Current Events > Thinking of going vegan, solely to claim moral superiority

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Been watching some vegan chefs on YouTube and the food looks pretty good

Someone told me to just try adding a meatless dinner once or twice a week and build from there

There are easier ways to be morally superior

It's not morally superior. We perhaps should cut back on how much meat we eat but eating meat is intentional by design as we are omnivores.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

It's not morally superior. We perhaps should cut back on how much meat we eat but eating meat is intentional by design as we are omnivores.

This is such a low iq take

'me ANIMAL ME EAT ANIMAL'

Do you give into every single natural instinct that pops into the ur head?

Eat the animals. Its better for you.

Like, even if we were "designed" to eat meat

Forgoing your natural instincts for the betterment of our earth and other animals literally makes you morally superior

Eh, I like meat too much. Not that it's a huge part of my diet anyway, but a juicy burger is just... great. I like fish, too, and eat it a couple times a week.

Lanzol posted...

Someone told me to just try adding a meatless dinner once or twice a week and build from there

I'd think it'd be better to do the reverse of that. You want to get used to shopping and cooking for your new diet and it will be hard to do that if you're only doing it for just one meal. If you're just doing it for that one meal, you'll never get an understanding of the cooking and shopping and not be able to understand how to scale it up.

Planning a specific diet for one meal a week is harder to me (leading to discouragement) than planning a specific diet for multiple meals a week.

Do the meat dinner once or twice a week, with the rest of the week being meatless. You avoid going giving meat up cold turkey, but it becomes a rarity that you can then phase out

Ya cheeseburgers are my fav food but impossible burgers are close enough to not bother me

And I saw a couple different replacements, seitan seems interesting.

Lanzol posted...

This is such a low iq take

'me ANIMAL ME EAT ANIMAL'

Do you give into every single natural instinct that pops into the ur head?

We literally have teeth designed for eating meat. Also I doubt we would have started eating meat otherwise. You don't typically see herbivores making a habit of eating other animals.

We just became over indulgent on it.

Lanzol posted...

Ya cheeseburgers are my fav food but impossible burgers are close enough to not bother me

And I saw a couple different replacements, seitan seems interesting.

I've had the impossible Whopper a couple times and couldn't tell the difference. But I don't think there's a good sub for fish. Nothing like a lightly seared ahi tuna steak or some salmon.

emblem boy posted...

I'd think it'd be better to do the reverse of that. You want to get used to shopping and cooking for your new diet and it will be hard to do that if you're only doing it for just one meal. If you're just doing it for that one meal, you'll never get an understanding of the cooking and shopping and not be able to understand how to scale it up.

Planning a specific diet for one meal a week is harder to me (leading to discouragement) than planning a specific diet for multiple meals a week.

Do the meat dinner once or twice a week, with the rest of the week being meatless. You avoid going giving meat up cold turkey, but it becomes a rarity that you can then phase out

going from a full "normal" diet to the restrictions of vegan is shocking, and it can be slightly dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

It's best to try a couple things, figure out what you like and slowly build into a full vegan lifestyle.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

We literally have teeth designed for eating meat. Also I doubt we would have started eating meat otherwise. You don't typically see herbivores making a habit of eating other animals.

We just became over indulgent on it.

Lol I have an innate natural urge to breed and you don't see me trying to have sex with every female in my proximity

The fact you cant grasp the concept is very telling

Lanzol posted...

Lol I have an innate natural urge to breed and you don't see me trying to have sex with every female in my proximity

The fact you cant grasp the concept is very telling

I see youre trolling. I won't respond further.

Lanzol posted...

Lol I have an innate natural urge to breed and you don't see me trying to have sex with every female in my proximity

The fact you cant grasp the concept is very telling

Eating meat is a necessity, having sex is not.

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Eating meat is a necessity, having sex is not.

I wouldn't say it's a necessity. Maybe you have to be more specific in your diet to make up for the lack of it. But it can be done

They kill me in the prison. Muslims eat meat but not pork so if the meal has pork they will give the Muslims a few slices of cheese in its place as their "protein" for the meal.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

I wouldn't say it's a necessity. Maybe you have to be more specific in your diet to make up for the lack of it. But it can be done

Takes too much work and can be a hassle to fine tune the non-meat eating lifestyle.

You'll need to keep your B12 up.

Questionmarktarius posted...

You'll need to keep your B12 up.

B12 isn't that hard to keep up anymore, only because it gained such a reputation as the "tough to get" nutrient for vegans that now it's fortified in just about everything

Iron and the Omega 3 fatty acids are harder to get..it's a good idea to keep Flax handy because Flax has a lot of nutrients that vegans otherwise struggle to get.

Lanzol posted...

Lol I have an innate natural urge to breed and you don't see me trying to have sex with every female in my proximity

The fact you cant grasp the concept is very telling

Didn't you admit to getting your sister pregnant?

The easier way is to just not buy the vegan hogwash and feel morally superior while consuming vast quantities of bull testicles.

TheHoldSteady posted...

B12 isn't that hard to keep up anymore, only because it gained such a reputation as the "tough to get" nutrient for vegans that now it's fortified in just about everything

Cyanocobalimin is garbage. Avoid it.

Lanzol posted...

Like, even if we were "designed" to eat meat

Forgoing your natural instincts for the betterment of our earth and other animals literally makes you morally superior

No, it's just stupid.

That's like saying fists are meant to hit thing, but you're going to be morally superior by using your palms. It's not gonna go your way when you need it to, and you're only doing it to feel like you could succeed that way

This comes from a man who was a vegetarian for 12 years. I quit 2 years ago.

Lanzol posted...

Been watching some vegan chefs on YouTube and the food looks pretty good

Someone told me to just try adding a meatless dinner once or twice a week and build from there

I applaud everyone who goes vegan regardless the reason. Less people eating mear is beneficial to the greater society ib a multitude of ways.

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Takes too much work and can be a hassle to fine tune the non-meat eating lifestyle.

Just saying it ain't a necessity otherwise I agree.

I remember I went on to r/Vegan once and got chewed out when I said being a dick wasn't a fundamental part of being a vegan.

I was told that the single most important part of being a vegan was the holier-than-thou douchery and otherwise I didn't really count, I was just "plant based" and wasn't good enough.

Thinking of going vegan, solely to claim moral superiority

There's an unfortunate amount of westerners who do it for that reason. They're usually the same people who sign up at a gym around January and cancel after 2 months of barely going because the attractive lifters keep ignoring them.

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Even dolo said it was a dumb motive.
Yet there's people who seriously will do it just for that clout. There's justifiable reasons people like that are a meme...

Sufferedphoneix posted...

It's not morally superior.

it objectively is. but doing it to be "superior" is silly. do it because it's the right thing to do for yourself, for the planet, and for innocent animals.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

eating meat is intentional by design as we are omnivores.

meat is absolutely not necessary to have a 100% healthy and balanced diet. at one point, we did "need" it, but we've evolved way past that.

scorpion41 posted...

Eat the animals. Its better for you.

incorrect. study after study links the consumption of animal products with higher rates of heart disease and cancer.

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https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.038813
https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/eating-red-meat-daily-triples-heart-disease-related-chemical
https://www.pcrm.org/news/health-nutrition/animal-products-increase-risk-heart-attack-and-stroke

i can find more if you're curious

Questionmarktarius posted...

You'll need to keep your B12 up.

correct. i highly recommend taking a vegan-specific multivitamin

More meat for me to eat.

If I die I'm dying eating the food I like. You do you.

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You said becoming vegan simply for the idea of moral superiority was "silly".

I agree.

Why do I have TC tagged as "cuddles with sister"

Sufferedphoneix posted...

We literally have teeth designed for eating meat.

I'm not vegan but lol no. All our ape/monkey cousins have giant fangs and they only eat fruit and plant fiber. We share a common ancestor and have a scaled down version of that because our mouths got tiny from cooking food.

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this is good advice. being 100% vegan is fucking hard. i was vegetarian for 3-4 months first, then started going more and more vegan. i dont call myself vegan because i still eat honey and use leather i previously purchased. i also don't avoid gelatin, or other animal industry by-products.

Vegetarian gets me my daily dose of moral superiority while still letting me eat ice cream.

Sufferedphoneix posted...

We literally have teeth designed for eating meat.

https://plantbasednews.org/opinion/are-humans-designed-to-eat-meat/

Compsognathus posted...

Vegetarian gets me my daily dose of moral superiority while still letting me eat ice cream.

it's definitely not the same, but plant-based frozen desserts have gotten pretty good. the brand "So Delicious" makes some really good ones. i especially like the salted caramel (cashew milk) and cookie dough (coconut milk) ones.

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will look for Nadamoo next time i'm at the grocery. the B&J i tried was almond milk based and lacked the level of creaminess i desire, but i only tried the cookie dough.

Honestly cheese is a bigger deal than ice cream to me. I've yet to have a good vegan cheese. Like sometimes it taste okay in itself but it still isn't cheese and doesn't hit the itch at all.

if i went vegan, it would be because of my health and well being, not to be a douche. lol

if anyone is curious about why i abandoned meat and eventually eggs and dairy, it's because of this.

WARNING: the video below contains graphic and disturbing content. it's horrible, but it's the real price paid for tasting yummy things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko

edit: and yes, vegan cheeze isn't great.

Insisting plant products disguise themselves at animal products is rather silly anyway.
https://www.delish.com/food-news/a28198683/arbys-marrot-vegetables-made-of-meat/