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g0ldie 07/07/22 11:37:15 PM #1: |
...Christian foster home: https://mobile.twitter.com/MaricopaAAPI/status/1544822892717715456 A Tennessee court has rejected a lawsuit by a Jewish couple suing the state government after being told that they couldn't undergo foster parent training through a publicly-supported Christian charity due to religious differences. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/noqoWTm ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 07/07/22 11:44:12 PM #2: |
well this is a shit show. i mean,of course a Christian foster house would only let the children adopted by christians. adoption is not the same with ordering a cake but on the other side, those kids need parents so would being adopted by non christians is worse than being an orphan? on another side, let's see who lost their shit if Muslims started adopting children from Christian foster house. --- You have the right to remain silent. Anything you posted will be misquoted, then be used against you. http://error1355.com/ce/Ricemills.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XxKrazyChaosxX 07/07/22 11:46:30 PM #3: |
I was expecting it to be cake shop. --- "I woke up at four am by accident in time for the paper to be delivered. Guess what? It's not a kid on a bike, it's a man in a car." - Kevin Malone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/07/22 11:47:10 PM #4: |
We going straight back to separate but equal --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 07/07/22 11:47:56 PM #5: |
We talked about this at work, an absolutely wild case. Christo fascists realized a few years ago that they couldn't get anywhere by calling other religions and sexualities/gender identities demon spawn in courts or in public opinion. It was too hateful and mask off. So now they argue to repeal basic civil rights and constitutional protections with the strongest sword available "religious rights" Now they can make blatantly bigoted arguments and win because not letting them discriminate is anti religion now. It's happening everywhere and the courts are gleefully facilitating it. It's disgusting and will set our society back decades, if not a century. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gigageek1500 07/07/22 11:49:23 PM #6: |
I could see this being OK if the Christian place is like the one place that gives that special Christian twist on it and that's why anyone picks them. I have a feeling the mere fact the Jewish couple applied here means that's not the case. I think the bar should be higher than Jews having just one option they can access. The bar should probably be tied to capacity/acceptance rates at the regional centers --- "Like you're standing in front of them with your hands behind your back, and then present a small ribbon-wrapped gift to them." Duskmon on the colon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ScazarMeltex 07/07/22 11:49:25 PM #7: |
Imagine having your brain be so poisoned by religion that the religion of the people adopting the kids is more important than having them be adopted. --- Furthermore, The GOP is a Fascist Organization and must be destroyed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CADE FOSTER 07/08/22 1:01:01 AM #8: |
ScazarMeltex posted... Imagine having your brain be so poisoned by religion that the religion of the people adopting the kids is more important than having them be adopted.This ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/08/22 11:42:31 AM #9: |
So the majority seems to be arguing that A) the couple got the services they wanted and B) they weren't using the services for foster children in TN. Neither seem (to me) very legally sound, though the second may be more technically applicable. Still, public funds being given for this program really changes how much religious discrimination is "allowed".. iirc, churches/religious groups offering free meals/food can have a prayer but can't require people to join in The majority ruled that the couple's complaint about the Holston Home for Children was inapplicable because they originally planned to foster a child in Florida, while Holston only handles in-state arrangements. "The contract the Department has with Holston provides funds only for services for children' in the custody of the State of Tennessee.' Thus the services the Couple sought from Holston are not funded by the Department and therefore lack a causal connection to the alleged injury," continued the majority. The panel majority also ruled that "the Plaintiffs have not shown that the Defendants would not contract with a Jewish agency similarly situated to Holston; therefore the Act does not single out people of the Jewish faith as a disfavored, innately inferior group." Chancellor Ellen Hobbs Lyle offered a partial dissent to the panel opinion's claim that the couple lacked "constitutional standing." "The foregoing law makes clear that the allegations in the Amended Complaint, such as the barriers the Couple faces now as foster parents and continue to face in obtaining the efficiencies and other benefits and advantages of working with private agencies, are sufficient to establish standing," reads the dissent. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 07/08/22 11:50:27 AM #11: |
Christians: "Please don't abort, put them up for adoption!" Also Christians: "NO ADOPTIONS!" --- Let's make biscuits! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/08/22 11:51:25 AM #12: |
Ruvan22 posted... "The foregoing law makes clear that the allegations in the Amended Complaint, such as the barriers the Couple faces now as foster parents and continue to face in obtaining the efficiencies and other benefits and advantages of working with private agencies, are sufficient to establish standing," reads the dissent.Stop throwing public money at private agencies, and this won't be an issue. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/08/22 12:55:38 PM #13: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Stop throwing public money at private agencies, and this won't be an issue. Quiet the people going into rage at "expanding the government" and doing that won't be an issue ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/08/22 12:56:51 PM #14: |
Ruvan22 posted... Quiet the people going into rage at "expanding the government" and doing that won't be an issue"Entitlement reform!! ...except, you know, my entitlements" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/08/22 1:03:03 PM #15: |
Questionmarktarius posted... "Entitlement reform!! ...except, you know, my entitlements" I... are you contradicting yourself? You state that if we stop giving public money to private groups, instances like this won't happen. I point out that is not realistic, given the steadfastness of some parties. Are you agreeing that it won't happen? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 07/08/22 1:09:10 PM #16: |
I love how people claim to have "Good Christian Values" when this is literally what Christian values are these days. Just hate, hate, and more fucking hate. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/08/22 1:11:13 PM #17: |
Ruvan22 posted... I... are you contradicting yourself?self-deprecating, maybe. You state that if we stop giving public money to private groups, instances like this won't happen. I point out that is not realistic, given the steadfastness of some parties. Are you agreeing that it won't happen?Either cut off the money-teat, or be damn stringent about the strings. Either way will involve complaints and lobbying otherwise. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ruvan22 07/08/22 7:13:44 PM #18: |
Questionmarktarius posted... self-deprecating, maybe. Ahh see now THAT context helps...
Agreed, but sadly the needle has moved towards the "given private religious agencies public money for public funds" side of the scale... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-Unowninator- 07/08/22 7:17:43 PM #19: |
This is fucking outrageous. I wish it were fake. --- Not changing this signature until I think of a better one. Stated 8/26/2021 Join the unknown: http://goo.gl/S75cmn ... Copied to Clipboard!
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