Current Events > Iowa Governor signs bill banning transgender girls and women from women's sports

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JakeFromm 03/03/22 3:53:19 PM #1:	https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084278181/transgender-girls-and-women-now-barred-from-female-sports-in-iowa Gov. Kim Reynolds has signed into law a bill (HF 2416) that bars transgender girls and women from competing in girls' and women's sports in Iowa. The ban takes effect immediately. The ban applies to K-12 schools and community colleges as well as colleges and universities that are part of the NCAA or NAIA. Reynolds signed the law in the Capitol rotunda surrounded by young women who support the measure. She repeated the claim that transgender girls hold an advantage over other female athletes. "It worries me that this bill is needed at all. It's hard to imagine how anyone who cares about the rights of women and girls could support anything less." Democrats and LGBTQ advocates say the law attacks a small, marginalized group of students over competitiveness claims that they say are exaggerated. Ten other states currently have transgender athlete bans in place. Many of those are caught up in ongoing legal challenges. --- Save 15% or more on car insurance by switching to <cite>JakeFromm posted [p:963139677] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2022/03/03/1084278181/transgender-girls-and-women-now-barred-from-female-sports-in-iowa <quote>Gov. Kim Reynolds has signed into law a bill (HF 2416) that bars transgender girls and women from competing in girls' and women's sports in Iowa. The ban takes effect immediately. The ban applies to K-12 schools and community colleges as well as colleges and universities that are part of the NCAA or NAIA. Reynolds signed the law in the Capitol rotunda surrounded by young women who support the measure. She repeated the claim that transgender girls hold an advantage over other female athletes. "It worries me that this bill is needed at all. It's hard to imagine how anyone who cares about the rights of women and girls could support anything less." Democrats and LGBTQ advocates say the law attacks a small, marginalized group of students over competitiveness claims that they say are exaggerated. Ten other states currently have transgender athlete bans in place. Many of those are caught up in ongoing legal challenges.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 03/03/22 3:55:36 PM #2:	Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:963139742] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kobe Bryant 03/03/22 3:57:06 PM #3:	Bill makes sense --- Kobe > LeBron. It's only internet stat nerds who think Lebron is better. Watch the games and stop calculating Lebron's PER with your wristwatch calculator. <cite>Kobe Bryant posted [p:963139775] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Bill makes sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Derwood 03/03/22 3:57:35 PM #4:	GOP loooves to hate trans people. <cite>Derwood posted [p:963139782] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>GOP loooves to hate trans people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 3:59:10 PM #5:	Why don't all these dumbfuck bigots move to a Middle East shithole instead of trying to delete LGBTQ+ people from existence with their bullshit religious beliefs influencing policy? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963139822] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Why don't all these dumbfuck bigots move to a Middle East shithole instead of trying to delete LGBTQ+ people from existence with their bullshit religious beliefs influencing policy? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EmbraceOfDeath 03/03/22 4:00:54 PM #6:	Good. Wish people would be rational enough to accept the fact that being born male gives one an unfair advantage in most sports, but won't happen here. --- No more shall man have wings to bear him to paradise. Henceforth, he shall walk. <cite>EmbraceOfDeath posted [p:963139866] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Good. Wish people would be rational enough to accept the fact that being born male gives one an unfair advantage in most sports, but won't happen here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 03/03/22 4:01:42 PM #7:	hockeybub89 posted... Why don't all these dumbfuck bigots move to a Middle East shithole instead of trying to delete LGBTQ+ people from existence with their bullshit religious beliefs influencing policy? I thought the middle east was very trans friendly. IIRC Iran has one of the biggest transgender populations out there (besides maybe seattle or san fran). They just dont like gays. --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:963139880] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't all these dumbfuck bigots move to a Middle East shithole instead of trying to delete LGBTQ+ people from existence with their bullshit religious beliefs influencing policy?</quote>I thought the middle east was very trans friendly. IIRC Iran has one of the biggest transgender populations out there (besides maybe seattle or san fran). They just dont like gays. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DD Divine 03/03/22 4:03:05 PM #8:	Derwood posted... GOP loooves to hate trans people. --- while driving yesterday I saw a banana peel in the road and I instinctively swerved to miss it, thanks a lot Mario Kart. <cite>DD Divine posted [p:963139914] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite> <quote>GOP loooves to hate trans people.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 4:03:07 PM #9:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Good. Wish people would be rational enough to accept the fact that being born male gives one an unfair advantage in most sports, but won't happen here. These are just a way of testing the waters for stricter LGBTQ+ restrictions. They care more about making sure we all fuck off and die than they do about fair play in amateur basketball. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963139915] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Good. Wish people would be rational enough to accept the fact that being born male gives one an unfair advantage in most sports, but won't happen here.</quote>These are just a way of testing the waters for stricter LGBTQ+ restrictions. They care more about making sure we all fuck off and die than they do about fair play in amateur basketball. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/03/22 4:03:30 PM #10:	Solar_Crimson posted... Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? "Oh, we forgot about those existing..... again. Where's the eraser?" --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:963139925] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports?</quote> "Oh, we forgot about those existing..... again. Where's the eraser?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 4:05:15 PM #11:	Flauros posted... I thought the middle east was very trans friendly. IIRC Iran has one of the biggest transgender populations out there (besides maybe seattle or san fran). They just dont like gays. The reason for their "trans" populations is their backward beliefs. They'd rather a man chop off his penis and live as a woman than be gay like he was born to be. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963139976] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>I thought the middle east was very trans friendly. IIRC Iran has one of the biggest transgender populations out there (besides maybe seattle or san fran). They just dont like gays.</quote>The reason for their "trans" populations is their backward beliefs. They'd rather a man chop off his penis and live as a woman than be gay like he was born to be. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SpiritSephiroth 03/03/22 4:11:04 PM #12:	hockeybub89 posted... Why don't all these dumbfuck bigots move to a Middle East shithole instead of trying to delete LGBTQ+ people from existence with their bullshit religious beliefs influencing policy? Want to tone it down with the racism? --- https://i.imgur.com/spfW7gv.jpg https://i.imgur.com/EAuZ5LW.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ZzXmr8X.jpg <cite>SpiritSephiroth posted [p:963140118] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Why don't all these dumbfuck bigots move to a Middle East shithole instead of trying to delete LGBTQ+ people from existence with their bullshit religious beliefs influencing policy?</quote> Want to tone it down with the racism? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Master_Bass 03/03/22 4:16:26 PM #14:	Flauros posted... I thought the middle east was very trans friendly. IIRC Iran has one of the biggest transgender populations out there (besides maybe seattle or san fran). They just dont like gays. I believe Iran pressures you to transition if you're gay, so yeah. That's not good within itself. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:963140266] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>I thought the middle east was very trans friendly. IIRC Iran has one of the biggest transgender populations out there (besides maybe seattle or san fran). They just dont like gays.</quote>I believe Iran pressures you to transition if you're gay, so yeah. That's not good within itself. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 03/03/22 4:17:59 PM #15:	Master_Bass posted... I believe Iran pressures you to transition if you're gay, so yeah. That's not good within itself. But they accept their transition and status as a woman. Thats big for trans right, isnt it? --- https://i.imgur.com/EX6Md7k.gif https://i.imgur.com/ygAzHKB.mp4 https://i.imgur.com/c84omp7.gif https://i.imgur.com/Hj9RrC6.mp4 <cite>Flauros posted [p:963140301] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Master_Bass posted... </cite> <quote>I believe Iran pressures you to transition if you're gay, so yeah. That's not good within itself.</quote>But they accept their transition and status as a woman. Thats big for trans right, isnt it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 03/03/22 4:19:49 PM #16:	JakeFromm posted... The ban applies to K-12 schools and community colleges as well as colleges and universities that are part of the NCAA or NAIA. Hasn't the NCAA already ruled that they can compete? It's not like Iowa can change the NCAA's rules. --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:963140346] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>JakeFromm posted... </cite> <quote>The ban applies to K-12 schools and community colleges as well as colleges and universities that are part of the NCAA or NAIA.</quote>Hasn't the NCAA already ruled that they can compete? It's not like Iowa can change the NCAA's rules. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 4:24:53 PM #17:	Flauros posted... But they accept their transition and status as a woman. Thats big for trans right, isnt it? It's "trans people" and no. They view it as a lifestyle choice and a sort of punishment for gay people rather than a way some people are just made. There is no lens with which you can view Iran as progressive on LGBTQ+ rights. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963140495] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>But they accept their transition and status as a woman. Thats big for trans right, isnt it?</quote>It's "trans people" and no. They view it as a lifestyle choice and a sort of punishment for gay people rather than a way some people are just made. There is no lens with which you can view Iran as progressive on LGBTQ+ rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMarishPie 03/03/22 4:26:22 PM #18:	Solar_Crimson posted... Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? "Haha oops." --- "Who dares, wins" 3DS FC: 1521 3697 7272 <cite>NightMarishPie posted [p:963140541] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports?</quote>"Haha oops." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Norman_Smiley 03/03/22 4:30:00 PM #19:	Were_Wyrm posted... Hasn't the NCAA already ruled that they can compete? It's not like Iowa can change the NCAA's rules. Laws trump organizational rules. --- http://i.imgur.com/BVBQC.jpg The big wiggle equals ratings. <cite>Norman_Smiley posted [p:963140656] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite> <quote>Hasn't the NCAA already ruled that they can compete? It's not like Iowa can change the NCAA's rules.</quote> Laws trump organizational rules. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PesticideDream 03/03/22 4:30:28 PM #20:	Good, as it should be. I feel like the only people that support trans athletes in women's sports are the nerds that call it "sportsball" and have their head in the sand when it comes to different physical abilities and builds. Probably the only time Democrats say fuck women and how they feel about trans athletes competing with them. <cite>PesticideDream posted [p:963140673] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Good, as it should be. I feel like the only people that support trans athletes in women's sports are the nerds that call it "sportsball" and have their head in the sand when it comes to different physical abilities and builds. Probably the only time Democrats say fuck women and how they feel about trans athletes competing with them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 03/03/22 4:32:10 PM #21:	Honestly I hate to say it but I kinda see their point. I hate the GOP/Republican party, Trumpism and people who are dicks to LGBT guys are assholes. That said this is about biology. Not gender as a social construct. Biological males are bigger, stronger, faster, have different bone density, different body chemicals, less pain receptors. Sure there are strong women and weak men but strong men are always stronger than strong women and weak women are always weaker than weak men. The gender of the athlete doesn't change that biological reality of their physical body Why do you think sports are segregated in the first place? The NFL, NBA, MLB etc all allow women to play. It's just the absolute best female NFL player in the world is worse than the absolute worst professional male NFL player sitting on a bench. I think people sometimes get ethics confused with physical reality. People who are opposed to transgenders in general or transgenders having jobs or raising kids are complete ass nuggets. But physical competitive sport? That's not a social construct, it's an objective biological reality. Maybe one day there will be treatments that negate this advantage, but right now in 2022, you cannot deny the advantage exists. I'm kinda against the Dems on this. Especially for contact sports like Football, Rugby, Judo, Wrestling etc. Solar_Crimson posted... what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? Anyone opposed to this is just a cretin. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:963140722] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Honestly I hate to say it but I kinda see their point. I hate the GOP/Republican party, Trumpism and people who are dicks to LGBT guys are assholes. That said this is about biology. Not gender as a social construct. Biological males are bigger, stronger, faster, have different bone density, different body chemicals, less pain receptors. Sure there are strong women and weak men but strong men are always stronger than strong women and weak women are always weaker than weak men. The gender of the athlete doesn't change that biological reality of their physical body Why do you think sports are segregated in the first place? The NFL, NBA, MLB etc all allow women to play. It's just the absolute best female NFL player in the world is worse than the absolute worst professional male NFL player sitting on a bench. I think people sometimes get ethics confused with physical reality. People who are opposed to transgenders in general or transgenders having jobs or raising kids are complete ass nuggets. But physical competitive sport? That's not a social construct, it's an objective biological reality. Maybe one day there will be treatments that negate this advantage, but right now in 2022, you cannot deny the advantage exists. I'm kinda against the Dems on this. Especially for contact sports like Football, Rugby, Judo, Wrestling etc. Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote> what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports?</quote>Anyone opposed to this is just a cretin. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ilishe 03/03/22 4:33:57 PM #22:	hockeybub89 posted... The reason for their "trans" populations is their backward beliefs. They'd rather a man chop off his penis and live as a woman than be gay like he was born to be. Woah there, boyo. Stop with the trans hatred. --- ~Phoenix Nine~ ~Victory needs no explanation; defeat allows none.~ <cite>Ilishe posted [p:963140780] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>The reason for their "trans" populations is their backward beliefs. They'd rather a man chop off his penis and live as a woman than be gay like he was born to be.</quote> Woah there, boyo. Stop with the trans hatred. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 03/03/22 4:46:01 PM #23:	Norman_Smiley posted... Laws trump organizational rules. And federal laws trump state laws, so what is Iowa going to do? --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:963141117] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Norman_Smiley posted... </cite> <quote>Laws trump organizational rules.</quote>And federal laws trump state laws, so what is Iowa going to do? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Norman_Smiley 03/03/22 4:53:12 PM #24:	Were_Wyrm posted... And federal laws trump state laws, so what is Iowa going to do? Whatever they want until there is a federal law on the matter. --- http://i.imgur.com/BVBQC.jpg The big wiggle equals ratings. <cite>Norman_Smiley posted [p:963141318] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite> <quote>And federal laws trump state laws, so what is Iowa going to do?</quote> Whatever they want until there is a federal law on the matter. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Were_Wyrm 03/03/22 4:56:28 PM #25:	Norman_Smiley posted... Whatever they want until there is a federal law on the matter. Good thing there is https://www.athleticbusiness.com/operations/legal/article/15161658/doe-transgender-athletes-protected-under-title-ix --- I was a God, Valeria. I found it...beneath me. - Dr. Doom https://i.imgur.com/0EJvC4l.jpg <cite>Were_Wyrm posted [p:963141411] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Norman_Smiley posted... </cite> <quote>Whatever they want until there is a federal law on the matter.</quote>Good thing there is https://www.athleticbusiness.com/operations/legal/article/15161658/doe-transgender-athletes-protected-under-title-ix </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Norman_Smiley 03/03/22 5:00:27 PM #26:	Were_Wyrm posted... Good thing there is https://www.athleticbusiness.com/operations/legal/article/15161658/doe-transgender-athletes-protected-under-title-ix Then it will require litigation. Who knows which way temporary injunctions will go. End of the day it will probably go to supreme court a few times, much like abortion laws conservative states will keep on passing laws hoping eventually one of them is upheld, then other states will write their laws similarly to that. --- http://i.imgur.com/BVBQC.jpg The big wiggle equals ratings. <cite>Norman_Smiley posted [p:963141545] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Were_Wyrm posted... </cite> <quote>Good thing there is https://www.athleticbusiness.com/operations/legal/article/15161658/doe-transgender-athletes-protected-under-title-ix</quote> Then it will require litigation. Who knows which way temporary injunctions will go. End of the day it will probably go to supreme court a few times, much like abortion laws conservative states will keep on passing laws hoping eventually one of them is upheld, then other states will write their laws similarly to that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Autocraticus 03/03/22 5:31:21 PM #27:	Just create an "Open" category. <cite>Autocraticus posted [p:963142428] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Just create an "Open" category. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 03/03/22 5:35:03 PM #28:	Solar_Crimson posted... Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? The point isn't to target all transpeople, it's to target those who hold a biological advantage over their gender group. That's why transboys/men aren't included in the bill. <cite>dioxxys posted [p:963142542] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports?</quote>The point isn't to target all transpeople, it's to target those who hold a biological advantage over their gender group. That's why transboys/men aren't included in the bill. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 03/03/22 6:26:20 PM #29:	Fuck anyone who supports bigoted bullshit like this. And especially the ones who do so claiming bullshit about advantages when they are neither trans nor qualified to speak on any sort of advantages in sports or medical aspects. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:963144080] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Fuck anyone who supports bigoted bullshit like this. And especially the ones who do so claiming bullshit about advantages when they are neither trans nor qualified to speak on any sort of advantages in sports or medical aspects. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 6:29:59 PM #30:	Ilishe posted... Woah there, boyo. Stop with the trans hatred. Oh shut the fuck up. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963144174] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Ilishe posted... </cite> <quote>Woah there, boyo. Stop with the trans hatred.</quote>Oh shut the fuck up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 03/03/22 6:30:37 PM #31:	Ainsley Erzen, a high school track star from Carlisle, has been an outspoken proponent of removing transgender girls from girls' sports. Speaking at the signing ceremony, Erzen said putting the new law into effect sends a message to female athletes. "The message that women are so much more than a hormone level, that the things girls love are worth protecting and their hard work and dedication is recognized and their dreams can become a reality," said Erzen, who holds a scholarship to run track at the University of Arkansas. Does a cis woman's opinion on this really not matter? Scholarships are tied to performance in athletics. I just don't get why there's not a separate league at this point, it's so contentious. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:963144189] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote><quote>Ainsley Erzen, a high school track star from Carlisle, has been an outspoken proponent of removing transgender girls from girls' sports. Speaking at the signing ceremony, Erzen said putting the new law into effect sends a message to female athletes. "The message that women are so much more than a hormone level, that the things girls love are worth protecting and their hard work and dedication is recognized and their dreams can become a reality," said Erzen, who holds a scholarship to run track at the University of Arkansas.</quote> Does a cis woman's opinion on this really not matter? Scholarships are tied to performance in athletics. I just don't get why there's not a separate league at this point, it's so contentious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shadow Don 03/03/22 6:32:31 PM #32:	EmbraceOfDeath posted... Good. Wish people would be rational enough to accept the fact that being born male gives one an unfair advantage in most sports, but won't happen here. Then where the fuck are they? Its been years and not one trans person has dominated in any sport ever. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo <cite>Shadow Don posted [p:963144247] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>EmbraceOfDeath posted... </cite> <quote>Good. Wish people would be rational enough to accept the fact that being born male gives one an unfair advantage in most sports, but won't happen here.</quote> Then where the fuck are they? Its been years and not one trans person has dominated in any sport ever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AirFresh 03/03/22 6:32:46 PM #33:	Seriously guys please vote this year. It will be so much worse if the GOP gets the majority. --- Not changing this signature until Austin Theory wins a championship. <cite>AirFresh posted [p:963144253] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Seriously guys please vote this year. It will be so much worse if the GOP gets the majority. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 6:35:26 PM #34:	MutantJohn posted... Does a cis woman's opinion on this really not matter? Scholarships are tied to performance in athletics. I just don't get why there's not a separate league at this point, it's so contentious. Trans only sports leagues would be unsustainable and only serve to justify the views of bigots, such as those in power in the Republican Party, that view LGBTQ+ as subhumans that deserve to die. Fucking over bigots and protecting the future of sexual minorities is more important than the occasional really dominant high school wrestler. It is ignorant to view these trans people sports arguments in a bubble. There is clearly a bigger agenda. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963144317] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Does a cis woman's opinion on this really not matter? Scholarships are tied to performance in athletics. I just don't get why there's not a separate league at this point, it's so contentious.</quote>Trans only sports leagues would be unsustainable and only serve to justify the views of bigots, such as those in power in the Republican Party, that view LGBTQ+ as subhumans that deserve to die. Fucking over bigots and protecting the future of sexual minorities is more important than the occasional really dominant high school wrestler. It is ignorant to view these trans people sports arguments in a bubble. There is clearly a bigger agenda. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Robot2600 03/03/22 6:36:23 PM #35:	Solar_Crimson posted... Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? women are already free to compete in men's sports. my highschool had a female kicker on the football team. I do NOT support this legislation. edit: trans men are not women, obviously! but these schools would not have a problem with anyone competing in men's sports was all I was saying. --- ( o _o) <cite>Robot2600 posted [p:963144344] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports?</quote> women are already free to compete in men's sports. my highschool had a female kicker on the football team. I do NOT support this legislation. edit: trans men are not women, obviously! but these schools would not have a problem with anyone competing in men's sports was all I was saying. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 03/03/22 6:36:35 PM #36:	MutantJohn posted... Does a cis woman's opinion on this really not matter? Scholarships are tied to performance in athletics. I just don't get why there's not a separate league at this point, it's so contentious. I mean. College shouldn't cost anything, scholarships shouldn't be necessary. So no, her thoughts mean less than the smallest mote of dust on the wind. I take that back. Rather, her thoughts are harmful and actively resulted in harming innocent trans girls who are more likely under present circumstances to be in need of financial benefits from scholarship opportunities, and as such Ainsley is a fucking monster who deserves nothing good in her life so long as she lives. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:963144353] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Does a cis woman's opinion on this really not matter? Scholarships are tied to performance in athletics. I just don't get why there's not a separate league at this point, it's so contentious.</quote>I mean. College shouldn't cost anything, scholarships shouldn't be necessary. So no, her thoughts mean less than the smallest mote of dust on the wind. I take that back. Rather, her thoughts are harmful and actively resulted in harming innocent trans girls who are more likely under present circumstances to be in need of financial benefits from scholarship opportunities, and as such Ainsley is a fucking monster who deserves nothing good in her life so long as she lives. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 03/03/22 6:38:01 PM #37:	Solar_Crimson posted... Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? No physical advantage going that direction, they're actually putting themselves at a big disadvantage. --- Oda break tracker 2022- 2 (1) \| THE Ohio State: 12-2 \| Las Vegas Raiders: 10-8 <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:963144394] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? </quote> No physical advantage going that direction, they're actually putting themselves at a big disadvantage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 03/03/22 6:38:15 PM #38:	https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20210715/do-trans-women-athletes-have-advantages This is an interesting read. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:963144396] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>https://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20210715/do-trans-women-athletes-have-advantages This is an interesting read. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 03/03/22 6:44:02 PM #39:	and as such Ainsley is a fucking monster who deserves nothing good in her life so long as she lives. Holy fuck --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:963144584] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote><quote>and as such Ainsley is a fucking monster who deserves nothing good in her life so long as she lives.</quote>Holy fuck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ghettoraider81 03/03/22 6:44:32 PM #40:	gunplagirl posted... Fuck anyone who supports bigoted bullshit like this. And especially the ones who do so claiming bullshit about advantages when they are neither trans nor qualified to speak on any sort of advantages in sports or medical aspects. Shut the fuck up. You need look no further than the trans UPenn swimmer that is smashing every record, held by olympians no less, when they were mediocre as a male. --- Win, lose, or tie Oakland Raiders til I die! WHY'S THE RUM GONE! S.M.O.K.E my anti sXe <cite>ghettoraider81 posted [p:963144598] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>Fuck anyone who supports bigoted bullshit like this. And especially the ones who do so claiming bullshit about advantages when they are neither trans nor qualified to speak on any sort of advantages in sports or medical aspects.</quote> Shut the fuck up. You need look no further than the trans UPenn swimmer that is smashing every record, held by olympians no less, when they were mediocre as a male. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 6:47:31 PM #41:	The easiest way to minimize the advantages of trans girls is to do the exact opposite of what Texas is doing and fully support determining trans kids as young as possible. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963144681] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>The easiest way to minimize the advantages of trans girls is to do the exact opposite of what Texas is doing and fully support determining trans kids as young as possible. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 6:49:22 PM #42:	ghettoraider81 posted... Shut the fuck up. You need look no further than the trans UPenn swimmer that is smashing every record, held by olympians no less, when they were mediocre as a male. Telling that you care more about college swimming records than the lives of innocent trans people and the government bent on eradicating them from society. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963144736] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>ghettoraider81 posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up. You need look no further than the trans UPenn swimmer that is smashing every record, held by olympians no less, when they were mediocre as a male.</quote>Telling that you care more about college swimming records than the lives of innocent trans people and the government bent on eradicating them from society. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 03/03/22 6:50:14 PM #43:	MutantJohn posted... Holy fuck She's worsening the lives of a disenfranchised population facing severe discrimination at all levels of life. ghettoraider81 posted... Shut the fuck up. You need look no further than the trans UPenn swimmer that is smashing every record, held by olympians no less, when they were mediocre as a male. You couldn't even refer to her with she/ her pronouns. Welcome to the block list. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:963144760] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Holy fuck</quote>She's worsening the lives of a disenfranchised population facing severe discrimination at all levels of life. ghettoraider81 posted... </cite> <quote>Shut the fuck up. You need look no further than the trans UPenn swimmer that is smashing every record, held by olympians no less, when they were mediocre as a male.</quote>You couldn't even refer to her with she/ her pronouns. Welcome to the block list. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 6:54:57 PM #44:	We have states encouraging citizens to rat out trans kids to the government so everyone that supports them can be thrown in prison and branded child abusers, effectively removing trans people from society if successful. But please tell us how the bigger issue is trans women hurting the sanctity of the WNBA. You won't have to even worry about that if the legislators here keep getting their way since all trans women will be suffering in the closet and likely killing themselves. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963144899] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>We have states encouraging citizens to rat out trans kids to the government so everyone that supports them can be thrown in prison and branded child abusers, effectively removing trans people from society if successful. But please tell us how the bigger issue is trans women hurting the sanctity of the WNBA. You won't have to even worry about that if the legislators here keep getting their way since all trans women will be suffering in the closet and likely killing themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 03/03/22 6:55:16 PM #45:	hockeybub89 posted... The easiest way to minimize the advantages of trans girls is to do the exact opposite of what Texas is doing and fully support determining trans kids as young as possible. Isn't this admitting that there are irreversible changes being done then? Edit: Damn, hockeybub really showing his true colors in this topic. Holy fuck. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:963144912] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>The easiest way to minimize the advantages of trans girls is to do the exact opposite of what Texas is doing and fully support determining trans kids as young as possible.</quote>Isn't this admitting that there are irreversible changes being done then? Edit: Damn, hockeybub really showing his true colors in this topic. Holy fuck. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 03/03/22 6:55:20 PM #46:	PesticideDream posted... Good, as it should be. I feel like the only people that support trans athletes in women's sports are the nerds that call it "sportsball" And the only people bitching about trans people in women's sports are the people who don't even watch Women's Sportsball games. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:963144916] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>PesticideDream posted... </cite> <quote>Good, as it should be. I feel like the only people that support trans athletes in women's sports are the nerds that call it "sportsball" </quote> And the only people bitching about trans people in women's sports are the people who don't even watch Women's Sportsball games. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 03/03/22 6:57:39 PM #47:	Solar_Crimson posted... Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports? Because there would be no advantage for someone born female playing in a sport against those born male. Where as someone born male playing against those born female will generally have a height, weight, bone density, and muscle mass advantage even taking female hormones. The opposite isn't true. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:963144992] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Not that I support this at all, but what about trans-boys and -men competing in men's sports?</quote> Because there would be no advantage for someone born female playing in a sport against those born male. Where as someone born male playing against those born female will generally have a height, weight, bone density, and muscle mass advantage even taking female hormones. The opposite isn't true. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 6:58:21 PM #48:	MutantJohn posted... Isn't this admitting that there are irreversible changes being done then? Edit: Damn, hockeybub really showing his true colors in this topic. Holy fuck. Puberty blockers aren't irreversible but making them go through the wrong puberty is. But good to know I'm the bad guy for caring more that the government wants to eliminate the LGBTQ+ community than their smokescreen of protecting sports records. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963145009] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote>Isn't this admitting that there are irreversible changes being done then? Edit: Damn, hockeybub really showing his true colors in this topic. Holy fuck.</quote>Puberty blockers aren't irreversible but making them go through the wrong puberty is. But good to know I'm the bad guy for caring more that the government wants to eliminate the LGBTQ+ community than their smokescreen of protecting sports records. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 03/03/22 7:00:03 PM #49:	voldothegr8 posted... No physical advantage going that direction, they're actually putting themselves at a big disadvantage. Shouldn't we ban trans boys from playing with cis boys then? They might get hurt. Doesn't the government want nothing but to protect the children? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:963145067] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>voldothegr8 posted... </cite> <quote>No physical advantage going that direction, they're actually putting themselves at a big disadvantage.</quote>Shouldn't we ban trans boys from playing with cis boys then? They might get hurt. Doesn't the government want nothing but to protect the children? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
baiken2 03/03/22 7:01:00 PM #50:	MutantJohn posted... Edit: Damn, hockeybub really showing his true colors in this topic. Holy fuck. That comment about the middle east should be moddable <cite>baiken2 posted [p:963145097] in Iowa Gover... [t:79926072]...</cite> <quote>MutantJohn posted... </cite> <quote> Edit: Damn, hockeybub really showing his true colors in this topic. Holy fuck.</quote>That comment about the middle east should be moddable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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