Poll of the Day > If countries are gonna have capital punishment, firing squad is most humane

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method of doing it.
Lethal injection has made prisoners suffer for hours because of botched attempts, some even going as far as jamming tons of injections in and prisoner still not dying.
Electric chair is probably better but still torture.
Even if the death penalty itself is considered inhumane, firing squad would at least be the most "humane" method. Change my mind

People survive shots to the head.

Veedrock- posted...

People survive shots to the head.

Not when a firing squad is unloading their entire clips.

I would want to go from a great height.

Ferarri619 posted...

Not when a firing squad is unloading their entire clips.

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Ferarri619 posted...

Not when a firing squad is unloading their entire clips.

Some of the people shooting are going to miss, others are potentially going to hit non-vital areas, leaving the convict to slowly bleed out rather than die quickly. It's not really a guaranteed instant-kill or painless way to die any more than other methods are.

(Not to mention the psychological issues involved with having a firing squad actively killing people. Which is why various solutions have been used in the past, like giving some of the shooters blanks, so they can potentially absolve their own guilt by assuming their bullet wasn't the one that killed them.)

If you're really looking for a humane execution method, might as well go back to the guillotine. It's literally why it was invented in the first place (even if it was later abused).



Ferarri619 posted...

method of doing it.
Lethal injection has made prisoners suffer for hours because of botched attempts, some even going as far as jamming tons of injections in and prisoner still not dying.

That's a problem with methodology, not the act itself. It wouldn't be that difficult at all to anesthetize someone so they just slowly go to sleep, then load them full of the killing chemicals. Then it wouldn't matter how much pain the injections cause or how long they take to work (or even if you miss the vein or cause an embolism), because they won't feel it.

For that matter, the same would apply for every other execution method. Knock someone out, then gas them. Or put them in a vacuum chamber so they suffocate. Or just put them on a pure nitrogen mask or in a nitrogen chamber (which functionally suffocates you, but without the sensation of suffocation because that doesn't come from the lack of oxygen as much as from the build up of carbon dioxide). If you're unconscious when the actual execution method kicks in, you're not really going to feel it.

The only problem there is the people who are allergic to anesthesia. But even then there are probably alternatives you can come up with to provide an alternative means of knocking someone out that doesn't trigger their allergy.

The most human method of death is a surgical severing of the whatever thingy in the back of your neck while under global anesthetic

Hanging can be when done properly.

Global anesthetic, and then use one of those knockers like they use on cows to instantly obliterate your brain

This was a stupid topic for me to open right now.

It's not about being humane to the victims, it's about making it easy for the executioners.

Hell, it's not even about making sure they execute the right people.

For those suggesting the guillotine, you should know that you remain conscious for at least 30 seconds after decapitation. You may even communicate by blinking after your head is severed. Theoretically, you might also be able to speak if someone managed to blow air into your windpipe. It's also possible to save your life if someone quickly reattaches your head to your body. It has actually been done with a dog before, although the experiment was to create a twoheaded dog, which was a success.

You might also want to put someone under global anesthesia before decapitation in order to avoid any potential suffering and dread. However, even such a procedure isn't perfect. There's always the risk of a methodological error that would only make things worse. There's also the risk that the victim is allergic to any of the chemicals injected in their body. And even if everything goes smoothly, you're still forcing the victim to feel dread during the time they're waiting for their execution.

There's no humane way to kill. The mere act of killing is the antithesis of humane. The death penalty is also much more expensive than life imprisonment. There's also the significant risk that an innocent person is wrongly convicted and sentenced to death. And let's not forget that racism ensures that black people are much more often sentenced to death than white people for the same crimes. It's also been proven that the death sentence doesn't reduce crime, so it's useless as a deterrent. How is the death sentence any different than murder?

Ferarri619 posted...

If countries are gonna have capital punishment

dont have this

Tutoria posted...

dont have this

This is really the easiest way to solve the issue. You can come up with all the fancy ideas you want to making it humane, but it all becomes a moot point if you just don't do it at all.

People in the UK have been begging for the DP for years, it'll never happen, for various reasons.

Is 100-ton squishing humane?

HelloItIsMe2022 posted...

People in the UK have been begging for the DP for years, it'll never happen, for various reasons.

Best thing I've read today.

Firing squads aren't humane for anybody, victim or perpetrator (unless the perp is a sociopath, at which point it's still not healthy even if they're enjoying it)

The most "humane" option for capital punishment would probably be carbon monoxide poisoning because it's quick and supposedly painless. Most people who die from it just fall asleep without ever realizing. However, poison gas has terrible optics (due to its association with with mass executions performed by a certain nation), so I'm not sure any country would be comfortable publicly using it (and the few that might are also ones indifferent towards peoples' suffering anyway)

Over-sedating somebody would also be relatively humane, although not as painless as monoxide poisoning. The *only* knock on CO is people would know it's happening (because it's announced as happening, since otherwise you wouldn't) and potentially panic.

Ferarri619 posted...

Lethal injection has made prisoners suffer for hours because of botched attempts, some even going as far as jamming tons of injections in and prisoner still not dying.

That's not a problem with lethal injection itself, it's a problem with countries denying access to the lethal injection drugs. Prior to that, you never saw long lethal injections and the victims didn't outwardly suffer (and, since they died sedated, you couldn't tell what pain they might've felt)

Ferarri619 posted...

Electric chair is probably better but still torture.

...the electric chair is far more prone to mishap than lethal injection with the right chemical.

Ferarri619 posted...

firing squad would at least be the most "humane" method. Change my mind

Firing squads are perhaps the least humane option and have the highest risk of something going wrong at first.

Ferarri619 posted...

Not when a firing squad is unloading their entire clips.

That's not how most firing squads work. Certainly not in capital punishment. iirc, traditionally only one or two people have live ammo, the rest have blanks, so nobody is really sure who killed the person.

ReturnOfFa posted...

Hanging can be when done properly.

Technically, even when done improperly it can still be painless, since going too long with the rope can lop off a person's head. It's only when too little rope is used that it's an issue.

Accrovideogames posted...

There's no humane way to kill.

Technically untrue.

i demand death by snu snu

Wanded posted...

i demand death by snu snu

I want to be eaten by a rainicorn.

I oppose the death penalty. That said, if people insist on having it, the obvious way to do it is to kill people in their sleep. We have drugs that render people unconscious through major surgery. I don't understand why they aren't used in executions.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Some of the people shooting are going to miss

Maybe if youre being executed in the age before barrel rifling.

I object.

While it may be the most 'humane', execution by cannon is far more awesome and should be done simply because of said epicness.

Unbridled9 posted...

I object.

While it may be the most 'humane', execution by cannon is far more awesome and should be done simply because of said epicness.

How about have the prisoner in a room with about five C4 going off?
Or if we wanna get real ridiculous, put a prisoner in a desert somewhere and use helicopters to bomb the shit out of it

Ferarri619 posted...

How about have the prisoner in a room with about five C4 going off?
Or if we wanna get real ridiculous, put a prisoner in a desert somewhere and use helicopters to bomb the shit out of it

Nah. They might survive the latter. The former would be overkill as well. You gotta balance the explosion with visibility.

Execution by nuclear strike.

Ferarri619 posted...

Not when a firing squad is unloading their entire clips.

they don't give everyone live rounds.

one person has live rounds, but they don't know which, so they can tell themselves they weren't the one who killed the prisoner

Execution by old age.

I like Japans method.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

they don't give everyone live rounds.

one person has live rounds, but they don't know which, so they can tell themselves they weren't the one who killed the prisoner

No, historically one person has a blank round. If only one person had live rounds then itd be pretty fucking obvious who pulled the trigger.

zebatov posted...

I like Japans method.

Execution by anime teen?

The humane answer is confinement in some kind of secure facility until natural ageing kills them.

Unbridled9 posted...

Execution by anime teen?

xD

Freezing in Carbonite

I can't post my response

Can not even edit it in.

BEERandWEED posted...

I can't post my response

Can not even edit it in.

Lol why not?

I can't post a number that's viable.

In golf, there are par 2's and par 3's.

We shouldn't be killing each other.

Joshs Name posted...

The humane answer is confinement in some kind of secure facility until natural ageing kills them.

very humane to care for murderers for what they did.

Krazy_Kirby posted...

very humane to care for murderers for what they did.

People are very generous when their hands are in other peoples pockets

Krazy_Kirby posted...

very humane to care for murderers for what they did.

You don't have to care about murderers to oppose the death penalty. You just have to think that we shouldn't use the death penalty when we have a system that regularly finds innocent people guilty.

What's weird is how cuz of arbitration someone on death row statistically lives longer than other life sentence prisoners

Lokarin posted...

What's weird is how cuz of arbitration someone on death row statistically lives longer than other life sentence prisoners

Sounds like u pulled this out ur ass

Gaawa_chan posted...

You don't have to care about murderers to oppose the death penalty. You just have to think that we shouldn't use the death penalty when we have a system that regularly finds innocent people guilty.

Innocent people die in wars. We should never go to war. People die in crashes all the time. We should ban cars.

Person106 posted...

Innocent people die in wars. We should never go to war.

I mean, countries shouldn't go to war...

Person106 posted...

People die in crashes all the time. We should ban cars.

I mean, people shouldn't be driving cars... it should be automated.

What about firing squid?

Person106 posted...

Innocent people die in wars. We should never go to war. People die in crashes all the time. We should ban cars.

Whataboutism, a logical fallacy that people with no arguments use.

Accrovideogames posted...

Whataboutism, a logical fallacy that people with no arguments use.

pointing out a fallacy in and of itself is fallacious unless you bring it back to the argument.

Lokarin posted...

pointing out a fallacy in and of itself is fallacious unless you bring it back to the argument.

No it's not. But since it doesn't hurt to comply, just read post #12 since I won't repeat myself.