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Antifar
07/08/22 11:33:43 AM
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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/biden-team-rejected-emergency-declaration-over-roe-decision?context=search&index=0

The Biden administration considered declaring a public health emergency to preserve broad access to abortion services following the US Supreme Courts decision last month to overturn Roe v. Wade, but officials ultimately decided against the move, according to people familiar with the matter.

The possible declaration was discussed between top officials at the Health and Human Services Department and the White House ahead of a June 28 news conference by Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra, the people said. But officials set aside the idea due to concerns the impact wouldnt justify an inevitable legal battle.

At the news conference, Becerra publicly acknowledged the administration had little recourse for people in need of abortions in states that enacted bans.

There is no magic bullet -- but if theres something we can do, we will find it and we will do it, Becerra said.

The people familiar with the matter asked not to be identified because the administrations discussions have been private.

President Joe Biden and his administration have suffered intense criticism from liberal Democrats for their response to the Supreme Courts Roe decision, which eliminated the nationwide right to access abortion. While Biden has said he sympathizes with people denied access to the procedure in states where its outlawed, he has also said theres little he can do unless voters elect more members of Congress who support abortion rights.

Biden on Friday will announce an executive order requiring the health department to compile a report on its actions so far to ensure abortion access.

But progressives have demanded a far more forceful response from the White House. They want aggressive administrative action that would be all but certain to draw court challenges, like providing abortions on federal property, and a stronger push from Biden on Senate Democrats to pass a law legalizing abortion nationwide and even add justices to the Supreme Court.

The president is actively choosing inaction, said Renee Bracey Sherman, founder and executive director of We Testify, an advocacy organization representing people that have had abortions.

Biden has said he would support passage of a law codifying the protections of Roe but that he does not want to expand the court. One administration official said Bidens team is still considering a wide range of options on abortion access, including an emergency declaration.

Becerra said in an interview last week that the administration must move cautiously in the wake of the Supreme Court decision ending Roe.

Anything we do, we know were going to be in court the next day, he said. And so we have to make it stick. Were not going to over-promise because the worst thing you can do is over-promise early.

Had the federal government declared a public health emergency, Becerras department would have gained new powers for an indefinite period. For example, abortion rights advocates say Becerra could have ordered that medication abortion can be prescribed across state lines, or even moved to shield doctors from legal liability for performing abortions in states that outlaw the procedure.

But White House aides and some HHS officials were concerned the declaration wouldnt make a substantial impact, that it might be seen merely as a public relations maneuver and that it would draw lawsuits, according to the people familiar with the matter. Some officials were also concerned that a public health emergency declaration over abortion would take money from Covid-19 programs, which are funded in part under an emergency declaration for the pandemic.
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But abortion rights advocates say the Biden administration should take its chances, given the grave stakes.

There might be risk with some of these ideas, said Morgan Hopkins, interm executive director of campaign and strategies for the advocacy group All Above All. But she added: The urgency of their action needs to meet the urgency of the moment.

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ScazarMeltex
07/08/22 11:37:53 AM
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Useless fucks, the whole lot of them.

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DespondentDeity
07/08/22 11:38:46 AM
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God I wish I could laugh at this shit.

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ChopinList
07/08/22 11:40:11 AM
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This is so sad. The ruling leaked weeks before it became official and Biden still had no plan wtf.

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Giant_Aspirin
07/08/22 11:40:17 AM
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that headline basically summarizes the Democratic Party

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jpenny2
07/08/22 11:41:06 AM
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Doing something would go against everything they stand for.

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Maeiv
07/08/22 11:41:26 AM
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Good luck on the midterms Democrats.

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The_Popo
07/08/22 11:42:42 AM
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Democrats when elected:

https://youtu.be/E5-igZa8jws

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TheGoldenEel
07/08/22 11:43:53 AM
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But White House aides and some HHS officials were concerned the declaration wouldnt make a substantial impact, that it might be seen merely as a public relations maneuver

yea god forbid they make it seem like they care

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UnholyMudcrab
07/08/22 11:44:01 AM
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Friends, don't let this abrogation of rights get you down. Let's all join in a rousing rendition of God Bless America, to make the bad feelings go away

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mustachedmystic
07/08/22 11:44:28 AM
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lOTyUfOHgas

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/22 11:45:49 AM
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There's not a whole hell of a lot that can be done, other than a National Minimum Drinking Age Act style of "or else!" withdrawing the federal money-teat. Probably not within the scope of EO anyway.
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Funkydog
07/08/22 11:51:58 AM
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Well as long as they considered doing something, then what does it matter they didn't?

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/22 11:53:18 AM
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Funkydog posted...
Well as long as they considered doing something, then what does it matter they didn't?
This seems relevant:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc22CFhDBEM
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Srk700
07/08/22 11:57:02 AM
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Are they going to still be considering doing something when the GOP shitheads are the process of winning the midterms?
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tripleh213
07/08/22 11:57:47 AM
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Democrats definitely losing midterms

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Maze_
07/08/22 12:00:23 PM
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This is absolutely pathetic

We have one party that is anti-reality and evil

And the other that is useless.

It's beyond satire at this point.

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lilORANG
07/08/22 12:02:55 PM
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https://finance.yahoo.com/m/6e5c345d-10af-33a5-b421-4199a4ce6051/biden-to-sign-executive-order.html

Imagine crying about actual fake news

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Solar_Crimson
07/08/22 12:03:23 PM
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And yet, we have to vote for these guys to try to stop--or rather, stall--the Christo-Fascist takeover of America.

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Ruvan22
07/08/22 12:53:23 PM
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lilORANG posted...
https://finance.yahoo.com/m/6e5c345d-10af-33a5-b421-4199a4ce6051/biden-to-sign-executive-order.html

Imagine crying about actual fake news

I *think* the news article in the first post is more recent, but I'm not sure if that translates into actual updates
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Questionmarktarius
07/08/22 1:19:02 PM
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There's a redundant thread about this, but the only source for what the EO actually does is a Whitehouse statement:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/07/08/
fact-sheet-president-biden-to-sign-executive-order-protecting-
access-to-reproductive-health-care-services/

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Vanished
07/08/22 1:19:59 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
And yet, we have to vote for these guys to try to stop--or rather, stall--the Christo-Fascist takeover of America.

Or you could try and convince others to change the system by thinking of ways to introduce third parties.

I've talked about this before on 261, Demos will stay useless so long as they know you'll vote for them. THIS is "vote for the lesser of two evils" in action.
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PatrickMahomes
07/08/22 1:24:30 PM
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That would be an egregious misuse of that power.

And don't get this twisted, I'm totally pro abortion and pro codifying or whatever it takes to get the rights protected.

But declaring a public health emergency is patently the wrong way to go about it.

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Smashingpmkns
07/08/22 1:25:39 PM
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They had a whole ass month to plan literally anything and they decided to do nothing instead.

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/22 1:25:55 PM
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Vanished posted...
Or you could try and convince others to change the system by thinking of ways to introduce third parties.
There wasn't supposed to be parties. It's only Adams and Jefferson ceaselessly going "no u!" that we have two nominally-opposing parties running everything.
All that really changes, is the names of those two parties.
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TheGoldenEel
07/08/22 1:26:27 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
That would be an egregious misuse of that power.

And don't get this twisted, I'm totally pro abortion and pro codifying or whatever it takes to get the rights protected.

But declaring a public health emergency is patently the wrong way to go about it.
It is absolutely, 100% a public health emergency

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Questionmarktarius
07/08/22 1:28:45 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
It is absolutely, 100% a public health emergency
This is how the very ability to declare a "health emergency" goes away.
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DarthAragorn
07/08/22 1:28:47 PM
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Vanished posted...
Or you could try and convince others to change the system by thinking of ways to introduce third parties.

I've talked about this before on 261, Demos will stay useless so long as they know you'll vote for them. THIS is "vote for the lesser of two evils" in action.
Voting for third parties is a great way to make sure the fascist takeover happens!

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TheGoldenEel
07/08/22 1:30:11 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
This is how the very ability to declare a "health emergency" goes away.
Tell that to the women who will die if they are unable to get an abortion

there have been reports of ectopic pregnancy abortions being canceled or postponed in my home state of wisconsin

is lack of access to life saving healthcare not a public health emergency?

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Vanished
07/08/22 1:31:03 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Voting for third parties is a great way to make sure the fascist takeover happens!

Which is why you change the system, as I said and you seemingly missed.

You and other American voters are going to be stuck with this problem of "only being able to vote for" a "fascist" party and "weak" party for a long time unless you fight to change the system, you realize that right?
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legendary_zell
07/08/22 1:33:48 PM
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The Biden admin needs to realize the courts have been weaponized and right wing activists will sue over anything they even think of doing that could help anyone anywhere. They need to worry about being seen fighting, doing things that could help and being stopped is much better than doing nothing at all because then it looks like....you're doing nothing at all.

Start pressing buttons. Shake the machine. Flip the table.

Anything else is a march directly to defeat.

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gigageek1500
07/08/22 1:39:27 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Voting for third parties is a great way to make sure the fascist takeover happens!
It depends on the election. Vote progressive in primaries. Get a third party candidate to go viral for a local or state office. But for this coming US Congress general election? Voting third party is hopeless and will make sure the fascist takeover happens.

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