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sutree
05/16/22 8:07:17 PM
#152:


DeadBankerDream posted... A complete nonsense armchair stance by someone who has no perspective on what he's talking about.
DemonBuffet posted...
Most of the bleeding hearts in CE are the way they are because theyve lived sheltered lives for their entire existence. Theyve never been been punched in the face, robbed at gunpoint, or have faced any kind of evil in their lives.
So of course they like to sit on high horses lol
A_Good_Boy posted...
Cause that seems like an awfully easy and naive thing to insist that he should do while you're posting on a dying video game message board from the safety of your own home.

You guys are dweebs with zero self-awareness. Defending needless cruelty from your armchairs is so brave!

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MarcyWarcy
05/16/22 8:16:42 PM
#153:


pinky0926 posted...
Do people really see this as something good? Like good entertaining tiktok content?

Christ, I get that the soldier has a right to be as angry and vengeful as a person can be, but if you watched this video and enjoyed it...something is off about you. Maybe go play outside time.

The parts of the internet that are traditionally more averse to such things have become a lot more comfortable with relishing death over the five years or so, for whatever reason
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North_Rawr
05/16/22 8:18:42 PM
#154:


I see this board is more than happy to spite the enlisted and the civilians for the decisions of the brass and the government. It always the poorest and the most vunerable that feels the brunt of the world's ire.

RIP to all Russian soldiers that die in the conflict.

I will pray for that women to find peace seeing her husband likely killer and the man that took her children father away (if she had any).

I hope the Ukrainian soldier is reprimanded for his actions, lose rank and learn humility, as cruelty towards armless civilians makes them no better than the men they shoot.

And I hope the Kremlin and Putin burn in hell.
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deoxxys
05/16/22 8:20:13 PM
#155:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
Like Jesus, its okay to say this is evil shit without it being youre defending Russias actions
Exactly

Like the fuck wrong with some of y'all?

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Vyrulisse
05/16/22 8:44:18 PM
#156:


MICHALECOLE posted...
I once got into an argument with somebody about those pictures of American soldiers pissing on the corpses of Iraqi soldiers and they were saying how it was despicable and all that.

look, it is. There is no denying that, obviously. But if youre a soldier and your friends and brothers are getting killed, and people are trying to kill you, thats a world I, and most people, have never been in and will never be in. I basically feel like I cant comment on that, and I shouldnt. I have no right to. Im out of my element, Donny.

people try and act like wars are ever a good thing because their side is the good guys. There are no good guys, theres just poor brainwashed kids killing other poor brainwashed kids. War is bad. Killing people is bad.
Honestly the best post in this topic.

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05/16/22 8:50:57 PM
#157:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Because George Floyd deserved to die sorta like how an invading Russian soldier deserved to die.
Anybody who uses that as a counterpoint probably thinks he did deserve it.
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Turtlemayor333
05/16/22 9:06:59 PM
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*Russian solider logs on CE after helping destroy a Ukrainian civilian shelter*

"Can you believe this shit? There are Americans on the internet sending us their sympathy!"

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Sheiky-Baby
05/16/22 9:18:23 PM
#160:


Blue_Inigo posted...
Pretty fucked up


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Kami_no_Kami
05/16/22 9:21:19 PM
#161:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Is anyone even insulting the Ukrainian soldier, though? Ill admit I havent read through the entire topic, but most people are calling his actions reprehensible. Ill agree that hes in a tough situation and I feel for him too, but being emotionally compromised doesnt make his actions any more moral or just.
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What_
05/16/22 9:29:34 PM
#162:


Russians were doing the same shit so Im not gonna to a tear for this crap
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SirEsquireIII
05/16/22 10:08:04 PM
#164:


g0ldie posted...


you don't need to feel sorry for everyone, you know.


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xGhostchantx
05/17/22 2:10:36 AM
#165:


haha, that was coooold. i love it.
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MrMallard
05/17/22 2:12:59 AM
#166:


It's fucked up, sure.

Russian fucks still came into their country to kill civilians and impose a despot over an independent, democratic nation.

I'm not going to condemn Ukraine for this.

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Corrik7
05/17/22 7:13:04 AM
#167:


MrMallard posted...
It's fucked up, sure.

Russian fucks still came into their country to kill civilians and impose a despot over an independent, democratic nation.

I'm not going to condemn Ukraine for this.
Why would you condemn Ukraine? You can just say that dude was being fucked up for what he did and not condemn the country.

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gunplagirl
05/17/22 7:21:12 AM
#168:


Well that's fucking evil.

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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 7:25:17 AM
#169:


That made me nauseous

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Guns_of_Verdun
05/17/22 7:26:33 AM
#170:


Materus posted...
Extremely based, fuck Russia.
Truamatizing this random woman doesn't do shit to Russia or Putin

It's just sick

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cjsdowg
05/17/22 7:43:07 AM
#171:


If anything this helps Russia.

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SergeantGander
05/17/22 7:52:47 AM
#172:


Wait you guys realize Russia has mandatory military service?

So there is a chance this guy died while being forced to serve. Or as others have noted the military loves to swoop in and save the impoverished to use as cannon fodder.

Not ever Russian is Vladimir Putin. I have no way of knowing what kind of man that Russian soldier was, and neither do you. Let alone his girlfriend who has nothing to do with the war. To essentially celebrate his death due to his nationality doesn't seem far removed from the Trumpers who freak about illegal immigrants because they think they're all drug lords.

In both cases you're stereotyping the individuals based on the actions of others based on their nationality.

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Gurifisu
05/17/22 7:53:05 AM
#173:


g0ldie posted...
don't invade a country and commit crimes against humanity in it, then.
Yes, this one dead Russian soldier in particular wanted to invade Ukraine actually. As a matter of fact he's the reason Russia, who totally doesn't have a conscription army btw, went to war. Same with his gf. Also totally responsible for what's going on so she too deserved it

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Kloe_Rinz
05/17/22 7:55:20 AM
#174:


Gurifisu posted...
Yes, this one dead Russian soldier in particular wanted to invade Ukraine actually. As a matter of fact he's the reason Russia, who totally doesn't have a conscription army btw, went to war. Same with his gf. Also totally responsible for what's going on so she too deserved it
"just following orders"
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UnfairRepresent
05/17/22 7:57:00 AM
#175:


My heart sank when she asked to see his body

People cheering this are sick. You can hate Russia and it's government without dehumanizing people

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Gurifisu
05/17/22 8:00:52 AM
#176:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
"just following orders"
Yes. The girlfriend too actually. Way to miss the point entirely.

Like others have said already. It's very simple to simultaneously hate Russia and anyone they have involved in this war, but that doesn't mean you can give Ukrainian soldiers a free pass on everything.

You don't even have to condemn this soldier in particular to find this act reprehensible and simply not say "yeah they had it coming"

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g0ldie
05/17/22 8:03:09 AM
#177:


Gurifisu posted...
Yes, this one dead Russian soldier in particular wanted to invade Ukraine actually. As a matter of fact he's the reason Russia, who totally doesn't have a conscription army btw, went to war. Same with his gf. Also totally responsible for what's going on so she too deserved it
I mean, unless if it's a minority of Russian soldiers committing atrocities against the Ukrainians, then oh well.

I'm not saying, "haha, take that!", but instead that Ukrainians are experiencing terrible things, and that this is one way for this dude to vent his frustrations because he likely feels helpless otherwise.

plus, this isn't something that's happening in a vacuum, where he's just attacking some poor Russian woman; he probably knows a girl (or girls) or a woman (or women) that have been sexually abused by Russian soldiers, or if not, knows someone who does, and that served as some motivation for this.

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baiken2
05/17/22 8:08:52 AM
#179:


Whatever happened to "hate the government, not the people"
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Gurifisu
05/17/22 8:12:29 AM
#180:


Except it's not even a matter of taking out against your aggressor. Girl has literally nothing to do with the war and you're coming at it with a "they had it coming" approach.

It takes nothing to simply just not say anything instead of trying to justify this act and say there's nothing wrong. There's a lot more wrong with this than there isn't. The only thing you can go with is "it's a medium to vent frustration". But that still doesn't make this okay. You don't need to be like "haha take that" to support it.

Frankly, regardless of what's happening I simply don't see this as an act that should be justified or enabled. It sucks what's going, but fucking with this girl that has nothing to do with this war solves nothing really.

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g0ldie
05/17/22 8:29:12 AM
#181:


one of my points is that, if Russian soldiers weren't hurting Ukrainian girls/women, this call likely wouldn't have happened. it might be cruel, petty, etc., but it's a way of "getting back" at those you view as connected, even tangentially, to the cruel circumstances that you've experienced. unfortunately to the girlfriend, she's a "face" that represents the unfairness of everything (what Russian soldiers get to go back home to).

personally, while I'm not cheering it, I also don't condemn it; the dead soldier is part of an invading force, and as terrible as it seems, prank calling the GF might be one of the few ways these guys can cope. I can't say what I'd do in a similar situation, but I'm not going to point fingers at the troll.

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cjsdowg
05/17/22 8:46:21 AM
#182:


People hate Russia so much, Ukraine and do anything without blow back. Even kick black people escaping off of Trains. So attacking a Russian, you know people are going to fine with that.

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ShineboxPhil
05/17/22 8:53:38 AM
#183:


Pretty shitty thing to mock a dead conscript's girlfriend.

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05/17/22 9:00:09 AM
#184:


Gurifisu posted...
Yes, this one dead Russian soldier in particular wanted to invade Ukraine actually.
If he entered Ukraine as part of an invading force, then he is not innocent. Period.
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SergeantGander
05/17/22 9:02:13 AM
#185:


baiken2 posted...
Whatever happened to "hate the government, not the people"

That doesn't help you get on as high of a moral high ground as the saints itt mocking a dead man's gf

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AablMind
05/17/22 9:03:09 AM
#186:


Im worried about how the Russian government will use this as propaganda say the people sluuuurping up western propaganda.

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mattfrank
05/17/22 9:06:46 AM
#187:


cjsdowg posted...
People hate Russia so much, Ukraine and do anything without blow back. Even kick black people escaping off of Trains. So attacking a Russian, you know people are going to fine with that.

The Russian united the Jews and The Nazis in Ukraine!!!Thats something you have to see to believe.lol

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05/17/22 9:13:18 AM
#188:


AablMind posted...
Im worried about how the Russian government will use this as propaganda say the people sluuuurping up western propaganda.
Another one to tag as a Russia simp.
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BTH_Phoenix
05/17/22 9:14:32 AM
#189:


Russian soldiers are shooting civilians and bombing children. They shouldn't expect Ukraine to be nice to them on the phone.

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BignutzisBack
05/17/22 9:26:00 AM
#190:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
a bit of a dick is a massive understatement.

Like Jesus, its okay to say this is evil shit without it being youre defending Russias actions.

Yall are such posers.


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Gobstoppers12
05/17/22 9:26:05 AM
#191:


A step too far? Sure. But that soldier didn't have to die. He could have surrendered like many others have. Ultimately, every invading Russian soldier has a choice.

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PlantBased
05/17/22 10:17:18 AM
#192:


g0ldie posted...
I didn't, but you can understand the trauma these people have gone through, and needing some outlet for their frustrations.
Plenty of people have though.

I'm not judging the guy for what he did but I am judging everyone who takes delight in this from the safety of their online device on the other side of the world.

Vyrulisse posted...
Honestly the best post in this topic.
Except the part where the United States is Russia in his story, yet we all know that if some young Muslim fighter in Iraq who was radicalized in his childhood when his innocent family was killed in the endless campaigns of Western imperialism in the Middle East and he called up Britney Johnson to taunt her about the death of her boyfriend Michael Taylor, the responses would be markedly different than the pleas for understanding and sympathy for this Ukrainian fighter from whom he has no real distinction.

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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 10:29:44 AM
#194:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
A step too far? Sure. But that soldier didn't have to die. He could have surrendered like many others have. Ultimately, every invading Russian soldier has a choice.
Bruh

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SergeantGander
05/17/22 10:30:30 AM
#195:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


True. I forgot the dead soldier was actually Vladimir Putin and not a potentially impoverished man looking for work or perhaps drafted into the military against his wishes.

At least now that the guy that ordered the invasion is dead Russian forces should start leaving the Ukraine!

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DeadBankerDream
05/17/22 10:33:12 AM
#196:


SergeantGander posted...
True. I forgot the dead soldier was actually Vladimir Putin and not a potentially impoverished man looking for work or perhaps drafted into the military against his wishes.

At least now that the guy that ordered the invasion is dead Russian forces should start leaving the Ukraine!
It's incredibly absurd and armchair-y to expect Ukrainian soldiers on the ground to make the intellectual distinction between the kabal of people at the top ordering the invasion of Ukraine and the Russian soldiery carrying out said invasion.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 10:37:48 AM
#198:


This guy could have just created a new threat as well. She has nothing to do with the invasion she was just dating a Russian soldier and possibly did not know he was part of the invasion. Think about this from her POV, some enemy soldier calls on your boyfriends phone to you and mocks and insults you and him probably when she was hoping to hear hes ok, instead you learn from the person who might have killed him the guy is dead.

That might just be enough to piss her off to the point she wants revenge and could turn a person who might have sympathized with Ukraine into a lets support the invasion and kill all these people because one jackass decided to taunt his fallen enemy and his girl.

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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 10:40:04 AM
#199:


RiKuToTheMiGhtY posted...
This guy could have just created a new threat as well. She has nothing to do with the invasion she was just dating a Russian soldier and possibly did not know he was part of the invasion. Think about this from her POV, some enemy soldier calls on your boyfriends phone to you and mocks and insults you and him probably.

That might just be enough to piss her off to the point she wants revenge and could turn a person who might have sympathized with Ukraine into a lets support the invasion and kill all these people because one jackass decided to taunt his fallen enemy and his girl.

Empathy is not a very common character trait on CE. Which, in this very fucked up case, is incredibly depressing.

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AmishDoinks420
05/17/22 10:44:56 AM
#201:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Dude, I really dont care about what you have to say on the matter. A lot of Russian soldiers arent fighting of their own free will, and taunting the girlfriend of one of those soldiers after their death is pretty smol PP energy. This Ukrainian soldier needs to be tagged and put on every watch list available. There are rules of honor in war and this kid broke them all.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
05/17/22 10:45:25 AM
#202:


AmishDoinks420 posted...
Empathy is not a very common character trait on CE. Which, in this very fucked up case, is incredibly depressing.
This is not about empathy it is kill the enemy ok but do not make it personal for a non combatant. Doing shit like this is how you create a new problem because some peoples loved ones will not only be upset but they will decide to join the fight because you just pissed them off and mocked them.

Very often when this happens the propaganda this hurt person creates can shift other people from indifferent or sympathetic to fuck those people, they do deserve to be invaded.

This one random asshole could have just given the russian invasion flipped the script moment NOT in Ukraines favor.

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