Current Events > Nintendo takes down scans of 1996 Japan-only Super Mario 64 strategy guide.

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https://kotaku.com/nintendo-takedown-legal-threat-1996-book-scans-super-ma-1848700781

This guide--which included cool 3D dioramas of each of the levels--was only released in Japan in 1996 and has not been available for sale through official means since then. But Nintendo still felt it within themselves to have it taken down from Internet Archive.

From a legal perspective I get it

From a fan perspective its douchey

Nintendo has always been utter shit when it comes to this stuff.

Not cool.

I think it's fair to criticize them for this but at the same time it's their stuff, they can do what they want with it

Fuck Nintendo

Here's some of the level dioramas from the guide:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/2/AAUsi-AADEIs.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/3/AAUsi-AADEIt.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/4/AAUsi-AADEIu.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/5/AAUsi-AADEIv.jpg

What the fuck Nintendo

How cool would it be if some former Nintendo employee still had all the dioramas

Here's a couple more I found. I can't find any more tho >_>

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/5/AAUsi-AADEI5.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/6/AAUsi-AADEI6.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/8/7/AAUsi-AADEI7.jpg

From a legal perspective they can go fuck themselves

SpiritSephiroth posted...

From a legal perspective they can go fuck themselves

This. I'm tired of people using the "they're within their legal rights" excuse for everything.

Fuck their legal rights. If they want people to pay for their products then they need to make them readily available on demand regardless of what it is people want to buy.

UnfairRepresent posted...

From a legal perspective I get it

Why, you think they're going to reprint it and sell tens of thousands more copies?

Can you imagine what those dioramas would sell for if they were still in good condition and went up for auction?

Those are really cool, and would have helped me so much as a kid.

Damn, YouTube guide dudes need to stop being lazy bastards and start breaking the camera free/modeling zones so we can actually see them.

IMO, it should be that if you haven't sold something in like 10 years then you lose the rights to it.

Nintendo is so douchey and petty with their stuff. No other company is like this, not even EA.

Lame as fuck. Really wish Nintendo would ease up on being an asshole

SpiritSephiroth posted...

From a legal perspective they can go fuck themselves

lol

Those look like hand made models, like train set landscapes. If they are someone/people put a lot of work into those.

Those dioramas are awesome! Shame on Nintendo to take that down. What profit are they losing by it being up? None. Japanese companies can be nuts when it comes to copyright.

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completely different situation. Those guys were selling faceplates without Sony's permission.

Southernfatman posted...

Those dioramas are awesome! Shame on Nintendo to take that down. What profit are they losing by it being up? None. Japanese companies can be nuts when it comes to copyright.

It's more that companies with a younger audience does this. Disney, Viacom, and Hasbro off the top of my head are well known for this as well. Disney is actually the reason how copyright laws are the state they're in.

Our hero Nintendo is now waging war on a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation of knowledge and human culture.

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Yes, but the people that uploaded this on the Internet Archive aren't making money off of this. Huge difference.

Nintendo is really crossing the line, it's just a strategy guide that isn't even in print. Stop attacking preservation of content, it leads to lost media.

WilliamPorygon posted...

Why, you think they're going to reprint it and sell tens of thousands more copies?

No.

That's why I said from a legal perspective.

They want to protect their brand and copyright and don't want to make exceptions.

Ever seen The Room? It used to be on Youtube for free. For years (I think a decade)

Then someone made a documentary on the Room which featured clips of the movie. Tommy Wiseu sued them for copyright violation since it showed clips from the movie and one of the biggest legal arguments against him was the fact it was on Youtube in its entirity for free for years and he didn't care.

He lost the case and had to pay out a ton of cash to the documentary makers.

Ever heard of Strife? The 1996 video game doom engine RPG?

The developers who made it got shut down and it floated around in limbo. It became one of the most popular abandonware games for a decade with people illegally downloading it for free

Then in 2014 it was re-released as a saleable product .... except the entire target audience already had the entire game for free.

I'm not denying from a fan perspective it's douchey

But from a legal perspective, a non-biased, cold, impartial legal team is not going to go "Well let's not care about our brand in this instance because we don't think it will matter." they will go "Let's nip this in the bud now incase it does matter later." the moment they hear about it.

And that's their jobs to do that.

Yep, Nintendo has full time lawyers working to protect their IP. Theyre going to go after this kind of stuff whenever they dont have any bigger fish to fry.

Nintendo really going full Disney

bump

@NeonOctopus appreciate your digging

Guide posted...

@NeonOctopus appreciate your digging

No prob!

Sega should have won in the end!

Sheiky-Baby posted...

Sega should have won in the end!

I thought they did?? Mario was created by Nintendo as a wholesome and friendly alternative to compete with the edgy and cool nature of Sega's Sonic the Hedgehog. The suits at Nintendo saw how popular Sonic was and decided to make a slower and less cool version for kids who were too intimidated by the fast paced gameplay of a Sonic game, or lacked the necessary platforming skills to play Sonic.

The Mario games were pretty good even if they were derivative from the Sonic franchise. Guess Mario was just never able to catch the limelight like Sonic and was doomed to remain #2 forever stuck in Sonic's shadow.