Poll of the Day > Should robots have human rights?

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VampireCoyote 05/31/22 9:07:16 PM #52:	Kyuubi4269 posted... It means it would be a robot rights violation to let it go rusty and continue to use it. Instead of companies being fined for using coffee machines that piss out rust and serving it to customers, they get charged with a robot rights violation. No using lawnmowers with blunt blades, no driving broken cars, you are legally required to have it repaired before its used again, no matter what it is. ok I think youre being really pedantic about the word robot obviously a lawnmower is not the same thing as an AI which isnt the same thing as a robot but everyone else understood just fine --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965442476] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>It means it would be a robot rights violation to let it go rusty and continue to use it. Instead of companies being fined for using coffee machines that piss out rust and serving it to customers, they get charged with a robot rights violation. No using lawnmowers with blunt blades, no driving broken cars, you are legally required to have it repaired before its used again, no matter what it is.</quote> ok I think youre being really pedantic about the word robot obviously a lawnmower is not the same thing as an AI which isnt the same thing as a robot but everyone else understood just fine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kyuubi4269 05/31/22 9:11:59 PM #53:	VampireCoyote posted... ok I think youre being really pedantic about the word robot obviously a lawnmower is not the same thing as an AI which isnt the same thing as a robot but everyone else understood just fine The principle is completely transferable, for example you can't use an AI that's got bugs that harm its ability to do its job, so failing to keep its databases up to date so it can do its function would be a robot rights violation. It only needs to be able to function as it's supposed to, just as human rights only ensure we have necessities for how we live life and doesn't secure us luxuries. --- Doctor Foxx posted... The demonizing of soy has a lot to do with xenophobic ideas. <cite>Kyuubi4269 posted [p:965442569] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>VampireCoyote posted...</cite> <quote> ok I think youre being really pedantic about the word robot obviously a lawnmower is not the same thing as an AI which isnt the same thing as a robot but everyone else understood just fine </quote> The principle is completely transferable, for example you can't use an AI that's got bugs that harm its ability to do its job, so failing to keep its databases up to date so it can do its function would be a robot rights violation. It only needs to be able to function as it's supposed to, just as human rights only ensure we have necessities for how we live life and doesn't secure us luxuries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 05/31/22 9:22:13 PM #54:	Human rights do ensure some luxuries though. For example it doesnt cost anything to feel a breeze or listen to music or laugh with people --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965442784] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>Human rights do ensure some luxuries though. For example it doesnt cost anything to feel a breeze or listen to music or laugh with people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/22 11:24:02 PM #55:	Revelation34 posted... Let's harvest all the clone's organs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbelq2dtKg DocDelicious posted... I say we go the Dune route and prohibit all computers. We have to figure out how to make space drugs out of worm poop first. VampireCoyote posted... it doesnt cost anything to listen to music Yes it does. CDs cost money, iTunes and other services are a thing, and even "free" services like radio are funded by advertising. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:965445140] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>Let's harvest all the clone's organs.</quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbelq2dtKg <cite>DocDelicious posted...</cite> <quote>I say we go the Dune route and prohibit all computers.</quote> We have to figure out how to make space drugs out of worm poop first. <cite>VampireCoyote posted...</cite> <quote>it doesnt cost anything to listen to music</quote> Yes it does. CDs cost money, iTunes and other services are a thing, and even "free" services like radio are funded by advertising.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 05/31/22 11:26:29 PM #56:	ParanoidObsessive posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbelq2dtKg We have to figure out how to make space drugs out of worm poop first. Yes it does. CDs cost money, iTunes and other services are a thing, and even "free" services like radio are funded by advertising. you can listen to free music though or even create it nothing can stop it --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965445182] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbelq2dtKg We have to figure out how to make space drugs out of worm poop first. Yes it does. CDs cost money, iTunes and other services are a thing, and even "free" services like radio are funded by advertising.</quote> you can listen to free music though or even create it nothing can stop it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 05/31/22 11:28:52 PM #57:	Is it just me, or does Ewan McGregor's head look weird? Like it doesn't fit his body... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:965445218] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>Is it just me, or does Ewan McGregor's head look weird? Like it doesn't fit his body...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 05/31/22 11:30:28 PM #58:	No, but knowing our government Elon Musk himself will probably push that by making AI that is just as intelligent as a human and making it suffer infinitely intense suffering to increase its efficiency by 2%. Can't just have an intelligent and useful tool, it'll squeeze the profit out of it until everyone dies. --- why am I even here <cite>Yellow posted [p:965445241] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>No, but knowing our government Elon Musk himself will probably push that by making AI that is just as intelligent as a human and making it suffer infinitely intense suffering to increase its efficiency by 2%. Can't just have an intelligent and useful tool, it'll squeeze the profit out of it until everyone dies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 05/31/22 11:33:03 PM #59:	LinkPizza posted... Is it just me, or does Ewan McGregor's head look weird? Like it doesn't fit his body... everything about him looks weird forever but he is Obi-Wan --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965445284] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>Is it just me, or does Ewan McGregor's head look weird? Like it doesn't fit his body...</quote> everything about him looks weird forever but he is Obi-Wan </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/22 11:33:11 PM #60:	VampireCoyote posted... you can listen to free music though Yeah, but most people don't. Nearly every song people today listen to on a regular basis cost money to produce, and almost certainly cost money vis-a-vis distribution. And that's before we get into even murkier discussions about whether or not music made via an instrument is technically "free" because you had to pay for the instrument in the first place, or if recorded music is free because you technically had to pay for the recording media, if things posted on YouTube would count because they cost bandwidth (and somebody has to pay the bills), etc. But yeah, sure, if the only music you listen to is from your own whistling, or you're just banging two rocks together, that's free. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:965445286] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote><cite>VampireCoyote posted...</cite> <quote>you can listen to free music though</quote> Yeah, but most people don't. Nearly every song people today listen to on a regular basis cost money to produce, and almost certainly cost money vis-a-vis distribution. And that's before we get into even murkier discussions about whether or not music made via an instrument is technically "free" because you had to pay for the instrument in the first place, or if recorded music is free because you technically had to pay for the recording media, if things posted on YouTube would count because they cost bandwidth (and somebody has to pay the bills), etc. But yeah, sure, if the only music you listen to is from your own whistling, or you're just banging two rocks together, that's free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 05/31/22 11:34:42 PM #61:	Yellow posted... No, but knowing our government Elon Musk himself will probably push that by making AI that is just as intelligent as a human and making it suffer infinitely intense suffering to increase its efficiency by 2%. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ones_Who_Walk_Away_from_Omelas --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:965445305] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>No, but knowing our government Elon Musk himself will probably push that by making AI that is just as intelligent as a human and making it suffer infinitely intense suffering to increase its efficiency by 2%.</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ones_Who_Walk_Away_from_Omelas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 05/31/22 11:37:28 PM #62:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Yeah, but most people don't. Nearly every song people today listen to on a regular basis cost money to produce, and almost certainly cost money vis-a-vis distribution. And that's before we get into even murkier discussions about whether or not music made via an instrument is technically "free" because you had to pay for the instrument in the first place, or if recorded music is free because you technically had to pay for the recording media, if things posted on YouTube would count because they cost bandwidth (and somebody has to pay the bills), etc. But yeah, sure, if the only music you listen to is from your own whistling, or you're just banging two rocks together, that's free. no you can go to places where people just play music out in the open. Actual quality music with heart and soul. Practically anywhere in the world you can find this. where do they not have music freely available and how do we get it to them --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965445338] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah, but most people don't. Nearly every song people today listen to on a regular basis cost money to produce, and almost certainly cost money vis-a-vis distribution. And that's before we get into even murkier discussions about whether or not music made via an instrument is technically "free" because you had to pay for the instrument in the first place, or if recorded music is free because you technically had to pay for the recording media, if things posted on YouTube would count because they cost bandwidth (and somebody has to pay the bills), etc. But yeah, sure, if the only music you listen to is from your own whistling, or you're just banging two rocks together, that's free.</quote> no you can go to places where people just play music out in the open. Actual quality music with heart and soul. Practically anywhere in the world you can find this. where do they not have music freely available and how do we get it to them </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/31/22 11:38:36 PM #63:	ParanoidObsessive posted... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbelq2dtKg We have to figure out how to make space drugs out of worm poop first. Yes it does. CDs cost money, iTunes and other services are a thing, and even "free" services like radio are funded by advertising. I know the plot somewhat but never saw the movie. The one I'm thinking of is more the scenario from Sliders. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:965445357] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbelq2dtKg We have to figure out how to make space drugs out of worm poop first. Yes it does. CDs cost money, iTunes and other services are a thing, and even "free" services like radio are funded by advertising.</quote> I know the plot somewhat but never saw the movie. The one I'm thinking of is more the scenario from Sliders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 06/01/22 12:00:14 AM #64:	DocDelicious posted... I say we go the Dune route and prohibit all computers. Let's go the 40k route and use lobotomized humans to run computers on instead of AI --- In my opinion, all slavery is wrong, even the really fancy kind - Mead <cite>Zareth posted [p:965445682] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>DocDelicious posted... </cite> <quote>I say we go the Dune route and prohibit all computers.</quote>Let's go the 40k route and use lobotomized humans to run computers on instead of AI </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/01/22 3:11:37 AM #65:	VampireCoyote posted... no you can go to places where people just play music out in the open. Someone is still paying for it most of the time, even if it isn't you directly. Even if it's just people busking for donations. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:965447707] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote><cite>VampireCoyote posted...</cite> <quote>no you can go to places where people just play music out in the open.</quote> Someone is still paying for it most of the time, even if it isn't you directly. Even if it's just people busking for donations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote 06/01/22 7:47:06 AM #66:	ParanoidObsessive posted... Someone is still paying for it most of the time, even if it isn't you directly. Even if it's just people busking for donations. Nope. All over the world people play music. Even in places where nobody has any fucking money. --- She/her <cite>VampireCoyote posted [p:965449892] in Should rob... [t:80038074]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>Someone is still paying for it most of the time, even if it isn't you directly. Even if it's just people busking for donations.</quote> Nope. All over the world people play music. Even in places where nobody has any fucking money. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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