Current Events > Shockthemonkey is SUSPENDED!

(+) Yeah! (+)

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


No. I'm MagicOracle, but I rarely post on that account.

VeggetaX posted...

You either follow and believe everything I do to the fullest or you're the enemy.

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

LinkFanatic posted...

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

It's just funny because the whole "We are not a monolith" thing was trending here on gamefaqs for a bit and then all of a sudden shock and his type of people wants everyone to either 100% support in what they think is "right" or else they're the bigots.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

Being less than 100% supportive at all times is exactly what the right wants you to do? That's how they win.

If what you're saying is true and the only options are 100% or loss, then you've already lost. That rhetoric is repellent to everyone outside your group. Fortunately it's also nonsense, and I will still vote in your interests even if you talk nonsense.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


I am amused the majority of this topic has brought a lot of posters together in agreement with his toxicity.

Here Ill chime in.

Suppert locol museic

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

He can be pretty aggressive, and this is from the pov of a lurker mostly

Even I can see he's super hostile towards people who arent even trying to say anything negative

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/5/AAOGfWAADeQd.jpg

viewmaster_pi posted...

but what does this have to do with me or anything i said? these conclusions you jump to are the kind of thing i'm talking about. being left of center isn't good enough, voting democrat isn't good enough, nothing's good enough for some of the uniquely far left individuals here. the biggest example is trans issues. you can have the exact same beliefs on economics, race relations/equality, the environment, etc, but if you wouldn't date a trans person, or if you think there should be some kind of regulation regarding trans women competing with cis women in sports, then you're instantly labled a transphobe, which snowballs into general bigotry, which then must mean the person's probably racist, which then must mean they're an alt right neo nazi. it's just a little ridiculous, all in the name of "punching up" or whatever and appearing the most virtuous on a video game message board...

This is the most accurate post in this entire thread. And that behavior only pushes people away, unfortunately.

well if i were shocking monkeys i would be suspended as well...

ShineboxPhil posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/6/5/AAOGfWAADeQd.jpg

Just because I don't like shock don't mean I align with the right.

VeggetaX posted...

Just because I don't like shock don't mean I align with the right.

I didn't say you did.
Just a reference on how united people here are on their hate

_HayleyWilliams posted...

I'm sorry. Times are tough.

Look, man, I appreciate the apology but you gotta realize, I might not fully agree with everything you/shock/whoever says, that doesn't mean I'm some awful dude who votes against human rights and wants everyone to lose their rights or whatever some people paint me as. It's so incredibly frustrating that I have to repeat myself on my views and I get called some dumb shit because I disagreed with shockthemonkey and he decided to call me some incredibly fucked up stuff, you know?

Im glad you are ok Slayer

tripleh213 posted...

Im glad you are ok Slayer

Well, it's all about the game, and how you play it.

ShineboxPhil posted...

I didn't say you did.
Just a reference on how united people here are on their hate

I don't hate Shock, but he seriously needs to get some perspective, and all the people here who do hate him (and are not right wingers) shows what an issue this is. I didn't realize it was this bad.

Maybe he will learn from this.

Ive never seen shock contribute anything to a topic other than very aggressive trolling and chirping from the sidelines.

bsp77 posted...

Maybe he will learn from this.

I guarantee he won't. Lol.

dioxxys posted...

He always had bad opinions like "you're a bigot if you dont want to date transpeople".

Ive always been vocally opposed to this line of rhetoric before and after I started transitioning and made it clear that line is not drawn at Im not into it and is drawn at trans women are men, but you specifically dont have any defense against being called transphobic when you admitted without a hint of irony to studying photos of trans women in various states of undress to what? make sure that you never accidentally get turned on by one?

Though to be fair, its knowing you spend your time doing shit like that and fantasizing about a way to invent ethical sex slaves (useable by incels ONLY) to create equal sex opportunity for straight men and force women to lower their standards by reducing the number of simps that makes it so much fun to laugh at you when post shit like, Im above average looking and even *I* never get laid.

So like, I have no illusions about why some cis men dont want to fuck me, but maybe one of these days youll be able to pin down why no cis women want to fuck you.

DespondentDeity posted...

Ive always been vocally opposed to this line of rhetoric before and after I started transitioning and made it clear that line is not drawn at Im not into it and is drawn at trans women are men, but you specifically dont have any defense against being called transphobic when you admitted without a hint of irony to studying photos of trans women in various states of undress to what? make sure that you never accidentally get turned on by one?

Though to be fair, its knowing you spend your time doing shit like that and fantasizing about a way to invent ethical sex slaves (useable by incels ONLY) to create equal sex opportunity for straight men and force women to lower their standards by reducing the number of simps that makes it so much fun to laugh at you when post shit like, Im above average looking and even *I* never get laid.

So like, I have no illusions about why some cis men dont want to fuck me, but maybe one of these days youll be able to pin down why no cis women want to fuck you.

The bolded is key. If someone doesn't want to date trans women because they are looking for someone to be a biological mother to their child or because they don't want a penis involved (assuming pre-op or no desire for op), then I don't think that is necessarily transphobic. Those seem like legitimate preferences to me.

But if someone freaks out because they learn someone they thought was hot is a trans woman? That is certainly bad. I also might question why someone who doesn't care about children (or isn't at that stage in their life) would freak out about dating a post op trans women. You have to then question the reason. That suggests that there is some fear or disgust there.

I will admit that years ago, I never would have considered dating a trans woman, regardless of transition status. This is despite me being snipped. That was transphobic and I realize that and have learned from it.

Now I would have no issue dating a post op trans woman, and I admit that a part of me is curious about pre op as well. That is surprising to me how much I have changed. But sorry, Despondent, I am happily in a committed relationship ;)

VeggetaX posted...

It's just funny because the whole "We are not a monolith" thing was trending here on gamefaqs for a bit and then all of a sudden shock and his type of people wants everyone to either 100% support in what they think is "right" or else they're the bigots.

There are 2 parties that can win in America. 1 is actively trying to destroy us. If you support that party, you cannot claim you care about my life.

I honestly tire of all these "beliefs" and "politics". There is correct and incorrect and people can keep their beliefs to themselves. Free existence is not an opinion.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

There are 2 parties that can win in America. 1 is actively trying to destroy us. If you support that party, you cannot claim you care about my life.

I honestly tire of all these "beliefs" and "politics". There is correct and incorrect and people can keep their beliefs to themselves. Free existence is not an opinion.

Have you considered joining a doomsday cult? You'll be welcome there with your hyperbolic doomsaying.

Also inflation is the biggest threat we are facing. A bad economy kills more than people expect, and those deaths are hidden.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


A world outside of the basement of the bank of mommy and daddy. I got shit to pay and personal finances to worry about.

LinkFanatic posted...

"Only a Sith deals in absolutes."

The funny thing is, the statement "only a sith deals in absolutes" is also an absolute.

Shock is one of a few users who would simply be way better off mentally if he just stopped coming here, i think. Guy's heart is in the right place and I'm sure he's a good guy IRL, but the amount of vitriole and contempt he has on a videogame message board is...

Well least the right wingers here can stop the victim act. They wont stop the victim act.

Evening_Dragon posted...

If what you're saying is true and the only options are 100% or loss, then you've already lost. That rhetoric is repellent to everyone outside your group. Fortunately it's also nonsense, and I will still vote in your interests even if you talk nonsense.

I truly cannot comprehend why anybody person would have less than full support. I can't think of a single logical concern, even if I put myself in someone else's shoes. There's no sacrifice society has to make, no inconvenience.

BoogerKing posted...

Have you considered joining a doomsday cult? You'll be welcome there with your hyperbolic doomsaying.

Also inflation is the biggest threat we are facing. A bad economy kills more than people expect, and those deaths are hidden.

Women are officially considered subhuman and you want me to worry about some stupid economy? The Supreme Court and the GOP have vowed that LGBTQ+ people are next. Trans people are already escaping states where Gestapo have been set up.

You know what really helps the economy? Not wasting money investigating and legislating against abortion, gender transition, gay marriage, sodomy, etc. Why should minorities care about the economy when they won't even have social rights? Everyone being free to live their personal lives without fear would encourage people to spend money.

How many of us are the Republican government willing to sacrifice to "save the economy" for "everyone"? I'm not volunteering. We don't all have your privileges.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

Women are officially considered subhuman and you want me to worry about some stupid economy? The Supreme Court and the GOP have vowed that LGBTQ+ people are next. Trans people are already escaping states where Gestapo have been set up.

You know what really helps the economy? Not wasting money investigating and legislating against abortion, gender transition, gay marriage, sodomy, etc. Why should minorities care about the economy when they won't even have social rights? Everyone being free to live their personal lives without fear would encourage people to spend money.

How many of us are the Republican government willing to sacrifice to "save the economy" for "everyone"? I'm not volunteering. We don't all have your privileges.

We can worry about both human rights issues and the economy at the same time. They don't need to run counter to one another. Inflation is a serious issue right now, as is Roe v Wade and state governments attacking LGBTQ rights. I care about all of it.

BoogerKing posted...

A world outside of the basement of the bank of mommy and daddy. I got shit to pay and personal finances to worry about.

Imagine having to deal with more than just basic bills and the personal bills most people have to deal with.

Must be nice.

Seriously, how little thought did you put into that shit lol

_HayleyWilliams posted...

Women are officially considered subhuman and you want me to worry about some stupid economy? The Supreme Court and the GOP have vowed that LGBTQ+ people are next. Trans people are already escaping states where Gestapo have been set up.

Look, I get being upset about things, but this sort of hyperbolic language is not helping. The actual Gestapo would have you enslaved, tortured, and executed.

There are a lot of problems with the right wing, but claiming they're all 'Nazis' makes those of us on the left look hysterical rather than rational. That's the problem with shock too. Getting angry & screaming at people on the internet won't change attitudes or fix anything.

I am an economy first voter. I don't really care about other stuff. They are minor compared to the economy. A good managed economy is the best way to maximize a nation's wellbeing. Places where it hasn't been done well has way more suffering. Just look at all the chaos in Sri Lanka. That is what happens when a government fucks up the economy.

_HayleyWilliams posted...

Women are officially considered subhuman and you want me to worry about some stupid economy? The Supreme Court and the GOP have vowed that LGBTQ+ people are next. Trans people are already escaping states where Gestapo have been set up.

You know what really helps the economy? Not wasting money investigating and legislating against abortion, gender transition, gay marriage, sodomy, etc. Why should minorities care about the economy when they won't even have social rights? Everyone being free to live their personal lives without fear would encourage people to spend money.

How many of us are the Republican government willing to sacrifice to "save the economy" for "everyone"? I'm not volunteering. We don't all have your privileges.

You must be really sheltered if you DON'T need to worry about the economy. Living the NEET dream off on the bank of mommy and daddy with all the free time in the world to play keyboard warrior.

garan posted...

Look, I get being upset about things, but this sort of hyperbolic language is not helping. The actual Gestapo would have you enslaved, tortured, and executed.

There are a lot of problems with the right wing, but claiming they're all 'Nazis' makes those of us on the left look hysterical rather than rational. That's the problem with shock too. Getting angry & screaming at people on the internet won't change attitudes or fix anything.

Idaho just legally required women to die in pregnancy. Texas set up tip lines to expedite their government investigations into all trans children. Doctors in half the country are gonna be losing their license or get imprisoned for participating in healthcare that has been deemed murder or child abuse, because it has been deemed an affront to the state and to God.

People aren't being hysterical enough.

Every fiber of my being is getting personally attacked by government officials that have promised no freedom for anyone outside their narrow view of a model America. I'm not exaggerating. The party poised to take over in the next few years has vowed to control and restrict everything about me.

BoogerKing posted...

You must be really sheltered if you DON'T need to worry about the economy. Living the NEET dream off on the bank of mommy and daddy with all the free time in the world to play keyboard warrior.

If I don't have the same freedoms as you do, then I couldn't give a fuck about anyone's monetary situation, including my own.

And I'd be living on the street if I wasn't combining incomes with 3 other people to rent.

You didn't answer my question anyway. How many of us should be sacrificed to fix your precious economy that your people continue to torpedo while they get richer?

BoogerKing posted...

I am an economy first voter.

So...Who do you vote for then? I mean, you've been saying short sighted shit this whole time, which leads me to believe you don't have any actual grasp on economics either.

BoogerKing posted...

I am an economy first voter. I don't really care about other stuff. They are minor compared to the economy. A good managed economy is the best way to maximize a nation's wellbeing. Places where it hasn't been done well has way more suffering. Just look at all the chaos in Sri Lanka. That is what happens when a government fucks up the economy.

"Yeah women will die and gay people won't be allowed to have sex or marry. Yeah, trans people will be straight up illegal until adulthood. Birth control will be banned.

But that's all meaningless compared to the economy. A good economy will fix all our ills, except the ones I listed above."

Republican voter baby!

bsp77 posted...

We can worry about both human rights issues and the economy at the same time. They don't need to run counter to one another. Inflation is a serious issue right now, as is Roe v Wade and state governments attacking LGBTQ rights. I care about all of it.

So I guess you're not voting then? And they don't have to run counter. Only one party is actually arguing it's one or the other. Tolerance is incredibly inexpensive. It requires nothing.

Y'all don't have to give the two week old account attention.

BoogerKing posted...

Republican voter baby!

Well you just lost all credit.

BoogerKing posted...

Republican voter baby!

A cursory glance at Republican run states makes this the funniest shit ever.

BoogerKing posted...

Republican voter baby!

How many gay lives would you say it takes to bring inflation down 1 percentage point per year?

I never used ignore until the last month, but I am now.