Current Events > Apparently Sony's Kraven will be an animal lover and conservationist lol

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Smashingpmkns
06/21/22 3:10:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/MCU_Direct/status/1539062995602526208

Sony really can't get any of this shit right

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Southernfatman
06/21/22 3:14:05 PM
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Maybe "Kraven the Hunter" will hunt poachers now. Could work.

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Turbam
06/21/22 3:14:34 PM
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What does Kraven do in the comics?

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Smackems
06/21/22 3:14:40 PM
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Oh, more superhero

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Disengaged
06/21/22 3:14:53 PM
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Ehhh.... I'd be more inclined to agree with the can't get anything right if they didn't blatantly admit that the MCU Kraven was a departure here. Like if they were all pushing this as an authentic representation of Kraven from the comics, I'd definitely have a shitty taste in my mouth.

Now it's just up to, can they execute this departure well.

Turbam posted...
What does Kraven do in the comics?
He hunts.

Everything.

He hunts everything, he has hunted every animal on the face of the earth, (possibly the ocean too and some space things) and while it always talks about him hunting the most dangerous game to prove himself the apex predator, I am 100% convinced he's also got stuffed like, mice and armadillos n shit.

Since he hunted every beast imaginable and came out on top, he set his sights on the most dangerous game: man. Well, specifically, spiderman.

He's cousins with the chameleon.


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Smashingpmkns
06/21/22 3:16:08 PM
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Turbam posted...
What does Kraven do in the comics?
Hunts down big game with his bare hands lmao

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Baha05
06/21/22 3:16:57 PM
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Anything to please PETA

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Irony
06/21/22 3:17:16 PM
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Turbam posted...
What does Kraven do in the comics?
The opposite of what Sony is doing

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FortuneCookie
06/21/22 3:17:57 PM
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"Morbius is Sony's biggest misfire."

Kraven: "Hold my beer."
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brotrrwinner
06/21/22 3:18:09 PM
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"It's Kravin' time"

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Smashingpmkns
06/21/22 3:18:14 PM
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Disengaged posted...
Ehhh.... I'd be more inclined to agree with the can't get anything right if they didn't blatantly admit that the MCU Kraven was a departure here. Like if they were all pushing this as an authentic representation of Kraven from the comics, I'd definitely have a shitty taste in my mouth.

Now it's just up to, can they execute this departure well.
Every one of their Spiderman villain movies have been a departure from the characters comic book backgrounds and they have all been terrible.

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Baha05
06/21/22 3:20:51 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Every one of their Spiderman villain movies have been a departure from the characters comic book backgrounds and they have all been terrible.
Which is weird since they are pretty great in the actual Spider-Man films (Minus Eddie from the third movie but I blame that more on how scrawny the actor was and how Venom came across)

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Irony
06/21/22 3:22:44 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Every one of their Spiderman villain movies have been a departure from the characters comic book backgrounds and they have all been terrible.
Not so much a departure as they skipped them starting off as villains. Eddie Brock and Morbius start off as villains and become anti heroes.

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Disengaged
06/21/22 3:23:31 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Every one of their Spiderman villain movies have been a departure from the characters comic book backgrounds and they have all been terrible.

Only one I'm aware of is Mobius. Guess I'm not in the loop.

But hey, it's Kraven, when he wins.... We know there won't be any sequels!

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MarcoRubio
06/21/22 3:24:32 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
"Morbius is Sony's biggest misfire."

Kraven: "Hold my beer."

brotrrwinner posted...
"It's Kravin' time"


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Smashingpmkns
06/21/22 3:25:42 PM
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Baha05 posted...
Which is weird since they are pretty great in the actual Spider-Man films (Minus Eddie from the third movie but I blame that more on how scrawny the actor was and how Venom came across)
It's because they're making anti hero stories without any of the past events that turned them from villain to anti hero. They want a fast pass to their own "Spiderman" they can build a franchise around but they don't have it. And they're too cowardly to make a straight up villain movie.

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/21/22 3:27:30 PM
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Was just about to post about this lmao

An animal lover who is literally called the Hunter what the fuck lmao

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/21/22 3:37:57 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
It's because they're making anti hero stories without any of the past events that turned them from villain to anti hero. They want a fast pass to their own "Spiderman" they can build a franchise around but they don't have it. And they're too cowardly to make a straight up pvillain movie.

Honestly, this shit could almost work if they just...didn't try to make these straight up origin movies.

We already know this shit isn't MCU canon so they don't need to worry about fucking up the continuity of the Watts movies. They could just allude to a shared history with Spider-Man (vaguely so they can work out the details later and/or tie them in with The Amazing movies if necessary) and have their movies be the start of these villains going off and doing their own thing.

As of now, you have mediocre movies about a bunch of C-list villains (obv doesn't apply to Venom) that have no ties to Spider-Man and are too heroic to be their own Sinister Six. What's supposed to be the hook of these movies?

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ultimate reaver
06/21/22 3:41:36 PM
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morbius was a stupid idea, but i could almost see the character being interesting as a standalone enough to tell a story about

a solo kraven movie has no avenue to it that would not be terrible and boring

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Biofighter55
06/21/22 3:44:31 PM
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Theyre trying to make them redeemable and likable by not making them villains because if they do then they feel like people wont like the movies

which make the character subpar and people end up not liking them anyway

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/21/22 3:46:23 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
Theyre trying to make them redeemable and likable by not making them villains because if they do then they feel like people wont like the movies

which make the character subpar and people end up not liking them anyway

Movies would be 10 times better if they just let them be dicks

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Southernfatman
06/21/22 3:47:41 PM
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We need a prequel movie about The Kingpin. He'll be a cop.

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Irony
06/21/22 3:48:04 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
We need a prequel movie about The Kingpin. He'll be a cop.
Not only that, but black

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/21/22 3:48:49 PM
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Southernfatman posted...
We need a prequel movie about The Kingpin. He'll be a cop.

A cop dedicated to taking down organized crime...who will still be called The Kingpin

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hitokoriX
06/21/22 3:49:27 PM
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In some of the comics he does use animals to be fair

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Trumpo
06/21/22 3:50:56 PM
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Superhero movies are ww2 video game saturated

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Seaman_Prime
06/21/22 3:51:35 PM
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What, is he gonna go around punching pet owners?
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PoundGarden
06/21/22 3:56:11 PM
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It is possible to be an animal lover, care about conservation, and still be a hunter.

That's probably not going to be the case here, but it is possible.

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Jagr_68
06/21/22 4:02:50 PM
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brotrrwinner posted...
"It's Kravin' time"

"I Krave...morb plasma!"

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dave_is_slick
06/21/22 4:22:21 PM
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RchHomieQuanChi posted...
Was just about to post about this lmao

An animal lover who is literally called the Hunter what the fuck lmao
Steve Irwin.

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DeadBankerDream
06/21/22 4:23:42 PM
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Does Kraven have any sort of popular culture place among people who don't suckle up all them superhero things?

Seems like a weird movie choice to me.

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Ivynn
06/21/22 4:24:56 PM
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Irony posted...
The opposite of what Sony is doing

Perfectly put.

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Zikten
06/21/22 5:24:08 PM
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Turbam posted...
What does Kraven do in the comics?

Hunts Spider-Man

This going to suck. This character is not suitable to be changed to an anti hero. It doesn't work.
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Gobstoppers12
06/21/22 5:26:59 PM
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Is he gonna do a cross promotion with Krave cereal?

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Gobstoppers12
06/21/22 5:29:47 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Does Kraven have any sort of popular culture place among people who don't suckle up all them superhero things?

Seems like a weird movie choice to me.
It's just Sony trying to make use of their Spider-Man license as much as possible. They had a massive hit with Venom, so they must have mistakenly thought that "Spider-Man villain = easy money" without realizing that Venom on his own is a very popular character.

Morbius was another one of these misguided attempts. I wouldn't be shocked at this point if Kraven gets fucking canceled to cut losses lol

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Smashingpmkns
06/21/22 5:56:18 PM
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The dude wears a fucking lion pelt as a costume. He's not an animal lover he's a psychopath lol

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Ajiri
06/21/22 6:00:50 PM
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this is stupid asf....

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Zikten
06/21/22 6:07:49 PM
#38:


A heroic Kraven simply isn't Kraven anymore. Make him not evil, and you have already ruined the character beyond recognition
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EnterTheTekken
06/21/22 6:08:04 PM
#39:


It's some odd effort to build the Sinister Six that really needs to die a death. As great as Spider-Man is, his Rogues Gallery is filled with some lame fucking villains. They've gotten away with some character massaging with Vulture and Mysterio by molding them into the Stark world, but you can't keep doing that forever.

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Background_Guy
06/21/22 6:10:13 PM
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The problem is they're literally trying to make an entire cinematic universe based only on Spider-Man villains, but at the same time they think any movie with an actual villain main character will fail. At least Venom and Morbius are anti-heroes in the comics, as far as I know, Kraven's always just been a villain.
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Ajiri
06/21/22 6:10:51 PM
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no one is going to watch this shit

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Kimbos_Egg
06/21/22 6:10:53 PM
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why even fucking bother

its literally his ENTIRE CHARACTER!

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Background_Guy
06/21/22 6:11:58 PM
#43:


Biofighter55 posted...
Theyre trying to make them redeemable and likable by not making them villains because if they do then they feel like people wont like the movies

which make the character subpar and people end up not liking them anyway
Will somebody please tell the Sony execs about Joker? I think they just didn't notice that movie making a bunch of money lmao
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Smashingpmkns
06/21/22 6:13:01 PM
#44:


EnterTheTekken posted...
It's some odd effort to build the Sinister Six that really needs to die a death. As great as Spider-Man is, his Rogues Gallery is filled with some lame fucking villains. They've gotten away with some character massaging with Vulture and Mysterio by molding them into the Stark world, but you can't keep doing that forever.
Nah I think the Sinister Six could definitely work but you also need to do the work of introducing those characters competently. The MCU almost had it with the new Spiderman movie but they kinda bungled it for a few different reasons. Probably will be the closest thing we'll ever get though.

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Collat
06/21/22 6:24:29 PM
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"I am an animal lover."

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Gobstoppers12
06/21/22 6:25:55 PM
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Collat posted...
"I am an animal lover."

Says Kraven while wearing a lion's face as a shirt.
Trust me, dude, he was a really bad lion.

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Tom Clark
06/21/22 6:26:03 PM
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There's making changes to the character for the purpose of a new, wider audience - and that isn't necessarily a bad thing, and can even work pretty well - and then there's making the character the exact opposite of what they're supposed to be.

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Punished_Blinx
06/21/22 6:29:15 PM
#48:


brotrrwinner posted...
"It's Kravin' time"

I have a Kraving to beat up some bad guys!

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Kurt_Russel
06/21/22 6:33:40 PM
#49:


Irony posted...
The opposite of what Sony is doing
So true, its funny

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RchHomieQuanChi
06/21/22 6:35:13 PM
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Hey y'all do you want to watch the Carnage solo movie where he's a detective that chases down serial killers?

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