Board 8 > Remember Chao Gardens?

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_PandaMaster_ 07/15/22 1:47:08 PM #1:	Awesome. Love seeing the little Chao grow up! --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAdFc_AAApBB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Em9Xlbu.jpg [#Life&Hometown] https://i.imgtc.com/790csbr.jpg <cite>_PandaMaster_ posted [p:966595614] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Awesome. Love seeing the little Chao grow up! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/15/22 1:47:42 PM #2:	Never got into it --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:966595625] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Never got into it </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 07/15/22 2:08:06 PM #3:	Chao Gardens are a pretty large part of why SA2 is my fav in the series. --- Very slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. <cite>andylt posted [p:966596092] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Chao Gardens are a pretty large part of why SA2 is my fav in the series. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STElNER 07/15/22 2:22:01 PM #4:	i wish chao gardens were a concept they continued to iterate on <cite>STElNER posted [p:966596386] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>i wish chao gardens were a concept they continued to iterate on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 07/15/22 2:22:38 PM #5:	andylt posted... Chao Gardens are a pretty large part of why SA2 is my fav in the series. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:966596405] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>andylt posted... </cite> <quote>Chao Gardens are a pretty large part of why SA2 is my fav in the series.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_PandaMaster_ 07/15/22 4:19:07 PM #6:	STElNER posted... i wish chao gardens were a concept they continued to iterate on --- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/1/AAdFc_AAApBB.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Em9Xlbu.jpg [#Life&Hometown] https://i.imgtc.com/790csbr.jpg <cite>_PandaMaster_ posted [p:966599139] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>STElNER posted... </cite> <quote>i wish chao gardens were a concept they continued to iterate on</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 07/15/22 5:09:28 PM #7:	Chao Gardens was cool. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:966600280] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Chao Gardens was cool. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 07/15/22 5:37:39 PM #8:	Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic It's just a shitty minigame that I wish didn't exist as it's a waste of time --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:966600921] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic It's just a shitty minigame that I wish didn't exist as it's a waste of time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kamekguy 07/15/22 5:46:25 PM #9:	Why yes, I made a vid on why it's so good! https://youtu.be/dD1zuuUH2gI tl;dw though is that I love the concept as an extension of Sonic's replayability. Works really, really well as a passive reward for learning stages and grinding out emblems, definitely a reason why so many latch onto SA2 in specific. --- Mario Vs Cloud 2002: A Video Retrospective - https://youtu.be/1dx4t6H_K9Y Full Channel Available Here!: https://www.youtube.com/c/designingfor <cite>Kamekguy posted [p:966601101] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Why yes, I made a vid on why it's so good! https://youtu.be/dD1zuuUH2gI tl;dw though is that I love the concept as an extension of Sonic's replayability. Works really, really well as a passive reward for learning stages and grinding out emblems, definitely a reason why so many latch onto SA2 in specific. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 5:50:30 PM #10:	Nanis23 posted... Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic It's just a shitty minigame that I wish didn't exist as it's a waste of time "I hate optional things that other people like because I have to always be miserable grrrr" --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966601197] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite> <quote>Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic It's just a shitty minigame that I wish didn't exist as it's a waste of time</quote> "I hate optional things that other people like because I have to always be miserable grrrr" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 07/15/22 6:12:26 PM #11:	StealThisSheen posted... "I hate optional things that other people like because I have to always be miserable grrrr" No I am just fed up with hearing this in the last month or so I have no idea why people decided to bring that up so much lately Also I am not sure it was optional, IIRC you had to do the Chao races to get some emblems so... --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:966601726] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>"I hate optional things that other people like because I have to always be miserable grrrr"</quote>No I am just fed up with hearing this in the last month or so I have no idea why people decided to bring that up so much lately Also I am not sure it was optional, IIRC you had to do the Chao races to get some emblems so... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 6:14:06 PM #12:	Nanis23 posted... No I am just fed up with hearing this in the last month or so I have no idea why people decided to bring that up so much lately Also I am not sure it was optional, IIRC you had to do the Chao races to get some emblems so... So, in other words, optional, since 100%ing a game pretty much always involves doing optional things. People are bringing it up because we're getting close to a new Sonic game coming out again, and they want to talk about things they liked from previous games, as usually happens. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966601752] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite> <quote>No I am just fed up with hearing this in the last month or so I have no idea why people decided to bring that up so much lately Also I am not sure it was optional, IIRC you had to do the Chao races to get some emblems so...</quote> So, in other words, optional, since 100%ing a game pretty much always involves doing optional things. People are bringing it up because we're getting close to a new Sonic game coming out again, and they want to talk about things they liked from previous games, as usually happens. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 07/15/22 7:00:21 PM #13:	StealThisSheen posted... So, in other words, optional, since 100%ing a game pretty much always involves doing optional things. There's content locked behind getting all emblems, though. I don't like Chao Garden, and their existence pretty much meant I'd never get to any of that. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:966602811] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>So, in other words, optional, since 100%ing a game pretty much always involves doing optional things.</quote> There's content locked behind getting all emblems, though. I don't like Chao Garden, and their existence pretty much meant I'd never get to any of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 07/15/22 7:07:39 PM #14:	Nanis23 posted... No I am just fed up with hearing this in the last month or so You're fed up with people liking things that you don't? Yeah that tracks for you. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:966602982] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite> <quote>No I am just fed up with hearing this in the last month or so </quote> You're fed up with people liking things that you don't? Yeah that tracks for you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Murphiroth 07/15/22 7:08:51 PM #15:	I'm honestly shocked Sega hasn't brought this back and turned it into a mobile gacha game. Same with Yakuza's hostess game from Y0 and Kiwami 2, they'd make bank off both of those I think. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:966603011] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>I'm honestly shocked Sega hasn't brought this back and turned it into a mobile gacha game. Same with Yakuza's hostess game from Y0 and Kiwami 2, they'd make bank off both of those I think. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 7:08:53 PM #16:	Xeybozn posted... There's content locked behind getting all emblems, though. I don't like Chao Garden, and their existence pretty much meant I'd never get to any of that. There's content locked behind optional things in other games, too. If you don't need to do it to beat the game, it's optional. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966603015] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted... </cite> <quote>There's content locked behind getting all emblems, though. I don't like Chao Garden, and their existence pretty much meant I'd never get to any of that.</quote> There's content locked behind optional things in other games, too. If you don't need to do it to beat the game, it's optional. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 07/15/22 7:30:50 PM #17:	StealThisSheen posted... So, in other words, optional, since 100%ing a game pretty much always involves doing optional things. The problem is, and it applies to many other games, is that sometimes getting 100% requires doing minigames that are very different from the main game and it sucks more often than not This applies to FFVII Chocobo Racing and breeding too Also relevant is that I am currently doing a Assassin's Creed marathon and AC3 and AC4 requires me playing (and beating the AI) some board games as a minigame Playing checkers...yay Minigames suck --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:966603512] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>So, in other words, optional, since 100%ing a game pretty much always involves doing optional things.</quote>The problem is, and it applies to many other games, is that sometimes getting 100% requires doing minigames that are very different from the main game and it sucks more often than not This applies to FFVII Chocobo Racing and breeding too Also relevant is that I am currently doing a Assassin's Creed marathon and AC3 and AC4 requires me playing (and beating the AI) some board games as a minigame Playing checkers...yay Minigames suck </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 07/15/22 7:42:04 PM #18:	Oh my god don't do 100% completion if it sucks Kill the gamer that lives inside your brain --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:966603766] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Oh my god don't do 100% completion if it sucks Kill the gamer that lives inside your brain </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 7:45:07 PM #19:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Oh my god don't do 100% completion if it sucks Kill the gamer that lives inside your brain This, 100%. If you aren't enjoying the process to 100%, just don't do 100%. Fight the urge, stand up for what you truly enjoy. You don't have to 100% everything. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966603841] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>Oh my god don't do 100% completion if it sucks Kill the gamer that lives inside your brain</quote> This, 100%. If you aren't enjoying the process to 100%, just don't do 100%. Fight the urge, stand up for what you truly enjoy. You don't have to 100% everything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Chao 07/15/22 7:49:44 PM #20:	Listen, we get it, it's an unfortunate fact that we're forced to play a Sonic game in order to fully enjoy the experience of Chao Garden 2. But the rest of us all came to terms to this 20+ years ago. Just accept it and move on and let other people play the game. <cite>Chao posted [p:966603947] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Listen, we get it, it's an unfortunate fact that we're forced to play a Sonic game in order to fully enjoy the experience of Chao Garden 2. But the rest of us all came to terms to this 20+ years ago. Just accept it and move on and let other people play the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 07/15/22 7:58:25 PM #21:	Chao posted... Listen, we get it, it's an unfortunate fact that we're forced to play a Sonic game in order to fully enjoy the experience of Chao Garden 2. But the rest of us all came to terms to this 20+ years ago. Just accept it and move on and let other people play the game. Now I'm imagining a whole Chao subseries that eclipses Sonic like Rabbids did to Rayman... --- Very slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. <cite>andylt posted [p:966604099] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Chao posted... </cite> <quote>Listen, we get it, it's an unfortunate fact that we're forced to play a Sonic game in order to fully enjoy the experience of Chao Garden 2. But the rest of us all came to terms to this 20+ years ago. Just accept it and move on and let other people play the game.</quote>Now I'm imagining a whole Chao subseries that eclipses Sonic like Rabbids did to Rayman... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 07/15/22 8:09:10 PM #22:	Nanis23 posted... Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic It's just a shitty minigame that I wish didn't exist as it's a waste of time is this the most nanis take ever --- Chilly McFreeze https://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:966604340] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite> <quote>Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic It's just a shitty minigame that I wish didn't exist as it's a waste of time</quote>is this the most nanis take ever </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 07/15/22 8:15:41 PM #23:	StealThisSheen posted... This, 100%. If you aren't enjoying the process to 100%, just don't do 100%. Fight the urge, stand up for what you truly enjoy. You don't have to 100% everything. I mean, I like the Chao garden but it is definitely a flaw when a game locks good content behind a shit minigame, and that really has nothing to do with being a completionist or not. --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:966604487] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted... </cite> <quote>This, 100%. If you aren't enjoying the process to 100%, just don't do 100%. Fight the urge, stand up for what you truly enjoy. You don't have to 100% everything.</quote>I mean, I like the Chao garden but it is definitely a flaw when a game locks good content behind a shit minigame, and that really has nothing to do with being a completionist or not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 9:12:38 PM #24:	Kenri posted... I mean, I like the Chao garden but it is definitely a flaw when a game locks good content behind a shit minigame, and that really has nothing to do with being a completionist or not. Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't the locked content basically just one half-assed Green Hill stage that doesn't really count for anything? --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966605751] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Kenri posted... </cite> <quote>I mean, I like the Chao garden but it is definitely a flaw when a game locks good content behind a shit minigame, and that really has nothing to do with being a completionist or not.</quote> Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't the locked content basically just one half-assed Green Hill stage that doesn't really count for anything? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 07/15/22 9:13:22 PM #25:	"Half-assed" is giving too much credit. Quarter-assed, maybe. --- Chilly McFreeze https://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:966605769] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>"Half-assed" is giving too much credit. Quarter-assed, maybe. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/15/22 9:15:13 PM #26:	Pretty much. I stand by the idea that if it isn't required to beat the game, it's "optional" content. Like, yeah, there's a stage locked behind getting all emblems. But if I remember correctly, that stage itself doesn't count for anything when it comes to unlocking further content, and is basically a half/"quater"-assed "reward" for 100%ing the game. --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966605808] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Pretty much. I stand by the idea that if it isn't required to beat the game, it's "optional" content. Like, yeah, there's a stage locked behind getting all emblems. But if I remember correctly, that stage itself doesn't count for anything when it comes to unlocking further content, and is basically a half/"quater"-assed "reward" for 100%ing the game. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 07/15/22 9:15:17 PM #27:	ya sure i 'member I got really into it as a kid but despite playing through SA2 several times as an adult I never really went back to the Chao Garden and I don't particularly care if it comes back or not. It's a cool concept but not exactly something I want to use my time on at this point Music is top notch though --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame <cite>MZero posted [p:966605810] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>ya sure i 'member I got really into it as a kid but despite playing through SA2 several times as an adult I never really went back to the Chao Garden and I don't particularly care if it comes back or not. It's a cool concept but not exactly something I want to use my time on at this point Music is top notch though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 07/15/22 10:15:04 PM #28:	I blame Chao Garden for Sega wanting to remake Green Hill in every Sonic game --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:966607004] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>I blame Chao Garden for Sega wanting to remake Green Hill in every Sonic game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
STElNER 07/16/22 4:39:28 AM #29:	Nanis23 posted... Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic how could i have been nostalgic when i loved it in 2002 <cite>STElNER posted [p:966611986] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Nanis23 posted... </cite> <quote>Chao are overrated and are only good for people who are nostalgic</quote> how could i have been nostalgic when i loved it in 2002 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
banananor 07/16/22 10:55:23 AM #30:	The chao garden was pretty cool and nostalgic Recently, the Internet collectively decided Sonic frontiers absolutely needs a chao garden But! if they actually put one in I just know the players will dunk on how bare bones it is, even if it's exactly the same or better than the sa2 version. Feels like there's no winning, and I'm preemptively annoyed that there's no winning for the devs Now that I type it out, it's a stupid thing to be bothered by --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. <cite>banananor posted [p:966615760] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>The chao garden was pretty cool and nostalgic Recently, the Internet collectively decided Sonic frontiers absolutely needs a chao garden But! if they actually put one in I just know the players will dunk on how bare bones it is, even if it's exactly the same or better than the sa2 version. Feels like there's no winning, and I'm preemptively annoyed that there's no winning for the devs Now that I type it out, it's a stupid thing to be bothered by </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 07/16/22 3:17:52 PM #31:	Well maybe they really should because Frontiers looks pretty barebones and it might give more reasons to play in the overworld --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:966620717] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Well maybe they really should because Frontiers looks pretty barebones and it might give more reasons to play in the overworld </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HanOfTheNekos 07/16/22 3:38:22 PM #32:	Yeah, Chao Garden might have just been lightning in a bottle for SA2. They probably could create a new one, but if they did, they'd need to go all-out and hire the Stardew Valley guy or some shit. As is, it won't be as good as the original for the game it's in. I replayed through SA:2 recently, and while I loved the Chao so much as a kid and still like it, I used a cheat program to upgrade my Chao and design them how I like. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:966621121] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, Chao Garden might have just been lightning in a bottle for SA2. They probably could create a new one, but if they did, they'd need to go all-out and hire the Stardew Valley guy or some shit. As is, it won't be as good as the original for the game it's in. I replayed through SA:2 recently, and while I loved the Chao so much as a kid and still like it, I used a cheat program to upgrade my Chao and design them how I like. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CelesMyUserName 07/16/22 5:15:48 PM #33:	andylt posted... Chao Gardens are a pretty large part of why SA2 is my fav in the series. ^ --- https://imgtc.ws/i/1LkkaGU.jpg somethin somethin hung somethin horse somethin <cite>CelesMyUserName posted [p:966623065] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>andylt posted... </cite> <quote>Chao Gardens are a pretty large part of why SA2 is my fav in the series.</quote>^ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tgs2 07/16/22 5:31:11 PM #34:	I remember a time when I didn't know about the reusable item glitches so I just did City Escape Mission 3 for 999 rings to buy mass amounts of Chao Fruit to level everything at once. I had way too much fun taking four chao and watching them race each other. <cite>tgs2 posted [p:966623328] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>I remember a time when I didn't know about the reusable item glitches so I just did City Escape Mission 3 for 999 rings to buy mass amounts of Chao Fruit to level everything at once. I had way too much fun taking four chao and watching them race each other. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 07/16/22 6:49:06 PM #35:	StealThisSheen posted... Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't the locked content basically just one half-assed Green Hill stage that doesn't really count for anything? In SA2, yes. I never cared about that, but having some of the Game Gear games in SADX locked behind them was annoying. Luckily, all the high emblem count locked games either suck or ended up in Gems Collection. It's still not great that Chao Garden was required to unlock them. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:966624769] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>StealThisSheen posted...</cite> <quote>Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't the locked content basically just one half-assed Green Hill stage that doesn't really count for anything? </quote> In SA2, yes. I never cared about that, but having some of the Game Gear games in SADX locked behind them was annoying. Luckily, all the high emblem count locked games either suck or ended up in Gems Collection. It's still not great that Chao Garden was required to unlock them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StealThisSheen 07/16/22 6:57:51 PM #36:	Xeybozn posted... In SA2, yes. I never cared about that, but having some of the Game Gear games in SADX locked behind them was annoying. Luckily, all the high emblem count locked games either suck or ended up in Gems Collection. It's still not great that Chao Garden was required to unlock them. Even then, didn't the Chao Garden only give five emblems, which meant you only needed to do it to get the reward for all emblems, which was... ~~Tails Adventure.~~ --- Seplito Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! <cite>StealThisSheen posted [p:966624928] in Remember C... [t:80095328]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted... </cite> <quote>In SA2, yes. I never cared about that, but having some of the Game Gear games in SADX locked behind them was annoying. Luckily, all the high emblem count locked games either suck or ended up in Gems Collection. It's still not great that Chao Garden was required to unlock them.</quote> Even then, didn't the Chao Garden only give five emblems, which meant you only needed to do it to get the reward for all emblems, which was... Tails Adventure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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