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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:31:43 PM
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Explain it to me like I failed sex ed and Im a 7 year old


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Nerevar791
07/16/22 4:32:00 PM
#52:


Didn't read the topic because I literally just googled your name and that post came up, as I said.

And crying about "shoving it in the gamer's face" is still whiny bigoted bs

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CobraGT
07/16/22 4:32:16 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
i believe it too shock, i hear a lot of complaints about conditions and correctional officer abuse. It's really quite sad and she didn't deserve that treatment and going to the GSYCF is pretty much a death sentence. A lot of bad dudes up in there who are young and don't care about anything. Maybe her attorney can file a change of custody motion


Really? There were complaint that father responsible for death of son should go to big boy prison instead.

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If you kill your child you deserve to be in the big boy prison said Diane Succio, a vocal member of the Creato Trial Discussion Group on Facebook since the group began, who likened the youth facility to a picnic compared to other prisons for older inmates
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Thaumaturges
07/16/22 4:33:51 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
Do you have a solution to that other than eugenics or gender-based discrimination?
Solitary. Chastity belt.

Nerevar791 posted...
And pregnant people can be arrested and go to prison too, you realize. Maybe you don't actually care about the pregnancy that much, but about attacking trans people.
That has nothing to do with the fact that one inmate biologically should not be able to impregnate another inmate in a women's prison. FULL STOP. Maybe you should shut the fuck up.
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Nerevar791
07/16/22 4:34:40 PM
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Thaumaturges posted...
That has nothing to do with the fact that one inmate biologically should not be able to impregnate another inmate in a prison. FULL STOP.
Why is that a fact? What part of the carceral state necessitates that?

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greyfox747
07/16/22 4:35:04 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
To be fair, you are in prison. You are forfeited certain rights while in prison. I feel like its a fair solution for that situation

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Nerevar791
07/16/22 4:35:18 PM
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Thaumaturges posted...
Solitary. Chastity belt.
So trans women need to be locked up in solitary or subjected to extra punishment based on their gender identity. And that's not discrimination how, exactly?

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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:35:37 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
Fucking yikes. Jesus Christ.

? How is what I said so horrible? I dont understand. There has to be a solution where you can be in your designated prison without getting someone pregnant. That causes all kind of issues like the child going into foster care, government spending more money, etc. You cant just sit back and say you dont see an issue with it. The argument that someone can be pregnant going into prison is much different from someone getting pregnant while in prison

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VG_Study_Lounge
07/16/22 4:35:37 PM
#61:


So what happens to kids born into the system?

I think it would appropriate to shift the focus to that.

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Nerevar791
07/16/22 4:36:34 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
? How is what I said so horrible? I dont understand. There has to be a solution where you can be in your designated prison without getting someone pregnant. That causes all kind of issues like the child going into foster care, government spending more money, etc. You cant just sit back and say you dont see an issue with it. The argument that someone can be pregnant going into prison is much different from someone getting pregnant while in prison
If you don't see where "you're in prison so we can do eugenics to you" leads I don't know how to help you.

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Malcrasternus
07/16/22 4:37:26 PM
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Dude.

smh

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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:38:07 PM
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So, instead of explaining, you just say no and I dont know what Im talking about. This is why I dont enter these topics. If I make a statement that is wrong, no one is willing to explain it to me so I can form my own opinions on it. Im just suppose to know everything. Its so frustrating.

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Nerevar791
07/16/22 4:38:21 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
So, instead of explaining, you just say no and I dont know what Im talking about. This is why I dont enter these topics. If I make a statement that is wrong, no one is willing to explain it to me so I can form my own opinions on it. Im just suppose to know everything. Its so frustrating.

Nerevar791 posted...
If you don't see where "you're in prison so we can do eugenics to you" leads I don't know how to help you.


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Medussa
07/16/22 4:38:24 PM
#68:


didn't expect the worst post in this thread to not be transphobia, but CE found a way.

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Akagami_Shanks
07/16/22 4:38:57 PM
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CobraGT posted...
Really? There were complaint that father responsible for death of son should go to big boy prison instead.

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If you kill your child you deserve to be in the big boy prison said Diane Succio, a vocal member of the Creato Trial Discussion Group on Facebook since the group began, who likened the youth facility to a picnic compared to other prisons for older inmates
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Some inmate mailed one of my prosecutors a sample of the mold from the womens county jail and complained about some other stuff. NJ has also been sued for CO's beating up and abusing inmates. Now they might be convicts but they're still human. My uncle was in prison for a while too and whenever I went to visit the conditions didn't seem too great either. Young Adult prison though is kind of bad since everyone there is in there for some serious shit and coupled with the typical lackadaisical attitude they have, I fear for her safety and wish there was something else that could be done.

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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:39:35 PM
#71:


Nerevar791 posted...
If you don't see where "you're in prison so we can do eugenics to you" leads I don't know how to help you.

It was just one solution. Since its wrong, is there another solution? Do you think Im standing hard behind that or something? Can we get solutions from you? There has to be more.

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Nerevar791
07/16/22 4:40:02 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
It was just one solution. If its wrong, is there another solution? Do you think Im standing hard behind that or something? Can we get solutions from you? There has to be more.
Oh I'm well aware that it's a "solution."

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DespondentDeity
07/16/22 4:40:59 PM
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DepreceV2 posted...
It was just one solution. Since its wrong, is there another solution? Do you think Im standing hard behind that or something? Can we get solutions from you? There has to be more.

condoms


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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:41:18 PM
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What?! No. I know how pregnancy happens obviously. How did we even get there? Two inmates had sex and one got pregnant. Its obvious how it happened. What are you even talking about? You are the one who made that assumption I dont know.


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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:42:22 PM
#77:


DespondentDeity posted...
condoms

Sure as long as there is no negative consequence for supplying something like to a prisoner.

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MattcheteGuy
07/16/22 4:42:57 PM
#79:


ChopinList posted...
This board is current events. Why are so many being hostile at TC for posting it. No wonder this site is dying.

nO wOnDeR tHiS SiTe iS dYiNg

but to good faith address your post. I was not being hostile. I was looking to gauge the intent behind the topic.

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Gurifisu
07/16/22 4:43:02 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
Don't know how to tell you that people have sex in prisons all the time.
They have a point though. There should be some kind of countermeasures to prevent pregnancy in prison. It's no environment to be pregnant in. Thankfully this happened in New Jersey. Imagine had this been in an anti-abortion state. Needless pregnancy, and child needlessly born and thrown away

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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:45:05 PM
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No we didnt. I said the big issue isnt the sex but the pregnancy. You said I failed sex ed like you cant have sex and not get someone pregnant. That was you screwing up

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Akagami_Shanks
07/16/22 4:52:48 PM
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which post got rebel suspended

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DespondentDeity
07/16/22 4:54:38 PM
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Guacamelee 2

@Conflict

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pinky0926
07/16/22 4:56:48 PM
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Somewhat ironically, a quick google suggests that Norway has a pretty brutal take on dealing with pregnant inmates.

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Akagami_Shanks
07/16/22 4:57:24 PM
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probably but theres arguments for both sides. For example, inmates shouldn't be getting pregnant in prison and suggests something very wrong with that area if it happens.
On the other hand, if it does happen the state/private owner should be prepared for it. Having a baby shouldn't be a way to get out of a prison sentence but babies are babies and they require their mother

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DepreceV2
07/16/22 4:58:23 PM
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That would also help. I still disagree with someone getting pregnant in prison but this will help those who are pregnant going into prison

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Nemu
07/16/22 4:59:02 PM
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Why would you ever house someone who can impregnate inmates with the general population? Ignoring any other problem, that's just an insane financial burden to take on at no benefit. You don't need to send her to a men's prison, but fucking hell she shouldn't be at all mixing with anyone.
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Heavy_D_Forever
07/16/22 5:00:53 PM
#91:


Nemu posted...
Why would you ever house someone who can impregnate inmates with the general population? Ignoring any other problem, that's just an insane financial burden to take on at no benefit. You don't need to send her to a men's prison, but fucking hell she shouldn't be at all mixing with anyone.
Inb4 someone calls you transphobic

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garan
07/16/22 5:04:31 PM
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Heavy_D_Forever posted...
Inb4 someone calls you transphobic


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Giblet_Enjoyer
07/16/22 5:12:16 PM
#93:


Disgusting.

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Guacamelee I think

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I4NRulez
07/16/22 5:13:25 PM
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I think his takes in that picture are pretty reasonable

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_HayleyWilliams
07/16/22 5:14:11 PM
#95:


Nemu posted...
Why would you ever house someone who can impregnate inmates with the general population? Ignoring any other problem, that's just an insane financial burden to take on at no benefit. You don't need to send her to a men's prison, but fucking hell she shouldn't be at all mixing with anyone.
Surely putting all trans inmates in solitary would be a good move

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ElatedVenusaur
07/16/22 5:17:52 PM
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It's weird people want to specifically treat trans innmates more harshly....for reasons.
It's weird no one ever suggests male prison guards should get vasectomies before working in women's prisons, even though they "cause" way more pregnancies. I wonder why?

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Akagami_Shanks
07/16/22 5:20:58 PM
#97:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
It's weird people want to specifically treat trans innmates more harshly....for reasons.
It's weird no one ever suggests male prison guards should get vasectomies before working in women's prisons, even though they "cause" way more pregnancies. I wonder why?
because the job isn't their life, and there are other solutions like y'know, not having sex with inmates in general, or assigning female officers instead of males. I assume the 2nd one isn't done more because of staffing issues but I could be wrong.

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DepreceV2
07/16/22 5:21:55 PM
#98:


ElatedVenusaur posted...
It's weird people want to specifically treat trans innmates more harshly....for reasons.
It's weird no one ever suggests male prison guards should get vasectomies before working in women's prisons, even though they "cause" way more pregnancies. I wonder why?

As long as they try to prevent prison pregnancies then the method of choice doesnt have to be that. Others have come up with better solutions that would work just as well. Also, the idea of making it a felony offense also covers prison guards who cause pregnancies so maybe that is the best solution.

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viewmaster_pi
07/16/22 5:23:35 PM
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Nerevar791 posted...
Maybe. He has a lot of other posts from 2017-2018 whining about trans people and lgbt people in general too.
i know rebel's already on his way to bangladesh again, but holy shit i just want to say, if anyone else would like to keep tabs and cry about posts from 5 years ago and trowel around looking for them to use as gotchas, please get a fucking life already.

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BearlyWilling
07/16/22 5:24:48 PM
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The bigoted posts in this topic are on a whole other levelbig yikes

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