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For example, even if my brother were convicted of the most inhumane crimes possible, I'd still love him because he is my brother. If he were a convicted cannibal, I don't think I'd care to have dinner with him, but I'd love him just the same. I think that a lot of the time, family members continue to love people who have done horrible things, but they aren't too vocal about it because it isn't socially acceptable.

What do you think? Is this stance naive? I don't actually have any relatives who have been convicted of serious crimes, and I will admit that I have cousins and uncles I've never met, so maybe I don't love every single member of my family.

I think you mean "unconditional."

But no, I don't. I think it's an inherently toxic concept.

Nope. You see people on this very websight that blindly defends each other.

I think it's fine to still love someone but not support their actions. One kind of love is believing they should also accept the consequences of their actions.

I do believe in unconditional love. Because there's people Id die for. If it was conditional, I doubt Id be willing to give up my life. Because there's no way I could benefit from it

I do, in the sense that there is an inherent biological love a lot of mothers have for their offspring. My brother is a psychopath, but my mom still defends him despite having no actual reason for it. This is true for many unrepentant prisoners, as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2c3g6tTYoxM

Not really. If someone who should love you unconditionally continually undermines you over the years, the resentment you have for them will build. Eventually you will realize you hate them.

If I found out my brother was a homicidal cannibal I'd be too disgusted to have any positive feelings for him.

"believe in" as think it's 'right'? Or that it exists? Because it definitely exists.

All love is conditional.

People seem to be under the impression you can't layer logic overtop of unconditional love and you're forced to stay in abusive relationships or you'll use it as a form of abuse yourself. That's not it fam. That's just hella sad >_>.

It's more so that when you're using logic, you feel a certain type of way because the unconditional love under it. You don't have to become a slave to the unconditional love

Whoops! Yeah, the topic title has a typo in it. Sorry about that.

Every relationship has a breaking point.

Raikuro posted...

Every relationship has a breaking point.

Unconditional love doesn't imply both parties are perfect at relationships. Relationships are too complex for just unconditional love to carry all the weight. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You can love someone while not agreeing with them on everything all the time. Unconditional love will make you try to find the right type of relationship for that person. Conditional love is when you want someone to play the part you want them to and if they don't you love them less.

No. It all depends on what they did. Normally I am a very loving and cool person. However if you try to f*** me or someone I care about youre out.

Shoutouts to my grandparents. I cant go into detail but one of them deliberately attempted to destroy my parents marriage.

They failed and got exposed. They're out. Our relationship is over and that is how it will remain until the day I die. Even if my parents one day forgive them I will not.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I do believe in unconditional love. Because there's people Id die for. If it was conditional, I doubt Id be willing to give up my life. Because there's no way I could benefit from it

Yes there is, you would be immortalized in their memory, the person you saved would tell everyone about you. It may not be like a conscious thought where youre like, this person will be my biggest fan forever, but it would certainly be a boon regardless of motivation lol. Hopefully no one needs you to die for them tho so you can just live happily together !

there isn't a single thing in this world my kids could do that would make me not love them.
imo when loving someone it isn't necessary to excuse their shitty actions or defend them when they're wrong

DespondentDeity posted...

Yes there is, you would be immortalized in their memory, the person you saved would tell everyone about you. It may not be like a conscious thought where youre like, this person will be my biggest fan forever, but it would certainly be a boon regardless of motivation lol. Hopefully no one needs you to die for them tho so you can just live happily together !

Eh. You're assuming I care about all that stuff. I think any reputation might as well die with you. It's not like I get to be around and see or experience it anyway. To me, all that stuff isn't relevant. You can assume I am just not self aware, but all my actions pretty much support me not caring how Im remembered to that degree. I only care about not being seen as evil. Which, wouldn't happen regardless of if I died for someone or not. Id argue, not saving the person and being there to support their family would be just as beneficial for a legacy too. And it doesn't stop you from continuing to build more legacy.

I dunno. I personally don't feel like that's it. It's not that I'm not scared of death either. I purposely don't think about it so it wouldn't have time to stop me in the moment. You just block out the thought process of what exactly you're sacrificing lol. So, maybe Im just overriding normal human behavior through controlled absent mindedness