Board 8 > Hey the new Batman is out this weekend

(+) Yeah! (+)

Seems to be reviewing well

Also a reminder that it's been a decade since The Dark Knight Returns and 17 years since Batman Begins

And 33 years since the first Tim Burton Batman.

True but I was just 4 then and not cognizant of movie releases

But nolan movies still feels like they were just recently but in reality they were a long time ago

Is 10 years really a long time ago?

Its longer than the gap between Batman & Robin and Batman Begins! Similarly the gap between this film and the start of The Dark Knight Trilogy is longer than the gap between Batman Begins and Batman 1989.

So yeah its been long enough since a proper Batman film, its not a Spider-Man situation with excessive reboots.

Lightning Strikes posted...

So yeah its been long enough since a proper Batman film, its not a Spider-Man situation with excessive reboots.

Is 10 years considered a long time to reboot something now lol

Don't forget about DCEU Batman. Yes, it's been a long while (relatively speaking) since the last Batman movie but it hasn't been that long since Batman was in a movie.

Ugh cases are still too high for me to feel comfortable going to a theater (especially with the mask mandate gone here)

Maybe I can see it in like two months when the showings are almost empty...

Batman is rebooting after literally one film

I wish this was going to Max.

Havent seen much on this movie, but theres gotta be no chance its worse than WW84 at least. It could be 3 hours of Batman & Alfred watching a jar of peanut butter and be better than that movie was

Looking through the negative reviews there are and they all seem to boil down to "its too dark, we don't need dark superhero movies nowadays the world is too depressing as it is, should be more colorful and joyful"

Listen, I love Adam West as much as the next decent human being, but Batman is allowed to be dark and dreary.

Leonhart4 posted...

Batman is rebooting after literally one film

What film?

Lightning Strikes posted...

What film?

Justice League

Justice League is not a Batman film, and if that was the case, then it's rebooting after two Batman films, so either way he's wrong.

My favourite Batman franchise, Justice League.

I didn't watch them, but I thought Affleck was Batman in two movies

Though it is worth noting that Justice League had more Batman characters than Batman v Superman!

Edit: Affleck was also Batman in Suicide Squad.

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Looking through the negative reviews there are and they all seem to boil down to "its too dark, we don't need dark superhero movies nowadays the world is too depressing as it is, should be more colorful and joyful"

Listen, I love Adam West as much as the next decent human being, but Batman is allowed to be dark and dreary.

Fair, but you can't blame people for being tired of grimdark Batman. And honestly the Nolan Batman films aren't even as dark as they're often made out to be.

Oh I guess Batman vs. Superman isn't considered a Batman film

Batman is being recast after three films, but it was rebooted after one quasi-Batman movie

I like to think people just scrub Batman vs Superman out of their existence

where does Joker fit into this btw

It is kinda weird how they were so gung-ho about making their cinematic universe and seeded all these Batman characters in other movies but then made Joker, which was separate from all that, and now this, which is separate from all that.

Anyone remember J.K. Simmons as Commissioner Gordon? Oh well....

LinkMarioSamus posted...

Fair, but you can't blame people for being tired of grimdark Batman. And honestly the Nolan Batman films aren't even as dark as they're often made out to be.

This is such an asinine statement. The tone of the 80-year-run of Batman comics is always gothic in tone. Hence Gotham City. I do blame people for not realizing what the subgenre of comic is and expecting a narrative that isn't in keeping with the tone of the character. It's like complaining that a story with Plastic Man is a comedy or a story with the Guardians of the Galaxy is sci fi or complaining that a story with Barry Allen is boring. That's the genre, that's the tone.

Got tickets for Thursday imax. I'm hyped. They have some imax showings tonight but not able to go

scarletspeed7 posted...

or complaining that a story with Barry Allen is boring.

I resent this statement!

Lightning Strikes posted...

My favourite Batman franchise, Justice League.

DCAU fans be like

(it's me I'm DCAU fans)

scarletspeed7 posted...

This is such an asinine statement. The tone of the 80-year-run of Batman comics is always gothic in tone. Hence Gotham City. I do blame people for not realizing what the subgenre of comic is and expecting a narrative that isn't in keeping with the tone of the character. It's like complaining that a story with Plastic Man is a comedy or a story with the Guardians of the Galaxy is sci fi or complaining that a story with Barry Allen is boring. That's the genre, that's the tone.

While this is true I think you would be hard pressed to claim that the Burton and Shumaker films are "grimdark" despite being clearly gothic. Batman comics have a wide range of tone to play around with but the live action movies have been pretty self-serious since Nolan. I think that's more what thr complaint is actually about.

Like the obvious point of comparison here is how movies and public perception continuously nix the supporting cast to make Batman a brooding loner - this is just something that has not been true for decades in the comics. In the comics, Batman is the ultimate dad! He's a wife guy! He's adopted like a dozen troubled teens!

You can still be dark despite that and it works. If I'm hopeful for this movie it's because there's been a lot of focus on other characters in the promotional materials so they might have realized Batman needs a good supporting cast to shine.

I certainly agree that there is space for less brooding and less isolation, but I think darkness is inherent in the nature of Gotham City. It's that darkness that is almost a character in and of itself in Gotham, just like the promise of tomorrow turns Metropolis into the template of utopia and the grasp of history makes Opal City its own character as well. You don't have to betray the central crux of what Batman is to make that happen. But then you've got these armchair quarterbacks like LMS who think movies are just moving pieces on a set and fail to respect the purpose behind the stories and characters that caused success in the first place.

Admittedly, I tend to just get frustrated with the pseudocritical analysis that LMS trots out in lieu of, like, an actual thought.

I'm batman

HeroDelTiempo17 posted...

Like the obvious point of comparison here is how movies and public perception continuously nix the supporting cast to make Batman a brooding loner - this is just something that has not been true for decades in the comics. In the comics, Batman is the ultimate dad! He's a wife guy! He's adopted like a dozen troubled teens!

Yeah the family aspect has always been my favorite part of Batman comics. It perpetually disappoints me that they keep going the loner route in movies. Robin brings levity while also fitting in with the dark themes of Gotham.

Although I have long given up all hope of ever seeing a proper live action Cassandra Cain in my lifetime.

Was the teenage Harley Quinn sidekick who's primary narrative focus was she has to shit a diamond out not accurate enough for you?

Leonhart4 posted...

Oh I guess Batman vs. Superman isn't considered a Batman film

Batman is being recast after three films, but it was rebooted after one quasi-Batman movie

He's being "recast" back after this movie, Ben Affleck and Michael Keaton both play Batman in the upcoming Flash movie.

i think some of the '60s batman comics were really goofy (which was reflected in the TV show). most of the batman comics have been pretty "grimdark," though, sure.

scarletspeed7 posted...

I certainly agree that there is space for less brooding and less isolation, but I think darkness is inherent in the nature of Gotham City. It's that darkness that is almost a character in and of itself in Gotham, just like the promise of tomorrow turns Metropolis into the template of utopia and the grasp of history makes Opal City its own character as well. You don't have to betray the central crux of what Batman is to make that happen. But then you've got these armchair quarterbacks like LMS who think movies are just moving pieces on a set and fail to respect the purpose behind the stories and characters that caused success in the first place.

Admittedly, I tend to just get frustrated with the pseudocritical analysis that LMS trots out in lieu of, like, an actual thought.

Yeah honestly it's just that after watching the Schumacher films and Begins I basically joined the whole "please stop hyping up a new grimdark Batman product" train, especially given the increasing imitation of surface-level elements from the Nolan Batman films and me not having any problems with the Schumacher films being campy at all - I don't even think Forever was any less dark than the Burton films, just less blatantly grotesque.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2022-03-01/amc-theatres-batman-tickets-price

Man I'm just growing happier and happier with my decision to never return to the theaters

Xiahou Shake posted...

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2022-03-01/amc-theatres-batman-tickets-price

Man I'm just growing happier and happier with my decision to never return to the theaters

meanwhile I've been thoroughly enjoying my Regal pass

I don't go to AMC though

LinkMarioSamus posted...

I basically joined the whole "please stop hyping up a new grimdark Batman product" train

read as: "I watched some YouTube randos who had this opinion and decided to share it"

i was wondering who on youtube was saying "the new batman is too grimdark" because i've only seen hype and universal praise by people who've already seen the movie. but i probably don't watch the same obscure people LMS watches.

Really just Bob Chipman and his fans TBH.

The more grim dark the better

I want my Batman foaming at the mouth and destroying his Voicebox with every word he says

To think we were just one goddamn away from getting our live action All Star Batman and Robin. What a wasted opportunity.

So this is a 3 hour movie huh

About to see it now

3 hours, yeesh.

They're probably too scared to edit down after what happened with JL.

Could be justified though!

It was really good. It may have unseated Dark Knight