Poll of the Day > Depp won the defamation lawsuit with $8,350,000

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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 4:46:16 PM
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Depp Won

Depp won $10,000,000 on the suit, plus another $5,000,000 in damages (except the law in that state damages are capped at $350,000 = $10,350,000)

Heard won $2,000,000...throwing her a bit of a bone because of what Depp's former lawyer did (which is why Depp fired him, but I guess he needs to own up to it.)

So Depp in total won $8,350,000 (almost the same amount Depp had to pay for the divorce settlement back then)

Next questions are:
  • Does she even have the money?
  • Can she even work off that money now that she's been laughed out of Hollywood?
  • Does this prove that we rrrrreeealllly need to "believe all women"....?
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Jen0125
06/01/22 4:48:17 PM
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I hope she appeals citing inadequate representation if she can. Her attorneys were absolutely horrible.

Also your final point is dumb as fuck. Depp lost a defamation trial against The Sun because the judges found there was adequate evidence to show he physically abused Heard.
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VampireCoyote
06/01/22 4:49:40 PM
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No cares about those potato heads anymore


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VampireCoyote
06/01/22 4:57:37 PM
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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 4:57:48 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
if she can

She now owes more than she has. The money won't pause at trading hands because she has legal venues to explore. She still has to pay, because it's not Depp's problem if her venues fails.

She could appeal all she wants, it's her right. But with what lawyers? Obviously the legal team she hired was done so on a discount; or simply the fact that it was really that hard to build a case on her lies and conjecture. It's practically impossible to build an appeal case, with literally nothing left.

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Jen0125
06/01/22 5:12:28 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
She now owes more than she has. The money won't pause at trading hands because she has legal venues to explore. She still has to pay, because it's not Depp's problem if her venues fails.

She could appeal all she wants, it's her right. But with what lawyers? Obviously the legal team she hired was done so on a discount; or simply the fact that it was really that hard to build a case on her lies and conjecture. It's practically impossible to build an appeal case, with literally nothing left.

*Also consider, she could be facing charges of perjury herself as well....she might not even have the energy to do an appeal.

If she appeals the judgment gets put on hold. And she can't appeal all she wants there are specific grounds for appeal. I don't know if she has any but I'm sure her appeal attorneys are going to comb the transcripts of the side bars.
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Judgmenl
06/01/22 5:16:36 PM
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Doesn't matter his career is fucked and he won't be in Harry Potter anymore.

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Cacciato
06/01/22 5:18:49 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
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Lmao. He actually closed that topic
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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 5:22:20 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
Doesn't matter his career is fucked and he won't be in Harry Potter anymore.

Tim Burton wants him in "Beetlejuice 2"
Robert Downey Jr want him in "Sherlock Holmes 3"
Depp is in the UK right now, jamming with Jeff Beck.

His career is fucked?
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Red04
06/01/22 5:25:43 PM
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I thought he won $15 million? Minus $2 million that Amber still has to pay Johnny. She gains nothing.

  • Does she even have the money?
Well she aint Gal Gadot-levels rich so who knows.

  • Can she even work off that money now that she's been laughed out of Hollywood
Through film income? Highly unlikely.

  • Can Heard be charged with criminal perjury?
Thats a possibility considering that she did in fact lie on the stand under oath. Everything recorded and witnessed of course.

  • Does this prove that we rrrrreeealllly need to "believe all women"....?
Not even if its about domestic abuse against women anymore thanks to Amber spitting real female victims in the face. Her stunt backfired so hard she not only lost all credibility but also ironically helped males to speak up against domestic abuse which wasnt her plan.
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Jen0125
06/01/22 5:28:57 PM
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Red04 posted...
Amber spitting real female victims in the face

Amber is a real victim too. A court in the UK found it factual that Johnny Depp choked her and he admitted to punching her at least once.

Idk why you guys keep ignoring that. This was two toxic drug addicts victimizing each other.
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Kyuubi4269
06/01/22 5:29:51 PM
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Red04 posted...
I thought he won $15 million? Minus $2 million that Amber still has to pay Johnny. She gains nothing.

Does she even have the money?

Well she aint Gal Gadot-levels rich so who knows.

Can she even work off that money now that she's been laughed out of Hollywood

Through film income? Highly unlikely.

Can Heard be charged with criminal perjury?

Thats a possibility considering that she did in fact lie on the stand under oath. Everything recorded and witnessed of course.

Does this prove that we rrrrreeealllly need to "believe all women"....?

Not even if its about domestic abuse against women anymore thanks to Amber spitting real female victims in the face. Her stunt backfired so hard she not only lost all credibility but also ironically helped males to speak up against domestic abuse which wasnt her plan.

How did you manage to quote the OP but not read the second sentence.

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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 5:33:45 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
If she appeals the judgment gets put on hold. And she can't appeal all she wants there are specific grounds for appeal. I don't know if she has any but I'm sure her appeal attorneys are going to comb the transcripts of the side bars.

I hope she appeals citing inadequate representation if she can.

I don't think that's possible though. You can't go back and say "Oops my lawyers were terrible, hold the money, hold the show. Let's have a do-over!". Her lawyers is her problem, not Depp's.

In order to prove what you're saying, Heard would need to successfully sue her legal team for "inadequate representation". If a judge agrees, THEN she can appeal on those grounds. But again, the whole defense is based on "her (lol) story", which was proven against by a more adequate legal team. It's going to be a whole trial in of itself that Depp has no business waiting around for, his bucks won't stop for that.

And again, there is the possible perjury Heard will have to face as well.

...IMO, she 'could' go through with suing her lawyers to have a basis for appeal, while hiring a whole new team of lawyers to fight off the perjury charge. ...or still pay the $8.35million, and disappear, change her name and work at a random truck-stop diner for the rest of her life.
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wwinterj25
06/01/22 5:35:25 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Tim Burton wants him in "Beetlejuice 2"
Robert Downey Jr want him in "Sherlock Holmes 3"
Depp is in the UK right now, jamming with Jeff Beck.

His career is fucked?


Isn't Disney begging for him to return as Jack Sparrow too?

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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 5:35:42 PM
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Red04 posted...
I thought he won $15 million?

As said, he won $10 million for the lawsuit, and an extra $5 million for damages; but in the state the trial took place such damages can only be capped at $350,000....so Depp won $10,350,000 minus $2 million to Heard on her side of the countersuit.
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Metalsonic66
06/01/22 5:37:43 PM
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Jen0125
06/01/22 5:37:52 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...


I don't think that's possible though. You can't go back and say "Oops my lawyers were terrible, hold the money, hold the show. Let's have a do-over!". Her lawyers is her problem, not Depp's.

You could if your attorneys were insufficient procedurally. Didn't object when they should, etc.

She does not need to sue her team for inadequate representation she just needs an appeal attorney to petition the judge and for the judge to grant the appeal and a new trial. Do you know how trials work? A lot of what you're stating is not accurate and is completely false.

Raze_Razel posted...
And again, there is the possible perjury Heard will have to face as well

This doesn't mean anything in regards to what I'm talking about.

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Red04
06/01/22 5:38:05 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
As said, he won $10 million for the lawsuit, and an extra $5 million for damages; but in the state the trial took place such damages can only be capped at $350,000....so Depp won $10,350,000 minus $2 million to Heard on her side of the countersuit.
Thanks for clarifying, I did miss that detail in your OP.
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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 5:56:27 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Do you know how trials work?

Behave...k?

You could if your attorneys were insufficient procedurally. Didn't object when they should, etc.

She does not need to sue her team for inadequate representation she just needs an appeal attorney to petition the judge and for the judge to grant the appeal and a new trial... </snip> ...A lot of what you're stating is not accurate and is completely false.

How can it be false? It's common sense.

According to you, if the basis of her appeal is having incompetent lawyers, you're already looking at two separate trials already. One to prove against her lawyers, another to appeal the decision in favour of Depp. How can you prove the appeal, without proving your lawyers were incompetent in the first place? Things would need to happen in order, which would take time and money Heard doesn't have....and I'm betting its patience Depp won't give, since he's not involve with any of that.

This doesn't mean anything in regards to what I'm talking about.

It does. Mentioning of the possible perjury case will only add to the flavour of Heard's dilemma. The "incompetent lawyer" case, The "appeals" case, AND the "perjury" case?...And you're hoping she'll go through with all that? for what? On the small chance that Heard can keep her few millions left, if any?

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Zareth
06/01/22 5:59:19 PM
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Cool.
Can we get back to caring about important stuff, please?

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:01:10 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Behave...k?

It was a genuine question because you seem to be trying to speak from a place of knowledge but it's all incorrect.

Raze_Razel posted...
How can it be false? It's common sense.

You don't need a trial to prove incompetent counsel. That's where you're confused. The appeals lawyer will identify places of procedural error, ignorance or lack and then write a motion of appeal. There is no trial. If the judge agrees with the motion, they will grant the appeal. Whether it's a new trial or a lessened award. This is where you aren't understanding.

Your other misconception is that the appeal causes it to be a new case. It doesn't.
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streamofthesky
06/01/22 6:05:08 PM
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Glad he won. Finally some justice for the falsely accused.
Now finally her career is taking the shellacking that his did years ago on her word alone.

Jen0125 posted...
You could if your attorneys were insufficient procedurally. Didn't object when they should, etc.

She does not need to sue her team for inadequate representation she just needs an appeal attorney to petition the judge and for the judge to grant the appeal and a new trial. Do you know how trials work? A lot of what you're stating is not accurate and is completely false.
Depp should appeal his $2 million.
It was due to the actions of his lawyer, which he fired afterwards.
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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:06:40 PM
#23:


streamofthesky posted...
Depp should appeal his $2 million.
It was due to the actions of his lawyer, which he fired afterwards.

He may be able to.

He also is not falsely accused.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54779430

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Adam_Savage
06/01/22 6:15:16 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
You can't go back and say "Oops my lawyers were terrible, hold the money, hold the show. Let's have a do-over!". Her lawyers is her problem, not Depp's.

you uh, can.

that's the entire reason there's an appeal system

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Lokarin
06/01/22 6:16:22 PM
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If only state appointed counsel were so precise

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Gaawa_chan
06/01/22 6:26:42 PM
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I am not surprised. Her defense was terrible, and Depp's team made a clear effort to all but woo the court with their behavior; this is not the first case I've seen where being... I guess the word is "charming"? played a role in the outcome.

My own opinion, at this point, is that it was disgusting that this was so heavily publicized because it was obviously a form of weaponizing the public as retaliation. It is the reason I didn't comment on the case much at all. Oddly, I think it lowered my opinion of Depp more than it was before, especially because I ended up learning more about the legal case that this civil suit came from.

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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 6:31:49 PM
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wwinterj25 posted...
Isn't Disney begging for him to return as Jack Sparrow too?

Pirates 6 will suck with or without Depp....here's why....

"Captain America: Civil War" was a horribly made movie, because during the production, the studio wasn't sure if they could get all the Avengers and Spider-man to show up in the film. A lot of flip-flopping. A lot of editing and last minute CGI work turned the movie into a hodge-podge of a movie that could've been made better if they planned ahead.

...Pirates 6 is in no better situation. Disney fired Depp, when it was Disney's corporate mission to go woke with social media trends including the "MeToo Movement". They removed all traces of Depp's Sparrow from the marketing and rides. Cancelled him right out, while Disney moved ahead with Pirates 6. They hire Margot Robbie and the Rock; which mean all new characters, all new story. And no one gives a shit, because without Sparrow no one will care. But Disney's plan is to move along anyways to prove 'they don't need no wife-beating, cancelled Depp to make a Pirates movie work" .....except.... Disney sided with "the groomers" in that whole DeSantis' so-called "Don't' say Gay" bill, along with the failure of that Star Wars hotel, overall failed operations of their park, Disney stocks have been tanking big time (over an 80 point drop during the course of these debacles)...So now Disney is starving, and they have to do something, quick...

Now Depp is exonerated, could Disney ask him to come back?...Up to Depp. IMO, It's best for him to tell Disney to FO forever no matter how much money and alpacas are thrown at him. But if the answer is yes....what happens to the film they've set up for Robbie and the Rock so far?

They would have to shoehorn Sparrow's presence in the last minute like they did with Spiderman in Civil War. It would throw off the entire pace of the film, another hodge podge of WTFness made to obviously get Sparrow in the film at the expense of proper filmmaking, and telling a 'good' story. Unless Disney goes back to pre-production and start from the ground up to naturally bring Depp up through the process, which could bolster it's budget to twice that of a normally planned "box office blockbuster".... They'll just superimpose Sparrow after production at the expense of the story you're supposed to be invested in with Robbie and the Rock....the whole thing could fall apart on them.

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Adam_Savage
06/01/22 6:34:16 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Disney sided with "the groomers" in that whole DeSantis' so-called "Don't' say Gay" bill

yeah so now we know what person you are lmfao

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Metalsonic66
06/01/22 6:35:41 PM
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Civil War was one of the best superhero movies ever lol

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Zareth
06/01/22 6:37:39 PM
#30:


Raze_Razel posted...
Disney sided with "the groomers" in that whole DeSantis' so-called "Don't' say Gay" bill
LMAO my dude you just outed yourself as one of "those people"

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:38:33 PM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
My own opinion, at this point, is that it was disgusting that this was so heavily publicized because it was obviously a form of weaponizing the public as retaliation. It is the reason I didn't comment on the case much at all. Oddly, I think it lowered my opinion of Depp more than it was before, especially because I ended up learning more about the legal case that this civil suit came from.

This is basically my opinion word for word
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wwinterj25
06/01/22 6:38:48 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
IMO, It's best for him to tell Disney to FO forever no matter how much money and alpacas are thrown at him.

Agreed. PotC is dead without Depp but Disney screwed him over.

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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 6:40:15 PM
#33:


Adam_Savage posted...
you uh, can.

that's the entire reason there's an appeal system

Again, to appeal the decision that was in favour of Depp, you would have to question the competency of the the lawyers in the first place.... That's two separate trials to worry about. Two separate groups of the people.

Step #1) Sue her lawyers, prove they were stupid
Step #2) Appeal the decision in favour of Depp, citing the stupidity of her lawyers.

You can't just go through the appeal FIRST, citing stupid lawyers, when there is no proof that the lawyers were stupid in the first place. Maybe it's a sign that her case was so very weak, based on lies and personal drama. The lawyers couldn't make the magic happen anyways.

I'm not saying she can't appeal AT ALL... I'm saying she's got nothing to appeal with in the first place.

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Adam_Savage
06/01/22 6:40:53 PM
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jen already told you that that's completely wrong

not sure why you want to stay ignorant

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:41:41 PM
#35:


Why does this person keep talking about additional trials
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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 6:42:36 PM
#36:


Adam_Savage posted...
jen already told you that that's completely wrong

not sure why you want to stay ignorant

because she's just saying appeal, appeal, appeal, and not explaining anything else....that's ignorant.
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Adam_Savage
06/01/22 6:43:16 PM
#37:


Jen0125 posted...
You don't need a trial to prove incompetent counsel. That's where you're confused. The appeals lawyer will identify places of procedural error, ignorance or lack and then write a motion of appeal. There is no trial. If the judge agrees with the motion, they will grant the appeal. Whether it's a new trial or a lessened award. This is where you aren't understanding.

Your other misconception is that the appeal causes it to be a new case. It doesn't.

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:45:35 PM
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I don't understand. Do you not actually read things? I've written paragraphs as to why you're wrong.
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VampireCoyote
06/01/22 6:45:42 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Civil War was one of the best superhero movies ever lol


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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 6:46:39 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
Why does this person keep talking about additional trials

  1. Prove the lawyers were stupid
  2. Prove in the appeal against Depp based on proof she got that the lawyers were stupid
  3. All the while fighting a possible perjury case, because Heard is in fact a liar herself.....which then flies in the face of her case against her "stupid lawyers" because they probably weren't stupid, they just couldn't form a solid defense based on Heard's lies.


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Adam_Savage
06/01/22 6:48:09 PM
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none of that requires a new trial

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:48:32 PM
#43:


Adam_Savage posted...
none of that requires a new trial

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grimhilde00
06/01/22 6:48:53 PM
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pearls, swine

*waves hands*

OP

(to be clear cause Jen is a heathen who hasn't read her bible -- she was like ??? at me, I mean why are we bothering with someone who is not listening)

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Gaawa_chan
06/01/22 6:49:04 PM
#45:


Raze_Razel posted...
Now Depp is exonerated
He has not been. Guys come on... I was barely paying attention to this trial and even I know this. :-/

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:49:09 PM
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Like you obviously have some misogyny issues. Do you not want to read what I have to say because I'm a woman? I don't get it lol

She hasn't been charged with perjury either so I'm not sure why you keep talking about that hypothetical.
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Veedrock-
06/01/22 6:53:21 PM
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Jen's all "this case proves nothing while this other case proves everything!" Selective much?

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:53:37 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Jen's all "this case proves nothing while this other case proves everything!" Selective much?

Where did I say that?

I literally am just trying to provide all the facts that this was a mutually abusive relationship.
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Raze_Razel
06/01/22 6:53:39 PM
#49:


Adam_Savage posted...
none of that requires a new trial

Yes it would.

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Jen0125
06/01/22 6:54:22 PM
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Raze_Razel posted...
Yes it would.

Prove it then lmao. I actually work with the court system and know what I'm talking about. Do you?
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Adam_Savage
06/01/22 6:56:37 PM
#51:


Raze_Razel posted...


Yes it would.


no it doesn't

and i'm sure you're next going to post something that actually supports your claim, yes?

because i'm sure you can find one

i'll wait

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