Current Events > Is there really any reason the poor cannot attend college?

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AzNDarkSamurai
03/14/22 12:18:22 PM
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IIRC, theres plenty of scholarships, grants, and loans out there catered to the poor people to ensure a chance to go to college

It is the middle class that gets screwed the most when it comes to help for paying for college. There isnt much of any help for them.

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TheVipaGTS
03/14/22 12:19:36 PM
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Probably because most of them are busy working 2 or 3 jobs just to eat. Being able to sacrifice to attend college isnt exactly the easiest thing to do when youre living on paychecks that are below middle class.

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Slayerblade11
03/14/22 12:20:19 PM
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They don't have the time or the energy for school + working to eat and pay rent.
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GMAK2442
03/14/22 12:21:32 PM
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How they could pay for the tools?
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AzNDarkSamurai
03/14/22 12:22:34 PM
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GMAK2442 posted...
How they could pay for the tools?

isnt there financial assistance out there for those kind of things?

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EmbraceOfDeath
03/14/22 12:22:45 PM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
IIRC, theres plenty of scholarships, grants, and loans out there catered to the poor people to ensure a chance to go to college
Grants only cover the cost for the cheapest schools (community colleges). It takes a lot more for a university. Scholarships are limited, and loans have the same problem as for middle class, but they're even harder to deal with.

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Unknown5uspect
03/14/22 12:24:22 PM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
isnt there financial assistance out there for those kind of things?
That you have to be approved for, and typically aren't, yes.

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TheOtherMike
03/14/22 12:26:26 PM
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Flopic
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Hoodroar
03/14/22 12:30:20 PM
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Grants haven't kept up with costs, scholarships are limited and poor people don't often get the good educations and guidance need to access them, and taking out loans you have no hope of paying isn't particularly advised.

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COVxy
03/14/22 12:44:00 PM
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Lol.

I was told by social services that people like me shouldn't go to college, when I was trying to open my own case (to funnel benefits to my mother) after I aged out of my mother's case and her benefits plummeted as a result. Full time university doesn't count as employment.

Long story short I "volunteered" full time in order to keep the benefits in line, because I couldn't find a job that would give me a full time schedule and work around my university schedule. In other words, I was a slave to the state for a year, before I could make a real job happen.

So yeah, real obstacles exist beyond that of just "is tuition covered?".

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ExtremeLuchador
03/14/22 12:46:56 PM
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There's plenty of folks who worked 60+ hours per week, went to school full-time and sacrificed sleep and fun-times. They also only bought things they needed and not what they wanted. One of my relatives only had a mattress and a folding card table for meals/schoolwork in his apartment when he started out. Make sacrifices while you're young so the road is easier when you're older.

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VigorouslySwish
03/14/22 12:52:01 PM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
There's plenty of folks who worked 60+ hours per week, went to school full-time and sacrificed sleep and fun-times. They also only bought things they needed and not what they wanted. One of my relatives only had a mattress and a folding card table for meals/schoolwork in his apartment when he started out. Make sacrifices while you're young so the road is easier when you're older.

nah fuck that, live life when youre young and crack down in early-mid 30s

youre only young once

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TheOtherMike
03/14/22 12:54:31 PM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
There's plenty of folks who worked 60+ hours per week, went to school full-time and sacrificed sleep and fun-times. They also only bought things they needed and not what they wanted. One of my relatives only had a mattress and a folding card table for meals/schoolwork in his apartment when he started out. Make sacrifices while you're young so the road is easier when you're older.

You're incapable of posting anything that isn't complete garbage.
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AzNDarkSamurai
03/14/22 12:56:16 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
You're incapable of posting anything that isn't complete garbage.

tbh in some ways hes not wrong

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IMNOTRAGED
03/14/22 12:58:01 PM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
There's plenty of folks who worked 60+ hours per week, went to school full-time
No the fuck there aren't lmao

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Guerrilla Soldier
03/14/22 12:59:33 PM
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TheOtherMike
03/14/22 1:00:24 PM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
tbh in some ways hes not wrong

Nah, he's wrong. There is no "one size fits all" solution to poverty and education. "Work hard and sacrifice" is entirely tone-deaf when most people who are too poor to go to school already "work hard and sacrifice" just to keep the roof over their heads and food on their plates.

It also ignores people who have family obligations that keep them out of school, have learning disabilities, or any number of countless extraneous circumstances that ocurr in real life but get ignored in bootstrap fantasies.
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samurai bandit
03/14/22 1:01:11 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
You're incapable of posting anything that isn't complete garbage.

Most of the world is as he described. Not everyone has the privilege to even live in a place where unemployment benefits or grants are a thing. You fight or die.

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televigilante
03/14/22 1:02:56 PM
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He didn't even say 60. He said '60+'. Lol. That's the cherry on top.
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RchHomieQuanChi
03/14/22 1:03:52 PM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
There's plenty of folks who worked 60+ hours per week, went to school full-time and sacrificed sleep and fun-times. They also only bought things they needed and not what they wanted. One of my relatives only had a mattress and a folding card table for meals/schoolwork in his apartment when he started out. Make sacrifices while you're young so the road is easier when you're older.

There's also plenty of people that have done this and weren't able to make it through school.

Also lol @ sacrificing sleep being considered as valid advice

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--Zero-
03/14/22 1:08:52 PM
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Its hard as hell working full time while going to school and its not easy applying for enough grants and resources to help cover the costs. Its also daunting knowing you have to go through the waste of time brick walls known as Gen Ed courses lol.

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AzNDarkSamurai
03/14/22 1:15:53 PM
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--Zero- posted...
Its hard as hell working full time while going to school and its not easy applying for enough grants and resources to help cover the costs. Its also daunting knowing you have to go through the waste of time brick walls known as Gen Ed courses lol.

Man. Gen Ed courses are a waste of time in most cases. Its pretty clear that a lot of it is set up to make the universities more money

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ExtremeLuchador
03/14/22 2:11:09 PM
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Poor people have it just fine here. They have cable TV, telephones, internet, cars etc.

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Unknown5uspect
03/14/22 2:23:07 PM
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samurai bandit posted...
Most of the world is as he described. Not everyone has the privilege to even live in a place where unemployment benefits or grants are a thing. You fight or die.
No, you fight and die. There is no scenario where you don't die.

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AzNDarkSamurai
03/15/22 10:25:25 AM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
Poor people have it just fine here. They have cable TV, telephones, internet, cars etc.

Yup. Especially compared to a place like Philippines. Thats true poverty over there.

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AzNDarkSamurai
03/15/22 1:12:23 PM
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bump

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rexcrk
03/15/22 1:29:01 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
You're incapable of posting anything that isn't complete garbage.


Hah


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ExtremeLuchador
03/15/22 5:34:38 PM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
Yup. Especially compared to a place like Philippines. Thats true poverty over there.
People don't realize how good they have it here. They complain about being broke on an electronic device they don't even need.

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Solar_Crimson
03/15/22 5:36:50 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Probably because most of them are busy working 2 or 3 jobs just to eat. Being able to sacrifice to attend college isnt exactly the easiest thing to do when youre living on paychecks that are below middle class.

Slayerblade11 posted...
They don't have the time or the energy for school + working to eat and pay rent.


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Ruvan22
03/15/22 5:41:22 PM
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ExtremeLuchador posted...
People don't realize how good they have it here. They complain about being broke on an electronic device they don't even need.

Which electronic device is that?
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AzNDarkSamurai
03/15/22 6:19:43 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
Which electronic device is that?

Youd be surprised how many poor people have the latest and highest end iPhones

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MabusIncarnate
03/15/22 6:33:05 PM
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Military is always an option, with tons of jobs where you would never see combat. GI Bill paid for most of my college.

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WingsOfGood
03/15/22 6:33:36 PM
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most scholarships are not full ride and only a very few even get the ones that are not

my guess is your parents paid your way tc?
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hockeybub89
03/15/22 6:37:19 PM
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This topic is what happens when America teaches people that the poor are the most privileged.

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ultimate reaver
03/15/22 6:40:41 PM
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man shut up

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Slaya4
03/15/22 6:41:34 PM
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TheOtherMike posted...
Flopic
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Crazyman93
03/15/22 6:44:22 PM
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GMAK2442 posted...
How they could pay for the tools?
Just pirate the textbooks, the companies and schools should be ashamed of the cost of them. "Oh. McGraw Hill slightly moved diagram 37c on page 125 to the left by an amount no one will notice amd also the font is different. You can't use a used textbook and need to buy a new one for full price." Fuck. That.

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ExtremeLuchador
03/15/22 9:10:12 PM
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The pizza I got the other day was brought by a dude in a 2021 Hyundai Sonata.

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ExtremeLuchador
03/15/22 9:17:35 PM
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I know people making 80k without college. If you're willing to work hard and carry a toolbag in crappy weather you'll make bank.

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Axiom
03/15/22 9:19:21 PM
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I tagged Tc as trolls poor people cause he only makes topics like this

What a shit gimmick
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RobertDoback
03/15/22 9:20:29 PM
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Axiom posted...
I tagged Tc as trolls poor people cause he only makes topics like this

What a shit gimmick


Yup.

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Umbreon
03/15/22 9:23:12 PM
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TC, pretend you're a poor 18 year old.

Think of a number between 1 and 100.

If you guess right, you've found the thing you're really good at and can find a stable career in.

Each guess will require a minimum of a decade of your life btw, because college costs are so insane.

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Perascamin
03/15/22 9:24:00 PM
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The biggest limiting factor imo is energy investment. Most low wage workers will qualify for a full Pell Grant which will cover 90-100% of 2 year institutions. But it is very hard to work full time and be a full time student at the same time. You will have to sacrifice much of your social life

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Ruvan22
03/17/22 4:46:56 PM
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AzNDarkSamurai posted...
Youd be surprised how many poor people have the latest and highest end iPhones

Oh? How many of them?
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TheOtherMike
03/17/22 4:57:28 PM
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Having been poor, and having known many, many poor people...no poor person has "the latest and highest end iPhone." Hell, most middle-class people I know aren't wasteful enough to spend that kind of money on the newest phones. When I was poor I outright refused to buy a phone that cost more than $200, and even then there were only like 2 options in that price range. Even now, with a 6 figure household income, the husband and I still went with S20's when we switched carriers a few months ago. Ironically, literally the only people I know who keep up with the latest phones are the extended family Trumpers who basically inherited their business while simultaneously screeching about bootstraps, antifa, and BLM at every opportunity.
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