Current Events > As a pick up artist, this is my date template

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I've been experimenting with various factors, this is the one that seems to work best

I invite a girl for happy hour at a Thai restaurant. Just exotic enough to be enticing and different, not enough to be weird

But since I live downtown, I tell her to park outside my luxury condo since it'll be easier to find parking and meet me and then we can walk over to the thai restaurant together (it's 2 blocks away)

Once they arrive, ill chat with her a minute outside and tell her I want to make iced tea for later and to come inside

99% of the time girls agree to this. It makes them comfortable with me and hanging out my place early. I have them pick the flavor for the iced tea. Then while the water is boiling, I ask them if they want to start with a drink here.

This is more of a 75/25 split with girls. I'm fine either way. I stay home and drink with the girl, talking while the water boils. If we finish the first drink and she wants another ill give her another and work from there...a few dates things have gone so well we never even end up leaving the luxury condo

But generally, after 1 drink, ill put the iced tea in the freezer so it'll be cold by the time we come back (so I'm already setting up coming back home together) and then we walk to the restaurant.

Happy hour is good, because you can splurge a bit without feeling as guilty. Get the drinks and food flowing. Nothing is too heavy so neither of us feels less sexy after. Honestly, I've just started paying for dates but if a girl insists on paying or splitting I just let her. None of it is that expensive due to happy hour and I can afford it. A typical date is only $60 after tip.

The restaurant is where we spend the most time.

Then I feel it out some more. If I feels she's ready I'll just take her back home for the iced tea (I also offer to add alcohol to it, grey goose is my favorite). If she's not quite ready I take her to the bar/wine bar next door. Rinse and repeat, ill take her to another place after that if I think she needs more time and familiarity.

But I usually try not to go more than 2 bars on top of the happy hour...at some point you're just stringing it out too long. I'd rather just take her home for the iced tea and try to work it from there (and of course letting her leave if she isn't feeling it)

So we'll get home, I'll have her pick a song to play us and I'll pour us drinks (alcohol optional) and keep talking

Eventually that leads to cuddling, then kissing, then you get the idea

Originally posted in 2021, updated to reflect my luxury condo
@bsp77

You forgot showing off your 100 omega watches.

Strider102 posted...

You forgot showing off your 100 omega watches.

honestly i rarely ever show my watches to girls. it gets a bit gaudy to the point i worry girls will feel like i'm showing off (my collection is about 17k now). not to mention on the off chance a girl feels like swiping one (hasn't been an issue lately but i was a much worse judge of character when i was younger). i usually stash it in a drawer, if a girl has a legit interest in my watches i'll show it to her but i'll generally downplay/gloss over them and focus on the engineering rather than cost/prestige

Stating "luxury condo" multiple times makes it hard to pay attention to anything else.

But I could see how this would work in general. Not sure I believe the stats (like that ridiculous 99%) or that you have anything to do with this template, but I could see it working.

I also think that there is some useful information for guys in this regardless of whether this has anything to do with you or not.

Too much effort tbh who even remembers all that. >_>

I feel like there's a lot of emphasis on iced tea.

Lol @ updated to reflect my luxury condo

It's all this guy talks about. And his watches.

Who cares.

bsp77 posted...

Stating "luxury condo" multiple times makes it hard to pay attention to anything else.

Yup. Same.

And was gonna ask TC if he says luxury this many times in real life or is that just his way to try to brag here?

bsp77 posted...

Stating "luxury condo" multiple times makes it hard to pay attention to anything else.

But I could see how this would work in general. Not sure I believe the stats (like that ridiculous 99%) or that you have anything to do with this template, but I could see it working.

I also think that there is some useful information for guys in this regardless of whether this has anything to do with you or not.

even crazier, the 99% stat was at my old apartment which isn't nearly as nice as my luxury condo. at my luxury condo, every single girl wants to see inside (in my area, living in this building is a major status symbol)

only 1 or 2 extremely guarded girls (one who wouldn't even hug me at the start of the date) refused to come in. the other one was from some small town in minnesota or something. that's all i remember that refused. the point is to build comfort quickly. once the girl has been inside and not been murdered, she feels way more comfortable coming back after the date

Hoodroar posted...

Too much effort tbh who even remembers all that. >_>

LMAO, this is like the simplest thing i remember as a pick up artist...you should see how complicated it really gets

this isn't that hard:
-meet outside my building
-drinks inside
-go happy hour
-optional: additional bar
-go back to my place for iced tea/drinks
-bang, if possible

spanky1 posted...

I feel like there's a lot of emphasis on iced tea.

sometimes i'll do hot tea, but that's more of a going home from the bars/nightclubs kind of thing

gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Yup. Same.

And was gonna ask TC if he says luxury this many times in real life or is that just his way to try to brag here?

lol it's mostly a joke at this point. i started out by posting "condo" and people here made fun of me for not being able to afford a house. so i started specifying "luxury condo" to differentiate, as this building is where NBA players live. it's super swanky and costs more than 90% of homes in the suburbs here. people got so annoyed i just kept it going as a preemptive measure so people couldn't say i live where divorced dads do again

for the record, every listing on real estate websites for this building does list the units as a "luxury condo". in real life, i just call it "the new loft"

I don't want to argue with you in 2 threads, but you aren't in MN, are you?

bsp77 posted...

I don't want to argue with you in 2 threads, but you aren't in MN, are you?

i am in CA

How are you still miserable if you socialize with all these women

No_U_L7 posted...

i am in CA

Damn. You mentioned rural MN for one date.

Too bad, we were going to meet up for proof :)

MedeaLysistrata posted...

How are you still miserable if you socialize with all these women

i've made multiple topics about this. i have issues with life as a concept. working to live, racism, randomness of life, and futility of life where you just die and nothing you do ever actually matters/mattered

bsp77 posted...

Damn. You mentioned rural MN for one date.

Too bad, we were going to meet up for proof :)

the girl was from there, she moved to CA for a corporate job

D: Demonstrate value

E: Engage physically

No_U_L7 posted...

i've made multiple topics about this. i have issues with life as a concept. working to live, racism, randomness of life, and futility of life where you just die and nothing you do ever actually matters/mattered

Those are booster seat problems my friend, some of us are literally maidenless (it's an Elden Ring meme)

HovaRex posted...

D: Demonstrate value

E: Engage physically

lmao i still fine this hilarious

it's entirely wrong

but also not entirely entirely wrong...

if you think about it, value is extremely important when it comes to dating. no girl has ever dated a guy she didn't find valuable. it's just what value is and how it is properly conveyed that is incorrect

i spent last weekend coaching a friend with girls, he is awful at conveying any value and everything he says comes from a place of neediness. i made him watch me with girls and how i conveyed value, it blew his mind lol. especially when i flipped a girl in one sentence who wouldn't give him the time of day

C, final answer

MedeaLysistrata posted...

Those are booster seat problems my friend, some of us are literally maidenless (it's an Elden Ring meme)

that's another issue, there's just so many struggles in the world. but that doesn't diminish my issues or problems as any less real. yes i have a good job and am good with girls. doesn't mean i'm not allowed to have problems too, and my problems are not devalued by what i do have. if that were true, only starving kids in africa would be allowed to express any pain

-I start with the iced tea
-Then take her someplace classy like a Long John Silvers. If she rings that bell on the way out, she's almost definitely gonna ring my bell later.
-After that, show her how sophisticated you are by taking her to see some close up magic. Generally, they're the opening act. So you've got plenty of time left in the evening to bring her back for more iced tea.
-Once she's there you've got plenty of time to seal the deal and kick her out so that you can watch Jeopardy in peace. Women hate Jeopardy since Akex Trebek left anyway. So she won't even try to stay.

Jiek_Fafn posted...

-I start with the iced tea
-Then take her someplace classy like a Long John Silvers. If she rings that bell on the way out, she's almost definitely gonna ring my bell later.
-After that, show her how sophisticated you are by taking her to see some close up magic. Generally, they're the opening act. So you've got plenty of time left in the evening to bring her back for more iced tea.
-Once she's there you've got plenty of time to seal the deal and kick her out so that you watch Jeopardy in peace. Women hate Jeopardy since Akex Trebek left anyway. So she won't even try to stay.

wat

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No_U_L7 posted...

that's another issue, there's just so many struggles in the world. but that doesn't diminish my issues or problems as any less real. yes i have a good job and am good with girls. doesn't mean i'm not allowed to have problems too, and my problems are not devalued by what i do have. if that were true, only starving kids in africa would be allowed to express any pain

I'm not minimizing your struggle, but don't you forget about that stuff when you're with a woman?

MedeaLysistrata posted...

I'm not minimizing your struggle, but don't you forget about that stuff when you're with a woman?

that's like asking if struggles go away when you watch a movie...yes, but it's temporary. you can't use external distractions to solve internal issues

Does this not feel sociopathic to anyone else?

Ar0ge posted...

Lol @ updated to reflect my luxury condo

It's all this guy talks about. And his watches.

Who cares.

Stop being a jealous Nancy.

This mans living space obviously contains many leather bound books and smells of rich mahogany.

No_U_L7 posted...

that's like asking if struggles go away when you watch a movie...yes, but it's temporary. you can't use external distractions to solve internal issues

Your life goal should be to solve these issues?

itachi15243 posted...

Does this not feel sociopathic to anyone else?

Only if promising a relationship and then ghosting. If everyone knows what it is, it's fine.

itachi15243 posted...

Does this not feel sociopathic to anyone else?

no, it's an understanding of attraction and communication. most of the times people have sex on the first date, it's because they have some/most of these factors in play (good logistics, seeding, etc). just because i'm aware of it doesn't make it sociopathic, otherwise you just default into ignorance being bliss. can't punish me for being smart. as long as i'm not doing it in a manipulative, disrespectful or forceful way, i am allowed to ask for what i want

Are you interested in long term relationships or are you happier with the chase/short term encounters?

Harpie posted...

Are you interested in long term relationships or are you happier with the chase/short term encounters?

for some background, i didn't grow up in a home where relationships were common, my parents never went on a date before getting married and at age 35 they still tell me i'm too young to date

so growing up, it isn't something i really sought out simply because it wasn't a foundational aspect of my life

as i grew older and started dating (and getting into the pick up scene), i did a ton of observation that really opened my eyes. i see why people get together, but more eye opening why people break up or don't break up when they should

this has soured my views on relationships. combined with the ability to consistently get new girls in my life, this has made me extremely picky and hesitant to be in a relationship.

but to answer your question, yes i open to it, albeit picky and the girl will really have to convince me

of the last 4 girls i dated, i would have considered being exclusive with all of them and all 4 of them were the ones to end things with me