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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 9:32:25 AM
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Really shows how low some entertainment companies are that they will crap on their fans for quick cash instead of pleasing the people. I actually replayed Shenmue 3 and rewatched Matrix 4 why do both of these IPs seem to be beating users/viewers over with the head with glaring flaws as if to say Haha! gotcha we knew this would suck!

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Irony
05/23/22 9:50:18 AM
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Only thing wrong with Shenmue 3 is it doesn't finish the story

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CountDog
05/23/22 10:00:49 AM
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Irony posted...
Only thing wrong with Shenmue 3 is it doesn't finish the story
Weren't there supposed to be like 14 of them, or something?

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Irony
05/23/22 10:01:44 AM
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I don't know about that

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Doom_Art
05/23/22 10:03:58 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
instead of pleasing the people
I didn't like Matrix 4 (and I never played Shenmue so w.e.) but when someone is writing for a movie, TV, game, whatever, the absolute last thing on their mind when they're constructing the story is "will these please all the people?"

Write the story you wanna write and feel serves the tone and themes of your idea and don't worry about making nerds online happy.

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bioshockjack
05/23/22 10:14:23 AM
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I liked Shenmue 3

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Solar_Crimson
05/23/22 10:17:49 AM
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Irony posted...
Only thing wrong with Shenmue 3 is it doesn't finish the story
Imagine being lucky to even get a chance to make a new game in a series that hasn't had one in almost two decades, but instead of actually finishing the story, you put out what is effectively a filler episode.

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Squall28
05/23/22 10:20:02 AM
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yeah Matrix 4 was awful. Whole film was them saying "please nostalgia"

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Zodd3224
05/23/22 10:20:45 AM
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Matrix 4 was painfully bad

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/23/22 10:22:09 AM
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Matrix 4 is the only good one besides the first.

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Doom_Art
05/23/22 10:25:53 AM
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I liked the first third/half of Matrix 4 when it was getting all weird and playing into the whole "Neo is crazy and working through some stuff" angle, but when they bring him back to not-Zion it just got insanely boring

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SSJKirby
05/23/22 10:27:26 AM
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once Matrix 4 stops being condescending about pointless sequels and how awful Warner Bros is, it gets pretty good

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RchHomieQuanChi
05/23/22 10:29:04 AM
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The Matrix was literally a case of WB going "We're doing this with or without the Wachowskis" so Lana decided to turn Matrix 4 into a passive-aggressive "fuck you" to Warner Bros lmao

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Doom_Art
05/23/22 10:33:34 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The Matrix was literally a case of WB going "We're doing this with or without the Wachowskis" so Lana decided to turn Matrix 4 into a passive-aggressive "fuck you" to Warner Bros lmao
And that is why, even though I disliked it, I still admire the hell out of it.

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NeonOctopus
05/23/22 10:34:59 AM
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Imagine making people wait for 15+ years for a shitty sequel that also ends in a cliffhanger lol

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Solid Sonic
05/23/22 10:37:21 AM
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My understanding of Shenmue III is if you go in wanting a Dreamcast game made for a modern system with all the nuances and warts that implies then that's exactly what you'll get.

I have yet to play it.

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Gobstoppers12
05/23/22 10:46:24 AM
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Matrix 4 will be remembered better down the line once the shock of its mediocre action wears off some more. It's got some very cool and satisfying ideas at play.

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Squall28
05/23/22 10:51:16 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
It's got some very cool and satisfying ideas at play.

like?

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:01:13 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
The Matrix was literally a case of WB going "We're doing this with or without the Wachowskis" so Lana decided to turn Matrix 4 into a passive-aggressive "fuck you" to Warner Bros lmao

the movie is very aggressive towards fans of the series it basically laughs at you for pressing play in the 1st hour then laughs at your frustration for the rest of the way. The bullet time scene is essentially them saying HAHA yes dummy this movie is all trolling!


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Doom_Art
05/23/22 11:02:07 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
the movie is very aggressive towards fans of the series
what does this mean lol

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:02:08 AM
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im surprised the ending theme wasnt never gonna give you up! never gonna let you down because the movie feels like a joke

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Solid Sonic
05/23/22 11:03:11 AM
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Resurrections wasn't particularly good but I'd like to see a sequel anyway (hopefully with Lily onboard this time). I think it's worth diving back into as long as Keanu and Carrie are still young enough to play the roles.

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Gobstoppers12
05/23/22 11:04:36 AM
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Squall28 posted...
like?
Like Neo and Trinity getting a satisfying ending to their story, instead of that bullshit martyrdom ending from Revolutions. The whole first act of wondering if he's crazy or not. The meta humor of having Neo stuck churning out sequels to his one major hit.

It had cool stuff and neat character moments, which I enjoyed. Even the villain was cool in his own way. But the really underwhelming action took a lot away from the impact.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:04:43 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
what does this mean lol

The whole first hour the movie hammers home that The Matrix 4 is only being made as a cash grab ive never seen a film do this.
Just rewatch the 1st hour


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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:05:48 AM
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I liked Bugs i wish the movie was just about Bugs and her crew they where awesome Neo & Trinity made the movie awful because we had to watch flashbacks everytime they showed up

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Doom_Art
05/23/22 11:06:51 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
The whole first hour the movie hammers home that The Matrix 4 is only being made as a cash grab ive never seen a film do this.
Just rewatch the 1st hour
You can make a lot of criticisms of that movie, but you could never accuse it of being a cash grab or creatively bankrupt lol

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:07:54 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
My understanding of Shenmue III is if you go in wanting a Dreamcast game made for a modern system with all the nuances and warts that implies then that's exactly what you'll get.

I have yet to play it.

No they put little to no effort into this game its basically a port the combat is atrocious I went back and tried to replay it LOL had to delete from my xbox again they force you to play this dumbass gambling game its infuriating


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Doom_Art
05/23/22 11:10:49 AM
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god dammit dude, use a comma or a period once in a while.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:13:11 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
god dammit dude, use a comma or a period once in a while.

just imagine im talking really fast and out of breath


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Solid Sonic
05/23/22 11:14:21 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
No they put little to no effort into this game its basically a port the combat is atrocious I went back and tried to replay it LOL had to delete from my xbox again they force you to play this dumbass gambling game its infuriating

Hey, how about you don't taint my fucking view of something I plan to try.

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Zodd3224
05/23/22 11:23:04 AM
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IShall_Run_Amok posted...
Matrix 4 is the only good one besides the first.

One of the worst opinions I've ever seen written out in a post

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FelineCyborg
05/23/22 11:25:22 AM
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Matrix 4 had a cool concept but somethings really bothered me

1) agent Smith. They had to keep calling him Smith everytime he appeared to remind us he was Smith. That was bad. He didn't even talk like the old Smith

2)morpheus. I'm still not entirely sure what purpose he served to the plot.

I liked the central plot with trinity and didn't think that was bad. I even liked the weird meta stuff. But those two parts I mentioned take me out pretty hard everytime.

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DeadBankerDream
05/23/22 11:25:59 AM
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Matrix 2 is so bad I never watched the third. Being mad at number 4 for being bad sounds like a silly thing to me.

Irony posted...
Only thing wrong with Shenmue 3 is it doesn't finish the story
To be fair, that sounds like a major issue.

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FelineCyborg
05/23/22 11:26:49 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Matrix 2 is so bad I never watched the third. Being mad at number 4 for being bad sounds like a silly thing to me.

Matrix 2 wasn't bad...tf?

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WarfireX
05/23/22 11:30:58 AM
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TC, it is extremely sad how low the bar has fallen. The world simply isn't interested in producing new ideas or works of art. Everything is a remake, or a sequel to some damn thing that expired long ago and legitimate works of story telling are swept under the rug because how can the hype compare to the second coming of FFVII? Then the internet has the gall to complain about quality works that they still tune in for and have captured their attention, because everyone on the internet is too cool to appreciate things as they come out. IE this board regularly whines about Better Call Saul and Attack on Titan.

Yet the theaters blow up for super hero tripe and unwelcome sequels. Truly a sad time in history.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:31:44 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Hey, how about you don't taint my fucking view of something I plan to try.

brother im trying to save you the combat system alone is going to take you out when you see it is UNRESPONSIVE AS fucking fuck and just waitjust wait until you unlock the 2nd secret move


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WarfireX
05/23/22 11:31:56 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
Matrix 2 wasn't bad...tf?
Matrix 2 sucked some ass. Try watching that movie with NONE of the action scenes. There's nothing entertaining about it, unless maybe you're a highschooler who plans on majoring in philosophy and you think that the Architect scene was high art.

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Solid Sonic
05/23/22 11:32:30 AM
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WarfireX posted...
TC, it is extremely sad how low the bar has fallen. The world simply isn't interested in producing new ideas or works of art. Everything is a remake, or a sequel to some damn thing that expired long ago and legitimate works of story telling are swept under the rug because how can the hype compare to the second coming of FFVII? Then the internet has the gall to complain about quality works that they still tune in for and have captured their attention, because everyone on the internet is too cool to appreciate things as they come out. IE this board regularly whines about Better Call Saul and Attack on Titan.

Yet the theaters blow up for super hero tripe and unwelcome sequels. Truly a sad time in history.

Are you saying Sonic 2 shouldn't have been made?

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:33:10 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Hey, how about you don't taint my fucking view of something I plan to try.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNAKDx4CwY

brother do not pay more than $20 for this shit ass game sega should be ashamed


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WarfireX
05/23/22 11:33:11 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Hey, how about you don't taint my fucking view of something I plan to try.
The game literally makes you do stupid things like watch your character sit in horse stance before he "powers up" and gets stronger. Otherwise you can't inflict damage on enemies.

Game is garbage made by a senile old man. You're better off just watching the lame anime that Adult Swim is producing.

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Zodd3224
05/23/22 11:34:17 AM
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The whole Matrix trilogy is great.

The 4th has no reason to exist.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:34:49 AM
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WarfireX posted...
TC, it is extremely sad how low the bar has fallen. The world simply isn't interested in producing new ideas or works of art. Everything is a remake, or a sequel to some damn thing that expired long ago and legitimate works of story telling are swept under the rug because how can the hype compare to the second coming of FFVII? Then the internet has the gall to complain about quality works that they still tune in for and have captured their attention, because everyone on the internet is too cool to appreciate things as they come out. IE this board regularly whines about Better Call Saul and Attack on Titan.

Yet the theaters blow up for super hero tripe and unwelcome sequels. Truly a sad time in history.

someone gets it.

Shenmue and Matrix 4 are such egregious cash grabs that its basically disrespectful

as in WB & Sega disrespect us by releasing this crap


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WarfireX
05/23/22 11:35:00 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Are you saying Sonic 2 shouldn't have been made?
What? No. Is that seriously all you got? "Duhhhh I'll name a GOOD sequel!" And Sonic is the first game to come to mind?

Yes, good sequels exist. That doesn't mean make a sequel of every *****ing game that still has a dwindling fan base just to fleece them of money.

There should be a rule against making sequels to things after 10 years. Blade Runner 2048 would be exempt from that rule, but there should still be one.

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WarfireX
05/23/22 11:35:16 AM
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Nasty_Nitro posted...
someone gets it.

Shenmue and Matrix 4 are such egregious cash grabs that its basically disrespectful

as in WB & Sega disrespect us by releasing this crap
I got your back, TC.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:36:16 AM
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WarfireX posted...
The game literally makes you do stupid things like watch your character sit in horse stance before he "powers up" and gets stronger. Otherwise you can't inflict damage on enemies.

Game is garbage made by a senile old man. You're better off just watching the lame anime that Adult Swim is producing.

How about all the unskippable frickin animations they make you watch over snd over or how about the stupid food system for health my god this game pisses me TF off.


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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:38:53 AM
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WarfireX posted...
What? No. Is that seriously all you got? "Duhhhh I'll name a GOOD sequel!" And Sonic is the first game to come to mind?

Yes, good sequels exist. That doesn't mean make a sequel of every *****ing game that still has a dwindling fan base just to fleece them of money.

There should be a rule against making sequels to things after 10 years. Blade Runner 2048 would be exempt from that rule, but there should still be one.

Blade Runner 2048 and Dune are the only good super late sequels/remakes you can tell the directors cared about the story and what the ORIGINAL FANS liked about it.

Matrix 4- They literally said hmmmm lets make this movie boring and pointless

Shenmue 4- lets cash out fuck it


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FelineCyborg
05/23/22 11:39:44 AM
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WarfireX posted...
Matrix 2 sucked some ass. Try watching that movie with NONE of the action scenes. There's nothing entertaining about it, unless maybe you're a highschooler who plans on majoring in philosophy and you think that the Architect scene was high art.

Bro the movie was fine. The plot was fine. It sparked a shit ton of fan theories and speculations at the time before the third movie came out. It was by all accounts a good middle movie for a trilogy, something that made you hungry for the next one. Then the next one came out and didn't follow through with any of the intriguing plot points. That's literally the only reason people hate the second one now. I saw two multiple times in theaters, shit was hype and everybody loved it and now people are playing internet revision history these days on it and saying it was always bad.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:39:51 AM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Are you saying Sonic 2 shouldn't have been made?

duke Sonic 2 came out 30yrs ago


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DeadBankerDream
05/23/22 11:41:05 AM
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Denis Villeneuve absolutely did not give a shit about what fans of the original Blade Runner or the "original" Dune wanted.

Thank fucking Christ.

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Nasty_Nitro
05/23/22 11:41:12 AM
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FelineCyborg posted...
Bro the movie was fine. The plot was fine. It sparked a shit ton of fan theories and speculations at the time before the third movie came out. It was by all accounts a good middle movie for a trilogy, something that made you hungry for the next one. Then the next one came out and didn't follow through with any of the intriguing plot points. That's literally the only reason people hate the second one now.

Matrix Reloaded is awesome the 3rd is just do fucking bad it ruins the other movies. totally agree


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