to where they can't get the covid-19 vaccine? Get this sealioning shit out of here, dude. RobertDoback posted... -millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status The bold meaning they are still at risk even if they are vaccinated. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962848596] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>Do you have a source for an estimated count of people who are immunocompromised to where they can't get the covid-19 vaccine?</quote> Get this sealioning shit out of here, dude. RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote>-millions of immunocompromised and disabled are still at risk, regardless of vaccine status</quote> The bold meaning they are still at risk even if they are vaccinated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 02/21/22 6:54:08 PM #42:	DowntownMrSmith posted... Thank goodness people who think like the TC are part of a rapidly declining minority. The mask diehards are so committed to signaling their virtue on this I even see them doing ridiculous things like riding a bike outside with a mask. People who care about others is a rapidly declining minority? If that is true, that is scary. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:962848601] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>DowntownMrSmith posted... </cite> <quote>Thank goodness people who think like the TC are part of a rapidly declining minority. The mask diehards are so committed to signaling their virtue on this I even see them doing ridiculous things like riding a bike outside with a mask.</quote>People who care about others is a rapidly declining minority? If that is true, that is scary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TwoDoorPC 02/21/22 6:56:27 PM #43:	MutantJohn posted... Covid is now just a part of life. No sense in closing down anymore yeah, just get used to being sick several times a year --- This post is brought to you by ExpressVPN <cite>TwoDoorPC posted [p:962848661] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Covid is now just a part of life. No sense in closing down anymore</quote> yeah, just get used to being sick several times a year </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Will_VIIII 02/21/22 6:56:53 PM #44:	RobertDoback posted... Get this sealioning shit out of here, dude Asking someone to provide a source for a claim is not sealioning --- "Do not speak to fools, for they will scorn your prudent words." - Proverbs 23:9. Antivaxxers are objectively stupid people. <cite>Will_VIIII posted [p:962848674] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>RobertDoback posted... </cite> <quote> Get this sealioning shit out of here, dude</quote>Asking someone to provide a source for a claim is not sealioning </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 8:14:41 PM #45:	creativerealms posted... People who care about others is a rapidly declining minority? If that is true, that is scary. Thank you for that, especially having the patience for him. I just blocked him after that post. Can't be bothered with these obvious accounts anymore. TwoDoorPC posted... yeah, just get used to being sick several times a year That's another thing--expecting to get this multiple times a year is scary, especially if it leads to early dementia like some experts have expressed worry over. https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.12558 https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/increased-dementia-risk-post-covid-19-infection-study-suggests/ Will_VIIII posted... Asking someone to provide a source for a claim is not sealioning It is when you're nitpicking a claim I didn't even make. --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962850758] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite> <quote>People who care about others is a rapidly declining minority? If that is true, that is scary.</quote> Thank you for that, especially having the patience for him. I just blocked him after that post. Can't be bothered with these obvious accounts anymore. TwoDoorPC posted... </cite> <quote>yeah, just get used to being sick several times a year</quote> That's another thing--expecting to get this multiple times a year is scary, especially if it leads to early dementia like some experts have expressed worry over. https://alz-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/alz.12558 https://www.alzheimersresearchuk.org/increased-dementia-risk-post-covid-19-infection-study-suggests/ Will_VIIII posted... </cite> <quote>Asking someone to provide a source for a claim is not sealioning</quote> It is when you're nitpicking a claim I didn't even make. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 02/21/22 8:25:50 PM #46:	If I gotta go to work in person, then I'm not limiting my social life. I was all for being a shut in when I was wfh, but I'm not about to limit socialization while still going to work in person. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:962851059] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>If I gotta go to work in person, then I'm not limiting my social life. I was all for being a shut in when I was wfh, but I'm not about to limit socialization while still going to work in person. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Teh_Dr_Phil 02/21/22 8:41:33 PM #47:	DowntownMrSmith posted... Thank goodness people who think like the TC are part of a rapidly declining minority. The mask diehards are so committed to signaling their virtue on this I even see them doing ridiculous things like riding a bike outside with a mask. Ah yes, thankfully. Im so thankful well never get out of this damn pandemic because the right is infested with anti-mask & anti-vax derps. --- Yep. <cite>Teh_Dr_Phil posted [p:962851450] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>DowntownMrSmith posted... </cite> <quote>Thank goodness people who think like the TC are part of a rapidly declining minority. The mask diehards are so committed to signaling their virtue on this I even see them doing ridiculous things like riding a bike outside with a mask.</quote> Ah yes, thankfully. Im so thankful well never get out of this damn pandemic because the right is infested with anti-mask & anti-vax derps. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 8:56:13 PM #48:	https://openletter.earth/open-letter-from-uk-scientists-and-medics-re-early-end-to-englands-isolation-rules-14a731a1 Dear Sir Chris and Sir Patrick, Re: Early End to Englands Isolation Rules As members of the UK's science and medical community, we are writing this open letter to express our concern about Government plans to end testing, surveillance surveys and legal isolation of COVID-19 cases. We ask you to clarify the scientific advice underpinning these policy decisions. We do not believe there is a solid scientific basis for the policy. It is almost certain to increase the circulation of the virus and remove the visibility of emerging variants of concern. SAGE 105 minutes noted that: "The emergence of new variants and a resultant wave of infections can occur very quickly, potentially within just several weeks. The ability to rapidly detect and characterise new variants and to scale up necessary responses (such as TTI and vaccinations) quickly will be very important. Considerations for future response preparedness and surveillance infrastructure should take this into account." 1 Further, SAGEs Viral Evolution Scenarios document, dated 10 February, noted: "higher global SARS-CoV-2 prevalence provides more opportunities for viral evolution, while new variants can drive higher prevalence". 2 We have no reason to assume that all future new variants will be mild. The SAGE document also noted that: "higher transmissibility does not necessarily mean lower severity or vice versa." 3 Finally, in their consensus statement of 2 February 2022, SAGE SPI-M warned of increased transmission if self-isolation and testing are removed: "Warwicks estimates are equivalent to there being the potential for transmission to increase by between around 25% to 80% if the population were to return to pre-pandemic behaviours and no mitigations." 4 We believe humanity is in a race against the virus. We believe the science strongly supports using vaccines combined with public health interventions to slow transmission and regain the upper hand on viral evolution. We must encourage vaccination in all demographics for which there is a medically approved vaccine and give a timely opportunity for vaccination. Some form of surveillance must be continued to ensure the situation is well understood and new variants of concern identified. Lack of testing is not only detrimental to controlling the spread of SARSCoV2 and detecting new variants, it also puts people who develop Long Covid at a great disadvantage by not having a confirmation of their infection, which is integral to the diagnosis, support and care they need to receive. For the 1 in 4 people in the UK who are clinically vulnerable, the current approach appears a perilous and politicised pandemic response. Continued and unopposed transmission is a recipe for further adaptation by the virus. Every strain of SARS-CoV-2 to date has failed to reach population saturation. Instead, each has been replaced by a new variant that is more transmissible, more immunity-escaping or both. This pattern will likely be repeated, and further reinfections will occur, with a continuing burden of disease and displacement in the healthcare system. We urge you to clarify the extent to which the planned policies are consistent with scientific advice and what specifically that scientific advice contained. We feel that transparency on such matters is an essential requirement of your roles as Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Officer, respectively. We look forward to your response, with thanks for your hard work throughout the pandemic. Yours sincerely, Signatories: Professor Anthony Costello, University College London Professor Trish Greenhalgh, University of Oxford Dr Rochelle Burgess, University College London Dr. Deepti Gurdasani, Queen Mary University of London Professor Christina Pagel, University College London Dr Stephen Griffin, University of Leeds Dr Kit Yates, University of Bath Dr Daniel Goyal, NHS Consultant Physician, Oban Dr David Tomlinson, Consultant Cardiologist and Electrophysiologist, University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust Professor Peter Boyle, University of Edinburgh Dr Nisreen Alwan, University of Southampton Dr Alison George, GP & GP in Emergency Medicine, Newcastle Upon Tyne Dr Sarah Todd, GP, North Derbyshire Dr Joe Pajak, FRSC CSci, NHS FT Governor Dr Lucy Williams MRCA, Associate Specialist Anaesthetist, Great Western Hospital Dr Katherine McConkey, GP, Cumbria Dr Ian Jackson, Clinical Lead, Vaccination Hub, York & Scarborough Teaching Hospitals NHSFT Dr Yvette Rean, GP in Kent Dr Linda Dykes, Consultant in Emergency & Interface Medicine/GP, Herefordshire Dr Kate Cushing, Newcastle upon Tyne. Professor Colin Davis, University of Bristol Dr Peter Dilworth, GP, Merseyside Professor (Emeritus) Raymond Agius, The University of Manchester Dr Simon Ashworth, Clinical Director Critical Care, Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust Anna Batchelor, Consultant ICM Newcastle upon Tyne, Clinical Lead for GIRFT --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962851835] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>https://openletter.earth/open-letter-from-uk-scientists-and-medics-re-early-end-to-englands-isolation-rules-14a731a1 Dear Sir Chris and Sir Patrick, Re: Early End to Englands Isolation Rules As members of the UK's science and medical community, we are writing this open letter to express our concern about Government plans to end testing, surveillance surveys and legal isolation of COVID-19 cases. We ask you to clarify the scientific advice underpinning these policy decisions. We do not believe there is a solid scientific basis for the policy. It is almost certain to increase the circulation of the virus and remove the visibility of emerging variants of concern. SAGE 105 minutes noted that: "The emergence of new variants and a resultant wave of infections can occur very quickly, potentially within just several weeks. The ability to rapidly detect and characterise new variants and to scale up necessary responses (such as TTI and vaccinations) quickly will be very important. Considerations for future response preparedness and surveillance infrastructure should take this into account." 1 Further, SAGEs Viral Evolution Scenarios document, dated 10 February, noted: "higher global SARS-CoV-2 prevalence provides more opportunities for viral evolution, while new variants can drive higher prevalence". 2 We have no reason to assume that all future new variants will be mild. The SAGE document also noted that: "higher transmissibility does not necessarily mean lower severity or vice versa." 3 Finally, in their consensus statement of 2 February 2022, SAGE SPI-M warned of increased transmission if self-isolation and testing are removed: "Warwicks estimates are equivalent to there being the potential for transmission to increase by between around 25% to 80% if the population were to return to pre-pandemic behaviours and no mitigations." 4 We believe humanity is in a race against the virus. We believe the science strongly supports using vaccines combined with public health interventions to slow transmission and regain the upper hand on viral evolution. We must encourage vaccination in all demographics for which there is a medically approved vaccine and give a timely opportunity for vaccination. Some form of surveillance must be continued to ensure the situation is well understood and new variants of concern identified. Lack of testing is not only detrimental to controlling the spread of SARSCoV2 and detecting new variants, it also puts people who develop Long Covid at a great disadvantage by not having a confirmation of their infection, which is integral to the diagnosis, support and care they need to receive. For the 1 in 4 people in the UK who are clinically vulnerable, the current approach appears a perilous and politicised pandemic response. Continued and unopposed transmission is a recipe for further adaptation by the virus. Every strain of SARS-CoV-2 to date has failed to reach population saturation. Instead, each has been replaced by a new variant that is more transmissible, more immunity-escaping or both. This pattern will likely be repeated, and further reinfections will occur, with a continuing burden of disease and displacement in the healthcare system. We urge you to clarify the extent to which the planned policies are consistent with scientific advice and what specifically that scientific advice contained. We feel that transparency on such matters is an essential requirement of your roles as Chief Medical Officer and Chief Scientific Officer, respectively. We look forward to your response, with thanks for your hard work throughout the pandemic. Yours sincerely, Signatories: Professor Anthony Costello, University College London Professor Trish Greenhalgh, University of Oxford Dr Rochelle Burgess, University College London Dr. Deepti Gurdasani, Queen Mary University of London Professor Christina Pagel, University College London Dr Stephen Griffin, University of Leeds Dr Kit Yates, University of Bath Dr Daniel Goyal, NHS Consultant Physician, Oban Dr David Tomlinson, Consultant Cardiologist and Electrophysiologist, University Hospitals Plymouth NHS Trust Professor Peter Boyle, University of Edinburgh Dr Nisreen Alwan, University of Southampton Dr Alison George, GP & GP in Emergency Medicine, Newcastle Upon Tyne Dr Sarah Todd, GP, North Derbyshire Dr Joe Pajak, FRSC CSci, NHS FT Governor Dr Lucy Williams MRCA, Associate Specialist Anaesthetist, Great Western Hospital Dr Katherine McConkey, GP, Cumbria Dr Ian Jackson, Clinical Lead, Vaccination Hub, York & Scarborough Teaching Hospitals NHSFT Dr Yvette Rean, GP in Kent Dr Linda Dykes, Consultant in Emergency & Interface Medicine/GP, Herefordshire Dr Kate Cushing, Newcastle upon Tyne. Professor Colin Davis, University of Bristol Dr Peter Dilworth, GP, Merseyside Professor (Emeritus) Raymond Agius, The University of Manchester Dr Simon Ashworth, Clinical Director Critical Care, Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust Anna Batchelor, Consultant ICM Newcastle upon Tyne, Clinical Lead for GIRFT </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RobertDoback 02/21/22 8:58:57 PM #49:	https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1495896052204982274?t=eVp7mxn84kuuTzhYTvKBqg&s=19 --- Don't lose your dinosaur. GregShmedley's alt. <cite>RobertDoback posted [p:962851896] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1495896052204982274?t=eVp7mxn84kuuTzhYTvKBqg&s=19 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 02/21/22 9:26:54 PM #50:	Stop trying to fear monger. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:962852632] in Reminder t... [t:79908657]...</cite> <quote>Stop trying to fear monger. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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