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Payzmaykr
02/22/22 9:40:23 PM
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/marijuana-testing-truck-drivers-becoming-150000188.html

The role of marijuana testing in employee screening has been under debate in recent years, especially as the labor shortage continues to place more power in the hands of workers. At the same time, marijuana use has become more accepted: Last year, a Gallup poll of consumer habits found that 49% of US adults have used the drug at least once. To date, 37 states have legalized the use of cannabis for medical purposes, while 18 have cleared the substance for recreational use.

But, in recent years, the trucking industry's drug policies have become even more stringent. Truck drivers are randomly drug tested on a quarterly basis, as well as in the event of an accident or traffic ticket, according to the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration. Drivers that test positive are immediately removed from driving commercial motor vehicles, per the FMCSA.
In 2020, the trucking industry implemented a law that required all truck drivers who had failed a drug test to be listed in a federal database so that other trucking companies would avoid hiring the drivers. Previously, drivers could theoretically move to a new company that would not have knowledge of the positive drug test.

The law has impacted nearly 110,000 truckers, about 56% of which were reported for marijuana use, according to government data from December 2021. These 60,000 drivers who tested positive for marijuana use in the past two years could help plug the shortage of about 80,000 truckers that the American Trucking Association has reported.

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sinners_demise
02/24/22 8:41:31 AM
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.how do you think all the shit gets to the grocery stores you shop at? I hope youre joking. Sure they can be assholes but theyre 100% necessary.
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Southernfatman
02/24/22 9:23:25 AM
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Dumbass boomer mentalities help screw things up again.

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Suolevram
02/24/22 9:26:53 AM
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Yeah. We hate delivered goods. Absolutely cannot stand going to the local grocery store and finding the things I want.

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bigblu89
02/24/22 9:36:13 AM
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I don't know how I feel about this.

On one hand, it's marijuana. If you don't understand how many of these truckers are using it for medicinal purposes and it is actually extremely helpful to many, you're never going to understand it, and you just have your head in the sand.

On the other hand, one would have to assume it was understood when you took the job that there would be drug testing, and while I don't think marijuana should be the drug they're testing for, you know what you signed up for when you took the job. Sort of "rules are rules, even the unfair ones".

Also, how was thins something their union hasn't been fighting to stop until just now?

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voldothegr8
02/24/22 9:39:21 AM
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Every company/entity should do what the NFL did and simply stop testing for it.

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WingsOfGood
02/24/22 9:41:34 AM
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Are trucking companies having record profits like all the other supply side companies?

If so, don't expect this to change.
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Giant_Aspirin
02/24/22 9:43:35 AM
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testing for weed is so fucking stupid. please get over it.

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Blade_Trinity
02/24/22 9:46:48 AM
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Junkies driving 40 odd tonnes while high, yeah, very fucking clever.

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Giant_Aspirin
02/24/22 9:47:20 AM
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Blade_Trinity posted...
Junkies driving 40 odd tonnes while high, yeah, very fucking clever.

are you ignorant, or are you just trolling?

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imagine being such a chicken shit that you hide your gamefaqs.gamespot.com trolling behind an alt

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Questionmarktarius
02/24/22 9:52:04 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
testing for weed is so fucking stupid. please get over it.
There's no "are you high right now?" test, and the puritanical suspicion that someone is getting away with something is still pervasive.
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Kuuko
02/24/22 9:53:58 AM
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My mother for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like to my mother in front of me. Probably never happen though you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someones face. Just my thought.What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I on the other hand will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.


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Giant_Aspirin
02/24/22 9:58:35 AM
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i'm not sure why everyone is jumping down that guy's throat over that post (#4). i got the impression he posted that in response to this topic not getting the posts/attention he thinks it deserves.

Questionmarktarius posted...
There's no "are you high right now?" test, and the puritanical suspicion that someone is getting away with something is still pervasive.

shrug. there are field sobriety tests that can gauge someone's level of impairment. but punishing someone for simply having THC metabolites in their body is beyond stupid. weed is the only drug you can get in trouble for using weeks after the fact.

meanwhile, compare the cognitive abilities of someone who smoked a J the night before to someone who drank a 12 pack. it's not even comparable.

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eston
02/24/22 9:59:21 AM
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To me it makes sense that they would be tested, but it makes zero sense to blacklist them if they fail. Just make them get a negative before they go back out on the road

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Giant_Aspirin
02/24/22 10:00:51 AM
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eston posted...
To me it makes sense that they would be tested,

why? testing "positive" does not mean you're high whatsoever. you can smoke a bowl and fail a drug test 2-3 days later. how does it make any sense to care what someone did days ago?

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TheOtherMike
02/24/22 10:34:03 AM
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I like how everyone read post 4 and flipped on you, but they somehow missed posts 2, 3, and 6 for the obvious context.
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Payzmaykr
02/24/22 3:38:30 PM
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I was surprised that not many people seemed interested in this, too.

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Flauros
02/24/22 3:40:40 PM
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If you know that there is going to be a drug test, how hard is it to just not do drugs so you get the job?

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Damn_Underscore
02/24/22 3:41:37 PM
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Flauros posted...
If you know that there is going to be a drug test, how hard is it to just not do drugs so you get the job?

Doesn't THC stay in your body for a long time, long after it actually affects you?

That is why this is BS

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Cocytus
02/24/22 3:49:56 PM
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Oh my God PLEASE get rid of these archaic marijuana gotchas.
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voldothegr8
02/24/22 4:31:01 PM
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Flauros posted...
If you know that there is going to be a drug test, how hard is it to just not do drugs so you get the job?

Did you not read the whole thing, truckers are subjected to randoms all the time. In the current climate it's either be a trucker or don't do weed at all, and it shouldn't fucking matter what people do with their time off.

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Fluttershy
02/24/22 4:31:40 PM
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in the current climate it's either be a trucker or don't do weed at all

what if there's emergency trucking to be done are they not on call sheesh

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NightingaleMD
02/24/22 4:33:16 PM
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Trucking has a lot of weird rules

They also can't take insulin

SO they all have bad diabeetus

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bigblu89
02/24/22 4:40:54 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Did you not read the whole thing, truckers are subjected to randoms all the time. In the current climate it's either be a trucker or don't do weed at all,

This really depends on where you live and work though, as some of the truckers are crossing multiple state lines where marijuana is still illegal.

For example, a trucking company based in Kansas has every right to test for marijuana, as it is still illegal to posses or use there.

and it shouldn't fucking matter what people do with their time off

Unless it effect their work performance, of course.

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MabusIncarnate
02/24/22 4:43:34 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Doesn't THC stay in your body for a long time, long after it actually affects you?

That is why this is BS
Over a month for some people.

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WaterLink
02/24/22 5:01:13 PM
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I thought they notoriously took amphetamines, though I guess they don't stay in your system as long so they may just not get caught for them as often.

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02/24/22 5:02:00 PM
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diabeetus

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NightingaleMD
02/24/22 5:03:13 PM
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That's what numerous truckers have told me. Apparently it's the risk of overdosing on it and passing out due to hypoglycemia.

I mean, there is always the risk of passing out because your blood glucose is 1,300 but it seems no one cares about that!

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Payzmaykr
02/24/22 5:36:18 PM
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WaterLink posted...
I thought they notoriously took amphetamines, though I guess they don't stay in your system as long so they may just not get caught for them as often.
Those clear out of your system fast. Long haul truckers especially like them because they can get jacked up on the way to their delivery and get home a few days later when its out of their system. In fact, most things seem to leave your system in a few days other than pot.

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Flauros
02/24/22 5:39:18 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Did you not read the whole thing, truckers are subjected to randoms all the time. In the current climate it's either be a trucker or don't do weed at all, and it shouldn't fucking matter what people do with their time off.
Yeah if there are random tests and they know there are going to be random tests, just stop doing drugs. It's not hard.

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TheOtherMike
02/24/22 5:48:59 PM
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Flauros posted...
Yeah if there are random tests and they know there are going to be random tests, just stop doing drugs. It's not hard.

Either way, the industry suffers by eliminating drivers for no good reason, leading to the current shortage. Maybe, just maybe, these policies require serious reevaluation.
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Payzmaykr
02/24/22 5:54:09 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Either way, the industry suffers by eliminating drivers for no good reason, leading to the current shortage. Maybe, just maybe, these policies require serious reevaluation.
Theyll probably start asking for polygraph tests to see if youve been cheating the system.

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Frolex
02/24/22 6:00:53 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...


In 2020, the trucking industry implemented a law that required all truck drivers who had failed a drug test to be listed in a federal database so that other trucking companies would avoid hiring the drivers

lmao dudes really thought a pandemic year was really the best time to do this

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Unsugarized_Foo
02/24/22 6:10:08 PM
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Are marijuana tests still BS and can flag if you're sober for weeks?

If you're high, that's different

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DarkChozoGhost
02/24/22 7:56:24 PM
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Flauros posted...
Yeah if there are random tests and they know there are going to be random tests, just stop doing drugs. It's not hard.
The point is companies should not be testing.

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