Board 8 > Toei Animation has made meme into reality. *Major DB Super-SH Spoilers*

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_PandaMaster_
06/11/22 8:27:54 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/8/1/AAfSXGAADU9Z.jpg

First, he was just a lad. Then he ascended! He was Super. Then he was Ultimate. Now? He is now.....BLANCO!
ESTO, ES EL FIN!!!!! GRANDE PADRE!!!!!

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CassandraCain
06/11/22 8:36:11 AM
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GO GOHAN! GO GOHAN!

I'm fully hype for this movie now.

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Radix
06/11/22 9:57:57 AM
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cant wait for el hermano in the next movie

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redrocket
06/11/22 10:02:25 AM
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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 10:09:22 AM
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redrocket posted...
@NominateMoogIes


Do you just want my comments on Gohan, or overall hype for the movie, or thoughts on spoilers, or what?
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GANON1025
06/11/22 10:11:44 AM
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If anyone is wondering about Goku and Vegetas involvement:

Theyre only in the movie for about ten minutes, and have no impact on the main plot. Also, part of their little side plot is apparently Vegeta beats Goku in a clean fight

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Pirateking2000
06/11/22 10:23:22 AM
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GANON1025 posted...
If anyone is wondering about Goku and Vegetas involvement:

Theyre only in the movie for about ten minutes, and have no impact on the main plot. Also, part of their little side plot is apparently Vegeta beats Goku in a clean fight

3-0 baby!

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swordz9
06/11/22 10:25:57 AM
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This movie sounds better and better the more I hear about it
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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 10:41:03 AM
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swordz9 posted...
This movie sounds better and better the more I hear about it

yeah. I went from not caring at all to being more hyped than Broly and RoF. (Though obviously not BoGs cause it was after a decade hiatus)

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redrocket
06/11/22 10:47:23 AM
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NominateMoogIes posted...
Do you just want my comments on Gohan, or overall hype for the movie, or thoughts on spoilers, or what?

first two

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swordz9
06/11/22 10:51:26 AM
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I cared from the moment the plot was announced since Gohan is awesome and Piccolo was being given some attention. Maybe theyll do something worthwhile with Pan too. The only downside Ive seen so far is Gohans default look. The glasses have always looked garbage on him and look even worse with his fighting outfit
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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 10:54:53 AM
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Well. I just gave you #2, so Ill do the Gohan one.

GOOD GOD FUCK YES!!!!!!

Inject this shit directly into my mother fucking veins!

Give me all of it. Im like Tony Montanya at his favorite desk, dont know where to start, its all great. Your boy eating good tonight, your boy eating like its 19 Fucking 93!!!

SSJ2 Kid Gohan is back!!!!!!

Also, the statements he made about his own power compared to others. Thats right.

THE MOTHERFUCKING KING IS BACK!!!!!!

Gohan is god damn #1, not up for debate. Canon fact.

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GANON1025
06/11/22 10:59:21 AM
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If people are wondering about a certain FighterZ character showing up

At the very least, theres a scene showing the Gero family tree. Geros wife, Vomi, is shown, and she looks exactly like Android 21s human form

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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 10:59:29 AM
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Does the form look stupid? Maybe (although its an obvious blatant homage to my favorite moment in anime, so Im probably gonna let this go.) Did they legitimately give a meme life? Sure did, I bow to you Padre Is it non sensical, sure Does it actually take a tire iron both to former power levels as well as the DBS canonicity as a whole? Yeah, probably. Do I care? Nope. Not one bit.

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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 11:00:46 AM
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GANON1025 posted...
If people are wondering about a certain FighterZ character showing up

At the very least, theres a scene showing the Gero family tree. Geros wife, Vomi, is shown, and she looks exactly like Android 21s human form


I think we all knew this was coming after DB Kakarot. Its still weird that it exist now in canon. But theyve done much worse, thats for sure.
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pjbasis
06/11/22 1:37:21 PM
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what's the meme

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Team Rocket Elite
06/11/22 1:41:50 PM
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I hope he gets added to Multiversus.

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Mewtwo59
06/11/22 1:46:19 PM
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GANON1025 posted...
If people are wondering about a certain FighterZ character showing up

At the very least, theres a scene showing the Gero family tree. Geros wife, Vomi, is shown, and she looks exactly like Android 21s human form

Does it also have his son who looks exactly like 16?

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GANON1025
06/11/22 1:59:44 PM
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Mewtwo59 posted...
Does it also have his son who looks exactly like 16?

yes

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redrocket
06/11/22 4:03:09 PM
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Wait how does this affect DBS canon

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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 4:06:28 PM
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redrocket posted...
Wait how does this affect DBS canon


It does not in anyway fit the manga. At all. Every last thing the manga was built on was torn to shreds in this movie. Everything Id say about it would be spoilers, but this movie doesnt fit in to the manga continuity. And thats obviously the Super manga, not the original run.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/11/22 4:10:57 PM
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How about the TV anime?

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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 4:16:12 PM
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
How about the TV anime?


Less so. There are still a couple things which dont allign perfectly of course. But the anime ones are lesser things or things you can be like in that situation they were able to do this but cant now. Where as the manga ones are things as egregious as he cant transform anymore, but in the manga timeline compared to the movie he did a few months ago

Its been obvious forever that Toriyamas outline and the movies were the true canon, so Im not surprised the anime and the movies dont line up some. Akira doesnt care what Toyotaro or Toei do at the end of the day, hes gonna tell the story he wants to tell.
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NominateMoogIes
06/11/22 4:18:37 PM
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Like, realistically one advantage the anime has is its no longer running. I assume if it was this movie would have stomped all over its continuity too. Its a lot harder to get things that dont fit on a 5 year old show that run anymore. Unless you are specifically trying to lessen it.
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GavsEvans123
06/12/22 8:39:46 AM
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Now we just need the return of Nappa so he can fuse with Gohan to become Naphan Verde!
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GANON1025
06/12/22 9:09:24 AM
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apparently in an interview, Toriyma admitted he forgot the name of the series is Dragon Ball Super, which is why the movie has two supers in it

"I guess everyone thought I had done it on purpose because nobody said anything"

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1535710396333494272

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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 9:14:19 AM
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GANON1025 posted...
apparently in an interview, Toriyma admitted he forgot the name of the series is Dragon Ball Super, which is why the movie has two supers in it

"I guess everyone thought I had done it on purpose because nobody said anything"

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1535710396333494272


Yup. Its amazing no one at Toei pushed back on it. But it also furthers this man does not give a fuck what the anime or manga do, he doesnt even know the name. To him its always been Dragonball, and he wont let anything stop whatever story he is trying to tell.

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swordz9
06/12/22 9:18:48 AM
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Toriyama is also the guy who forgets Super Saiyan forms and what color hair his characters have too. It feels like hes all about that paycheck and has quit giving any fucks whatsoever
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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 9:23:36 AM
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swordz9 posted...
Toriyama is also the guy who forgets Super Saiyan forms and what color hair his characters have too. It feels like hes all about that paycheck and has quit giving any fucks whatsoever

Nah. Hes always been like that. He literally forgot about the Sacred water one arc after it happened when he subverted the trope, so his editor had him give it a different name to distinguish the 2. And that second one was during his objective prime as a writer (King Piccolo arc to Cell). Dude forgot Launch. He initially meant to lessen her, not completely write her out, but he forgot. Launch was like the 8th main character in DB.

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swordz9
06/12/22 9:28:48 AM
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He forgets a lot of stuff about his own series. I mean in fairness its been going on for decades, but still it feels like hes either just super forgetful or never cared too much about the details (or both). Hell he apparently even mistook Super Saiyan 3 as Super Saiyan 2 for a while somehow. He once asked Who is Goten? as well and forgot 18 was a blonde. It honestly feels like he has Alzheimers when it comes to the series
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GavsEvans123
06/12/22 9:49:29 AM
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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 10:13:17 AM
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Also, the very last moment of the movie on Earth is a literal troll.

Straight up fuck Toriyama, this wasnt Toei just putting that in, that has Akira written all over it. Damn bastard.
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redrocket
06/12/22 11:25:43 AM
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NominateMoogIes posted...
Also, the very last moment of the movie on Earth is a literal troll.

Straight up fuck Toriyama, this wasnt Toei just putting that in, that has Akira written all over it. Damn bastard.

what was it?

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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 11:29:28 AM
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redrocket posted...
what was it?


The final Earth scene is Pan after she fully grasps flying, flying around, and we see it in first person for her, as she flies around the last thing she sees is Goten and Trunks (older obviously) doing the fusion dance, and they do it perfectly; and the movie fades out before they show what Gotenks older would finally look like. Bastard troll. He knows fans have been wanting to see that for literal decades.
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swordz9
06/12/22 11:32:18 AM
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Pretty sure said character already exists in DB Heroes so theyve been seen before. Just not in the main series is all
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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 11:35:12 AM
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swordz9 posted...
Pretty sure said character already exists in DB Heroes so theyve been seen before. Just not in the main series is all


Sure. But not in any of the official media, and not drawn by one of the main guys like Toriyama, Toyotaro, or the head animators at Toei. I assume that is what people meant. Also, to be fair, I cant imagine Toriyama even knows Super Dragon Ball Heores even exists
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redrocket
06/12/22 11:51:04 AM
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what even is canon anymore with this franchise

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ExThaNemesis
06/12/22 12:02:35 PM
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The next arc of the series is Jiren calling universe 7 for help.

El Hermano has arrived

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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 12:03:31 PM
#39:


redrocket posted...
what even is canon anymore with this franchise


The movies, Toriyamas outline Toriyama interviews as Word of God, Jakko adventures in space with Tights (whatever that was called) and DB Minus.

The only thing since the original run manga ended that is unequivocally canon are those. Anything that contradicts anything in those (unless from each other) is not the main story truth of what happened.

Yo Son Goku and Friends return or at least some version of Tarbles events have to be canon as well as Tarble is mentioned by name in one movie, and alluded to in Broly I believe.

Dragonball Kakarot, Dragonball Online, Super Manga and Super anime, as well as Neko Majin all have varying levels. Either written directly by Toriyama and then having certain parts of it adapted later, or the interpretations of his outline.

I live in constant fear that Chronoa will one day be brought into the movies; anime, or manga. When/If that day comes, all bets are off, at that moment well have a Star Wars like canon of tiers and such because Super Dragon Ball Heroes and Xenoverse have all made it clear alternate dimensions are real. But luckily that has never been out in an official source yet
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ExThaNemesis
06/12/22 1:15:24 PM
#40:


Whenever the canon question comes up for Dragonball specifically I'm always like "who cares?"

It's all about fights and transformations and such, canon should take a back seat. Make it all canon, I say.

I also really like a lot of the Xenoverse stuff too

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swordz9
06/12/22 1:18:32 PM
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Make it all canon is dangerous territory since GT shits all over almost anyone in the series and ruins them >_>
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ExThaNemesis
06/12/22 1:34:51 PM
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Everything but GT can be canon

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pjbasis
06/12/22 1:35:38 PM
#43:


redrocket posted...
what even is canon anymore with this franchise

What always was and always will be....

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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 2:07:28 PM
#44:


ExThaNemesis posted...
Everything but GT can be canon


GT cant fit in the main timeline anymore anyway. So if that stuff ever does become canon its alternate dimensions. GT Goku and Time Patrol Goku dont even come from the same GT a timeline for instance.
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Waluigi1
06/12/22 9:16:35 PM
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pjbasis posted...
what's the meme


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JonThePenguin
06/12/22 9:21:20 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/4/AADcu0AADVXE.jpg

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NominateMoogIes
06/12/22 9:23:07 PM
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JonThePenguin posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/2/4/AADcu0AADVXE.jpg


Still cant believe this is real.
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ninkendo
06/14/22 11:08:16 PM
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Dragon Ball Super Super Hero releases in US theaters on August 19th

they got Charles Martinet to voice Magenta of the Red Ribbon Army

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