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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 10:33:01 AM
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dps dies - everyone universally acknowledges its their own fault

other healer dies - they should have healed themselves

you die - its the tanks fault

the tanks die - its the other healers fault, or, if you type wtf tank before the tank types wtf healer, its the tanks fault

theres no scenario where youre ever at fault for a wipe and can just chill out a bit and play whack-a-mole and maybe get to be the saviour if you save the group from the wipe in which case all the glory goes to you and not the other healer
or better yet, not heal the people who annoy you and let them die
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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 10:35:17 AM
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And by ate, I mean they are what they eat

i meant to type are
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InTheEyesOfFire
05/16/22 10:35:31 AM
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In my current dnd game Im a Dragonborn cleric, who is really picky about who he heals but has no qualms burning you alive with acid breath.

I think Im pissing my dm off a bit cause Ill cast sanctuary and bless the others, meanwhile Im practically invincible unless the mobs have good rolls.

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Kim_Seong-a
05/16/22 10:37:52 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
theres no scenario where youre ever at fault for a wipe

Lol no. Healers get shit on all the time.

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Eclixor
05/16/22 10:39:00 AM
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It's the exact opposite. It's always the healers fault.
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TheChariot4
05/16/22 10:40:23 AM
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Yes. They were hungry.
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Robot2600
05/16/22 10:40:26 AM
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"res me."
"can i get a heal"
"hey sage can I get a heal"
"res meeeee"

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averagejoel
05/16/22 10:43:06 AM
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InTheEyesOfFire posted...
In my current dnd game Im a Dragonborn cleric, who is really picky about who he heals but has no qualms burning you alive with acid breath.

I think Im pissing my dm off a bit cause Ill cast sanctuary and bless the others, meanwhile Im practically invincible unless the mobs have good rolls.
sanctuary and bless are good spells. healing in D&D (at least in 5e) is generally not very good

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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 10:43:13 AM
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Robot2600 posted...
"res me."
"can i get a heal"
"hey sage can I get a heal"
"res meeeee"
Bugs bunny no
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MarthGoomba
05/16/22 10:44:01 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
or better yet, not heal the people who annoy you and let them die
Healers that do this need to stop playing

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InTheEyesOfFire
05/16/22 10:44:25 AM
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averagejoel posted...
sanctuary and bless are good spells. healing in D&D (at least in 5e) is generally not very good

Ive noticed. This is my first ever magic character, and I decided healer lol. I do plan to do necromancer related stuff, which was the draw.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 10:44:25 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
Healers that do this need to stop playing
Nah
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MarthGoomba
05/16/22 10:46:05 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Nah
They're a disgrace to the whole concept of being a healer

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s0nicfan
05/16/22 10:46:06 AM
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I'm personally a huge fan of healers because I like really dynamic roles where you're not just following some kind of move flowchart but actively reacting to what's going on.

They also almost always have instant queues in matchmaking because most people don't want to play healer.

That being said, healers are near universally blamed when something goes wrong so you might want to adjust your expectations on that one.

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Heartomaton
05/16/22 10:50:32 AM
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One of my guild's Shaman, who we all know as Day, has legitimately the best healing skills I've ever seen. WoW came out when he was like 5 years old, but he heals like he's a 30+ no-lifer. It's honestly amazing.

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Evol
05/16/22 10:53:37 AM
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I get very frustrated when people stay in the tells, dont move, and then complain when they die. You dying from the deadly mist you wont move out of is your fault, not the healers.

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s0nicfan
05/16/22 10:54:34 AM
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Evol posted...
I get very frustrated when people stay in the tells, dont move, and them complain when they die. You dying from the deadly mist you wont move out of is your fault, not the healers.

Which is why many MMOs give healers a pull move to forcefully drag people out of danger.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 10:56:37 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
They're a disgrace to the whole concept of being a healer
disagree
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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 10:58:26 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Which is why many MMOs give healers a pull move to forcefully drag people out of danger.
Pulls are a dps loss so they blame you for that. The preferable option is to not heal them until they die and then proceed to not res them
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Ilishe
05/16/22 10:59:12 AM
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I like how people don't even get you're trolling them tc

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s0nicfan
05/16/22 11:00:06 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
Pulls are a dps loss so they blame you for that. The preferable option is to not heal them until they die and then proceed to not res them

Depending on the content, the preferable option is doing your job so that the party doesn't wipe and you blow 15 additional minutes resetting a fight because you wanted to make a point. I don't have the kind of spare time that lets me throw it away on meaningless stuff like trying to make a point to a complete stranger who isn't going to change their behavior.

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s0nicfan
05/16/22 11:01:17 AM
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Ilishe posted...
I like how people don't even get you're trolling them tc

If it is a troll I definitely didn't catch it, but only because I've played MMOs enough over the years to know that healers on a power trip are most definitely a real class of people that exist. "You don't pay my sub" and all that.

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Evol
05/16/22 11:01:18 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Which is why many MMOs give healers a pull move to forcefully drag people out of danger.

And many dont have this.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 11:02:51 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Depending on the content, the preferable option is doing your job so that the party doesn't wipe and you blow 15 additional minutes resetting a fight because you wanted to make a point. I don't have the kind of spare time that lets me throw it away on meaningless stuff like trying to make a point to a complete stranger who isn't going to change their behavior.

a healers job isnt to compensate for stupid
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MarthGoomba
05/16/22 11:04:53 AM
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Kloe_Rinz posted...
The preferable option is to not heal them until they die and then proceed to not res them
This toxic behaviour is why healers take the blame for everything

Please never play in a healing role, ever

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CrimsonAngel
05/16/22 11:05:44 AM
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It's the best because it's the easiest

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Dakimakura
05/16/22 11:12:10 AM
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*Bust your ass healing*

*Literally anyone dies for any reason*

"Zero heals"

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averagejoel
05/16/22 11:13:28 AM
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InTheEyesOfFire posted...
Ive noticed. This is my first ever magic character, and I decided healer lol. I do plan to do necromancer related stuff, which was the draw.
clerics are actually really strong blaster/controllers. Spirit Guardians is a fantastic spell and Spiritual Weapon lets them weaponize their bonus action

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NoxObscuras
05/16/22 11:14:05 AM
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Ilishe posted...
I like how people don't even get you're trolling them tc
Yeah it should have been obvious because the opening post is literally the opposite of what happens with healers. It's why healer is my least favorite role to play lol

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InTheEyesOfFire
05/16/22 11:15:22 AM
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averagejoel posted...
clerics are actually really strong blaster/controllers. Spirit Guardians is a fantastic spell and Spiritual Weapon lets them weaponize their bonus action

Yeah, Im really digging spiritual weapon a lot. Its a cool spell for role play and combat obviously.

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QueenCarly
05/16/22 11:20:17 AM
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CrimsonAngel posted...
It's the best because it's the easiest

It's the hardest by a mile. DPS and tanks usually have one to two enemies to focus on, healers have the entire party to worry about.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/16/22 11:32:07 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
This toxic behaviour is why healers take the blame for everything

Please never play in a healing role, ever
I main healer and do better than most others

Dakimakura posted...
*Bust your ass healing*

*Literally anyone dies for any reason*

"Zero heals"
Thats kinda how I expect marth behaves
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darkmaian23
05/16/22 11:39:56 AM
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I find it upsetting that the White Magic role was designed around the healer just healing, but parties have always expected you to contribute whatever minuscule damage you can to make the raid go that much faster. If I wanted to do both offense and defense, I'd be a Red Mage. Pure DPS? Black Mage. It's not that I can't do DPS, it's just that I really love healing people and focusing purely on keeping the party safe and helping out if newbies are running dungeons I know.

It's the primary reason I dropped FFXIV.
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Umbreon
05/16/22 11:45:38 AM
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MarthGoomba posted...
This toxic behaviour is why healers take the blame for everything

Please never play in a healing role, ever


No, healers get blamed because idiot DPS roles thinks 'We have a healer' means 'Don't attempt to avoid anything ever'.

If you're standing in fire and you die? That's your fault, assuming you weren't stunned/snared. I've gotten so much blame for dps who think they're a tank.

I try to keep everyone alive, but if you keep doing stupid shit then you're on an lower priority. Why keep blowing your major cooldowns on someone who's going to get themselves killed shortly after anyway?

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Iron-Tarkus
05/16/22 11:56:46 AM
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darkmaian23 posted...
I find it upsetting that the White Magic role was designed around the healer just healing, but parties have always expected you to contribute whatever minuscule damage you can to make the raid go that much faster. If I wanted to do both offense and defense, I'd be a Red Mage. Pure DPS? Black Mage. It's not that I can't do DPS, it's just that I really love healing people and focusing purely on keeping the party safe and helping out if newbies are running dungeons I know.

It's the primary reason I dropped FFXIV.
Yeah Ive seen more than a few people out off by how damage focused healing is in FF. I can understand it being polarizing as much as I like it.

Friend got me into playing classic wow with him and honestly its a nice change of pace healing in that game

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