Current Events > How would YOU fix the mass shooting problem, smartypants?

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sutree
05/29/22 10:56:57 PM
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Cheater87
05/29/22 10:58:56 PM
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Time machine, and have the British win the Revolutionary war.

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Pepys Monster
05/29/22 10:59:35 PM
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Allow teachers to carry if they want to, but dont require it. Why are schools targets instead of police stations? Theyre gun-free zones.

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meralonne
05/29/22 11:00:20 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Time machine, and have the British win the Revolutionary war.


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Zikten
05/29/22 11:03:05 PM
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For starters, I'd ban assault rifles
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thronedfire2
05/29/22 11:06:43 PM
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ban all guns
anyone who wants to keep guns moves to Texas
build wall around Texas so the guns can't get out

boom, problem solved. the wall is even already built on one of Texas's borders!

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sutree
05/29/22 11:06:48 PM
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Zikten posted...
For starters, I'd ban assault rifles
How on earth does that fix anything

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Pepys Monster
05/29/22 11:07:38 PM
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Zikten posted...
For starters, I'd ban assault rifles
Damn those rare, registered, pre-1986 assault rifles out there!

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iPhone_7
05/29/22 11:08:45 PM
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Time machine, arm the slaves.

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SuperSupreme
05/29/22 11:09:25 PM
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Im not qualified to say. Im sure the matter is complex and nuanced.
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SauI_Goodman
05/29/22 11:10:06 PM
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Sort of off topic but not really. I read that one of the teachers went on a smoke break and propped open a back door which is how the shooter got in. Assuming the smoke break never happened and the shooter had to go through the front would that have changed anything? Is there security or metal detectors or anything that would have stopped him.

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Arcanine2009
05/29/22 11:11:12 PM
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-Invest more in mental health care programs for kids
-take threats more seriously and have them punishable. Including online/ social media
-21 and older to buy a gun. Stricter background checks, government ID and longer time to process, including mental health evaluation. Selling to minors punishable and can have license revoked
-selling assault, automated weapons and body armor subject to stricter background checks
-quarterly or bi annual intruder drills for teachers and kids to prepare
-armed security guards/police
-making classrooms more bullet proof, especially windows and doors

armed teachers is a last resort but if needed...

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Lost_All_Senses
05/29/22 11:13:20 PM
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The patch adams way. Clown breaks

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SauI_Goodman
05/29/22 11:13:46 PM
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not sure how effective armed teachers would be if the attacker is in full riot gear. 50-50 just take your chances i suppose and hope they don't have body armor on..

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Strider102
05/29/22 11:16:54 PM
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Thoughts and prayers, obviously.

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BuIIyMaguire
05/29/22 11:17:12 PM
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Why do we assume teachers even want to be armed to the teeth? If I was a teacher Id hate being told that the solution to the problem our schools are facing is to be given a gun I hardly know how to and would not want to learn how to use.

We need a cultural shift so other solutions can be realistically achievable.

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DarthAragorn
05/29/22 11:17:54 PM
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something not involving restricting access to guns obviously

despite having more guns than any developed nation and being the only developed nation where this happens, guns are clearly not the issue

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SauI_Goodman
05/29/22 11:18:35 PM
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as a matter of fact why is riot gear even available to the public

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Pepys Monster
05/29/22 11:20:17 PM
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BuIIyMaguire posted...
Why do we assume teachers even want to be armed to the teeth? If I was a teacher Id hate being told that the solution to the problem our schools are facing is to be given a gun I hardly know how to and would not want to learn how to use.

We need a cultural shift so other solutions can be realistically achievable.
How about you dont have a gun, but the teacher who served and knows how to use one can have one of he wants to?

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Strider102
05/29/22 11:23:19 PM
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Pepys Monster posted...
How about you dont have a gun, but the teacher who served and knows how to use one can have one of he wants to?

What happens if a shooter is wearing armor and all it does is bounce off and hits someone else?

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Arcanine2009
05/29/22 11:24:33 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
something not involving restricting access to guns obviously

despite having more guns than any developed nation and being the only developed nation where this happens, guns are clearly not the issue

People in other countries don't have to worry about mass shootings. Especially school shootings.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/9/AAS1rFAADSAx.jpg
Guns are also now the leading cause of death for children in the U.S.
https://news.yahoo.com/guns-now-leading-cause-death-190042943.html

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BuIIyMaguire
05/29/22 11:25:10 PM
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There are still so many issues with arming teachers. How many teachers want to be armed? How many want to bring a gun into their classrooms? What kind of miserable atmosphere would that create for students? And as just mentioned with so many people in a classroom theres so much danger of accidentally harming someone by accident.

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IShall_Run_Amok
05/29/22 11:25:43 PM
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Abolish the 2nd amendment.

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JJH777
05/29/22 11:26:13 PM
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In an ideal world the answer would just be to ban all guns. Not even police should have them imo. Organized crime that is to the level of needing guns even in a gun free society would be handled by FBI or military.

In our world I think just banning certain types of guns and making all guns significantly harder to get is a more realistic solution. It should be at least as hard to get a gun as it is to get a driver's license. Ideally the license would require a background check, mental health evaluation in addition to a written and practical exam.

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DarthAragorn
05/29/22 11:26:41 PM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
How many school shootings are there in other countries? U S. leads by a mile.

Guns are also now the leading cause of death for children in the U.S.
https://news.yahoo.com/guns-now-leading-cause-death-190042943.html
I can't tell if you couldn't tell I was being sarcastic, but I was being sarcastic, guns are very clearly the issue and there is zero logical reason for them to be so readily available

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Strider102
05/29/22 11:28:38 PM
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One thing that would help is stop the selling/purchasing of guns at gun shows and flea markets.

Yeah, there's other ways to obtain them, sure. It's not just that that is a problem, it's how easily accessible they are to anyone.

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Number090684
05/29/22 11:29:35 PM
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I don't like your tone TC. You're making it seem like these terrorist attacks are inevitable and that we should just accept that they'll happen and just do our best to cope. Not a healthy mindset to have or one that is respectful towards the victims of these attacks.
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sutree
05/29/22 11:29:50 PM
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Strider102 posted...
One thing that would help is stop the selling/purchasing of guns at gun shows and flea markets.
Most people support this but I don't think any of these mass shooters bought their guns at a gun shows.

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Cobra1010
05/29/22 11:36:27 PM
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If there's a simple fix, it would have been done already.

When something is rooted into the culture, its very hard to change.

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DarthAragorn
05/29/22 11:36:51 PM
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Cobra1010 posted...
If there's a simple fix, it would have been done already.

When something is rooted into the culture, its very hard to change.
Clearly the solution is to do nothing then

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CommonStar
05/29/22 11:38:47 PM
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Besides banning all guns, we can:

Invest in universal healthcare including mental healthcare
Better fund our education system
Strengthen our social programs
Implement a national registry for guns
Universal background checks for every gun and ammo purchase
Require gun insurance for each weapon
Require gun licenses with specific weapon categories
Annual practical and written exams for the safety and handling of guns
Annual gun storage inspections
Increase the tax on guns and ammunitions
National gun buyback program

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IfGodCouldDie
05/29/22 11:39:00 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Clearly the solution is to do nothing then
Didn't you know that bad things are best left unaddressed so they just go away.

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Xethuminra
05/29/22 11:39:54 PM
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Back in the day, you had to carry a gun basically no matter who you were because back then they didn't have cell phones and cars or forensics or security cameras or any of the really advanced technology and knowledge we use to protect ourselves today. War was always right around the corner, literally. The laws weren't as fair. Actually monitoring people was next to impossible in most cases. There was exponentially more crime to worry about. Etc. If the military showed up back then, it was pretty much just with rifles and a few cannons. They'd set up and dig trenches. Guns were their entire world. Guns and strong walls and scouts and lookouts. Before guns, it was basically just you and your knife or a spear. How many men you had was pretty much the deciding factor in a fight unless you created special projectiles or armor or had particularly well trained troops in conjunction with sizable numbers. Nowadays? The country is guarded by satellites and automated defense systems with lasers and sleep gas. You practically don't need soldiers or cops or a personal sidearm to deal with most of the stuff you'd be worried about shooting a couple hundred years ago. In the real world, on the streets of a first world country in a major city, in the modern era, there are very few situations which can be solved with a gun. As a result, have less people started carrying guns? And has this contributed to the sense that a mass shooter could even attempt something like this without getting killed before he can pull the trigger, basically
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Kim_Seong-a
05/29/22 11:40:20 PM
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Off the top of my head?

Start with a firearm license. Getting the licence in the first place will require a psychiatric evalution. That evaluation is only valid for one year.

Reform the education system so that red flag behavior is properly documented and reported.

Reform our mental health systems so that people who exhibit red flag behavior can get proper intervention before they commit a crime.

Hold gun owners responsible when their weapons are used in mass shootings. If your gun is lost/stolen it needs to be reported within a certain timeframe or you're on the hook for crimes committed with it.

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sutree
05/29/22 11:45:05 PM
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Like none of these mass shooters have criminal backgrounds though? They have all obtained their weapons legally.

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AldousIsDead
05/29/22 11:47:39 PM
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Tax gun ownership into oblivion. 2a says they have to be available, not affordable.

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Xethuminra
05/29/22 11:50:13 PM
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Create safe zones where people who don't mind being surveiled for advanced threats like psychos with hidden rifles and grenades can congregate safely. Will people willfully trade privacy in public for safety ?

We have them anyway

There are less and less figurehead deaths for a reason
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AldousIsDead
05/29/22 11:57:06 PM
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We can't do that! That would mean a lot of the people who want to buy guns couldn't. That would be bad for business!

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rideshort
05/30/22 12:02:42 AM
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AldousIsDead posted...
We can't do that! That would mean a lot of the people who want to buy guns couldn't. That would be bad for business!

That's the point. Sucks for the business owner. But better control to prevent these situations.

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Xethuminra
05/30/22 12:03:42 AM
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Correction: you or your guard had to carry the weapon

but then again you had your guard carry you too, so
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PaunchyTurtle53
05/30/22 12:06:59 AM
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Arm everyone who's able.

You'd be a lot more hesitant to start shooting if you know that it means you're cooked too.

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Xethuminra
05/30/22 12:08:01 AM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
Arm everyone who's able.

You'd be a lot more hesitant to start shooting if you know that it means you're cooked too.
Then we have to worry about bombs and biological warfare

Why not cut to the chase?

Scan em
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The_Critic
05/30/22 12:08:53 AM
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Get a shit load of shamans that are trained to guide people through a psychedelic trips starting at 13 or so. And only a few times throughout growing up.
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PaunchyTurtle53
05/30/22 12:09:12 AM
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Xethuminra posted...
Then we have to worry about bombs and biological warfare
My brother in Christ, we already do. They're common place in the world already.

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Kloe_Rinz
05/30/22 12:09:26 AM
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the logical thing. gun control.
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Xethuminra
05/30/22 12:10:19 AM
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PaunchyTurtle53 posted...
My brother in Christ, we already do. They're common place in the world already.
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AldousIsDead
05/30/22 12:11:50 AM
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rideshort posted...
That's the point. Sucks for the business owner. But better control to prevent these situations.
I was being completely facetious there. I am of the opinion that this would be a good thing.

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