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htaeD
05/22/22 8:11:50 PM
#152:


Regardless, I think we should hear from Sultan too today right?

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Hbthebattle
05/22/22 8:12:44 PM
#154:


Did Sultan ever say he had prosty on Pokmon side

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:13:42 PM
#155:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Chris aside, because I know what hes actually doing here, anyone who thought I was scum is a bad player or scum themselves. They overextended on day one in their sad mislynch setup.

HB, I like you a lot but scanning me was such a waste.

I do have to confess that one of my immediate thought to your posts at the start were that you planned to frame Arti.
Boy is my face red

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:13:55 PM
#156:


Hm hm hm

Scum equity here is clear. This helps to stifle activity without giving town any new information. Arti was heavily suspected before this anyway and would be asked to claim. But why would they flavor scan ulti who claimed. That's very strange. Getting the same syntax as hb is strange. Claiming the same role and scan as hb is very strange. Yes stifle discussion but hm hm hm.

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Kirby321
05/22/22 8:14:02 PM
#157:


Hbthebattle posted...
Did Sultan ever say he had prosty on Pokmon side

He claimed vanilla Pok IIRC. Don't think he said the flavor. But take my words with a grain of salt since I clearly don't remember stuff from Day 2 very well.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:14:27 PM
#158:


Hbthebattle posted...
Did Sultan ever say he had prosty on Pokmon side


I doubt he has. But in case he has more info from his pokemon role, it cant hurt to reveal it. I think.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:14:47 PM
#159:


Kirby321 posted...


He claimed vanilla Pok IIRC. Don't think he said the flavor. But take my words with a grain of salt since I clearly don't remember stuff from Day 2 very well.

Never mind if thats the case.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:15:28 PM
#160:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Hm hm hm

Scum equity here is clear. This helps to stifle activity without giving town any new information. Arti was heavily suspected before this anyway and would be asked to claim. But why would they flavor scan ulti who claimed. That's very strange. Getting the same syntax as hb is strange. Claiming the same role and scan as hb is very strange. Yes stifle discussion but hm hm hm.


Maybe they didnt know what to think about Ulti...

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:15:57 PM
#162:


But my post 133 is all I need to lynch arti today oddness aside.

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Isquen
05/22/22 8:16:59 PM
#163:


##unvote
I need to walk through this a bit more, I think. I do believe I'm getting flavor-trapped.


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ScareChan
05/22/22 8:17:37 PM
#164:


Maybe Scum is numbered to where they know there is a third party and they've been thinking Ulti?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:19:11 PM
#165:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Sbell is a good choice if ulti is town. I like this answer.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:19:32 PM
#166:


ScareChan posted...
Maybe Scum is numbered to where they know there is a third party and they've been thinking Ulti?


Of course... a Star Trek Digimon

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Kirby321
05/22/22 8:19:39 PM
#167:


I mean, HB has his N1 scan on Abacus, which Abacus hasn't disputed. The odds of HB bussing Sheep, the actual scum tracker, is astronomically low.

The possibility of two town-sided flavor cops being a thing exists, sure, but so far HB has a lot more going for him than Arti. HB is definitely telling the truth; Arti might be telling half-truths here.

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Hbthebattle
05/22/22 8:19:41 PM
#168:


Its possible that if they bought Corriks cop claim, they also bought Ultis claim about having some strong power.

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Arti
05/22/22 8:20:23 PM
#169:


Anyway, I know I'm light side and that how I've read the game so far has been terrible as I have two people on my scum list with one that has flipped town and one that I have scanned to be what he claimed to be. Probably my worst town game since Infinity mafia and I don't have a confirmable role this time!

Going to have to read again, now with the added knowledge of Corrik and Ulti being town.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:20:34 PM
#170:


Hbthebattle posted...
Its possible that if they bought Corriks cop claim, they also bought Ultis claim about having some strong power.

But flavor scans don't so anything there.

But arti already lied today beyond this in explaining his reasoning so this is open and shut

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:20:50 PM
#171:


Flavorscan says so little about power though...
Though maybe they scanned him N1?

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changmas
05/22/22 8:21:27 PM
#172:


It is very strange that SBell, after Arti literally claimed the same role as HB, would make a post about role doubles between Town and Scum team but to incriminate Ulti rather than Arti

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Isquen
05/22/22 8:22:58 PM
#173:


##vote: Hbthebattle
I know this one looks odd, but hear me out, or correct me if I'm wrong: every other town person is vanilla/(some other role.) And both scum flips have been double power. I have not heard from any vanilla/vanilla or power/power yet.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:22:59 PM
#174:


Anyway take notes everyone. Arti claimed a night action and role that's weird. I asked a question to get him to tell a lie. Don't rely on role fuzziness or night actions. Ask questions.

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ScareChan
05/22/22 8:23:08 PM
#175:


I imagine we're past this, but the person I would have pushed to be in the rotation for lynching is Chang

Chang was the first one to bring up flavor and Ben gave him town credit immediately

I also don't like that Chang suddenly became very cutesy when Sheep was set to be lynched, calling him Woolo. It feels out of character to me.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:23:15 PM
#176:


....Btw HB wasnt roleblocked again
Guess they didnt think he would get a power again?

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:23:21 PM
#177:


Isquen posted...
##vote: Hbthebattle
I know this one looks odd, but hear me out, or correct me if I'm wrong: every other town person is vanilla/(some other role.) And both scum flips have been double power. I have not heard from any vanilla/vanilla or power/power yet.

We are not going to meta the host sir

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Isquen
05/22/22 8:23:52 PM
#178:


(Also it goes without saying that sweet boy status is on hiatus until refuted.)

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:24:03 PM
#179:


ScareChan posted...
I imagine we're past this, but the person I would have pushed to be in the rotation for lynching is Chang

Chang was the first one to bring up flavor and Ben gave him town credit immediately

I also don't like that Chang suddenly became very cutesy when Sheep was set to be lynched, calling him Woolo. It feels out of character to me.

I think given Ben's town list he was looking for town to preen on.

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masterplum
05/22/22 8:25:06 PM
#180:


Arti posted...
Anyway, I know I'm light side and that how I've read the game so far has been terrible

I feel like I've read scum say something to this effect 30 times

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ViolentAbacus
05/22/22 8:25:12 PM
#181:


Isquen posted...
##vote: Hbthebattle
I know this one looks odd, but hear me out, or correct me if I'm wrong: every other town person is vanilla/(some other role.) And both scum flips have been double power. I have not heard from any vanilla/vanilla or power/power yet.

Part of me feels this is a ploy to try to get more people to reveal their powers.

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Kirby321
05/22/22 8:25:32 PM
#182:


Isquen posted...
##vote: Hbthebattle
I know this one looks odd, but hear me out, or correct me if I'm wrong: every other town person is vanilla/(some other role.) And both scum flips have been double power. I have not heard from any vanilla/vanilla or power/power yet.

Baseless speculation. Just because no one has claimed power/power as Town yet doesn't mean it's a scum-only combination. In fact, if anyone here has power/power as Town, they shouldn't be claiming. Not to mention you haven't even heard Arti's other role claim.

Plus, scum tracker is already dead. There's a huge risk in HB faking his tracker scan on Abacus. HB is definitely town. Don't be Sheep and try to lynch the dude who is clearly town.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:25:38 PM
#183:


ViolentAbacus posted...


Part of me feels this is a ploy to try to get more people to reveal their powers.


You share my thoughts Abacus, good on you!

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:26:03 PM
#184:


masterplum posted...


I feel like I've read scum say something to this effect 30 times


Sounds like me on a bad scumday

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:26:04 PM
#185:


The worst thing you can do as a mafia player is try to play the host instead of your fellow players. It's obscene. There is no reason to vote a player solely based off role meta like hb. He has been posting well, countered the scum tracker, and has been providing good info and content for two days.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:26:26 PM
#186:


masterplum posted...
I feel like I've read scum say something to this effect 30 times

This game actually lol

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Hbthebattle
05/22/22 8:26:33 PM
#188:


htaeD posted...
....Btw HB wasnt roleblocked again
Guess they didnt think he would get a power again?
Its partially that, but I suspect that since Roleblocker and Redirector both function as interference for the scum team, Ben was supposed to be their Pokemon RB equivalent

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Isquen
05/22/22 8:26:34 PM
#189:


ViolentAbacus posted...
Part of me feels this is a ploy to try to get more people to reveal their powers.
Not the intent, but I'm announcing my suspicion nonetheless.

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:27:13 PM
#190:


I think Sbell is just being dumb town myself tbh.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:28:55 PM
#191:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Reasoning for choosing ulti, arti?

Arti posted...
I thought he was scum based on the past few days, and he was the only one to claim a flavor on my scum leans at the end of day two. Decided he was a good choice to see if he was lying about his claim and was scum because of this.

DoomTheGyarados posted...
This post is incorrect sir. Corrik had claimed his flavor.

##vote: arti

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masterplum
05/22/22 8:30:27 PM
#192:


Yeah,

##Vote:Arti

Pick your argument. There's like 4 good ones against him

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changmas
05/22/22 8:30:50 PM
#193:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Anyway take notes everyone. Arti claimed a night action and role that's weird. I asked a question to get him to tell a lie. Don't rely on role fuzziness or night actions. Ask questions.

tbh it's a fairly weak lie. the exact kind of thing I would forget under pressure as a town member. believable to me as an honest mistake.

in fact his claim would be far more believable if he had said he used it on the dead Corrik.

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Obellisk
05/22/22 8:31:37 PM
#194:


htaeD posted...
I think Sbell is just being dumb town myself tbh.


What's the counter argument against ulti being scum?

He was scanned by two players as Mewtwo? ...and?

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changmas
05/22/22 8:31:47 PM
#196:


masterplum posted...
Pick your argument. There's like 4 good ones against him

but this I agree with

##Vote: Arti

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:32:06 PM
#197:


changmas posted...
tbh it's a fairly weak lie. the exact kind of thing I would forget under pressure as a town member. believable to me as an honest mistake.

in fact his claim would be far more believable if he had said he used it on the dead Corrik.

I disagree. Corrik claimed a cop scan on HIM and he claims to have forgotten it? That is absurd in thinking process for a town member.

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DoomTheGyarados
05/22/22 8:32:49 PM
#199:


Obellisk posted...
What's the counter argument against ulti being scum?

He was scanned by two players as Mewtwo? ...and?

Good place to start that we know his flavor is legit yeah

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htaeD
05/22/22 8:32:52 PM
#200:


Obellisk posted...


What's the counter argument against ulti being scum?

He was scanned by two players as Mewtwo? ...and?


I will grant you that nothing technically excludes Ulti from being scum.
But you have to agree he is not the biggest concern right now.

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