Current Events > Two decades of Alzheimer's research may be based on deliberate fraud

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Antifar
07/23/22 8:14:33 AM
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Last month, drug company Genentech reported on the first clinical trials of the drug crenezumab, a drug targeting amyloid proteins that form sticky plaques in the brains of Alzheimers disease patients. The drug had been particularly effective in animal models, and the trial results were eagerly awaited as one of the most promising treatments in years. It did not work. Crenezumab did not slow or prevent cognitive decline in people with a predisposition toward Alzheimers.

Last year, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) narrowly approved the use of Aduhelm, a new drug from Biogen that the company has priced so highly that its expected to drive up the price of Medicare for everyone in America, even those who never need this drug. Aduhelm was the first drug to be approved that fights the accumulation of those "amyloid plaques" in the brain. What makes the approval of the $56,000-a-dose drug so controversial is that while it does decrease plaques, it doesnt actually slow Alzheimers. In fact, clinical trials were suspended in 2019 after the treatment showed no clinical benefits. (Which did not keep Biogen from seeking the drugs approval or pricing it astronomically.)

Over the last two decades, Alzheimers drugs have been notable mostly for having a 99% failure rate in human trials. Its not unusual for drugs that are effective in vitro and in animal models to turn out to be less than successful when used in humans, but Alzheimers has a record that makes the batting average in other areas look like Hall of Fame material.

And now we have a good idea of why. Because it looks like the original paper that established the amyloid plaque model as the foundation of Alzheimers research over the last 16 years might not just be wrong, but a deliberate fraud.

The suspicion that something was more than a little wrong with the model that is getting almost all Alzheimers research funding ($1.6 billion in the last year alone) began with a fight over the drug Simufilam. The drug was being pushed into trials by its manufacturer, Cassava Sciences, but a group of scientists who reviewed the drug makers claims about Simufilam believed that it was exaggerating the potential. So they did what any reasonable person would do: They purchased short sell positions in Cassava Sciences stock, filed a letter with the FDA calling for a review before allowing the drug to go to trial, and hired an investigator to provide some support for this position.

As Science reports, it was that investigator, Vanderbilt University neuroscientist and junior professor Matthew Schrag, who tipped over the whole applecart to discover that it wasnt just that Cassavas drug was ineffective. Theres good evidence that for the last 16 years, almost everyone has had the wrong idea about the cause of Alzheimers. Because of a fraud.

In 2006, Nature published a paper titled A specific amyloid- protein assembly in the brain impairs memory. Using a series of studies in mice, the paper concluded that memory deficits in middle-aged mice were directed caused by accumulations of a soluble substance called A*56. This was a specific form of a group known as toxic oligomers that had long been suspected as the possible precursors of amyloid plaques. The paper then went on to directly connect that condition to cognitive deficits associated with Alzheimer's disease independently of other conditions affecting the aging brain.

The study didnt come out of nowhere; it only seemed to confirm one of several hypothesis about Alzheimers that had been circulating for many years by that point. After all, the brains of Alzheimers patients do contain plaques that can sometimes seriously alter the structure of the brain. Those plaques do contain amyloids. Its not much of a stretch to suggest those amyloids are a primary cause of the associated memory loss and dementia. Amyloids cause plaques, plaques cause damage, the damage causes Alzheimer's. QED.
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What intrigued Schrag when he came back to this seminal work were the images. Images in the paper that were supposed to show the relationship between memory issues and the presence of A*56 appeared to have been altered. Some of them appeared to have been pieced together from multiple images. Schrag shied away from actually accusing this foundational paper of being a fraud, but he definitely raised red flags. He raised those concerns, discreetly at first, in a letter sent directly to the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Only when that letter failed to generate a response did Schrag bring his suspicions to others.

Now Science has concluded its own six-month review, during which it consulted with image experts. What they found seems to confirm Schrags suspicions.

They concurred with his overall conclusions, which cast doubt on hundreds of images, including more than 70 in Lesns papers. Some look like shockingly blatant examples of image tampering, says Donna Wilcock, an Alzheimers expert at the University of Kentucky.

After reviewing the images, molecular biologist Elisabeth Bik said of the paper, The obtained experimental results might not have been the desired results, and that data might have been changed to better fit a hypothesis.

Should this fraud turn out to be as extensive as it appears at first glance, the implications go well beyond just misdirecting tens of billions in funding and millions of hours of research over the last two decades. Since that 2006 publication, the presence or absence of this specific amyloid has often been treated as diagnostic of Alzheimers. Meaning that patients who did die from Alzheimer's may have been misdiagnosed as having something else. Those whose dementia came from other causes may have falsely been dragged under the Alzheimers umbrella. And every possible kind of study, whether it's as exotic as light therapy or long-running as nuns doing crossword puzzles, may have ultimately had results that were measured against a false yardstick.

tl;dr: the study "showing" what causes alzheimers appears to have used heavily doctored images to support its hypothesis.

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NeonOctopus
07/23/22 8:19:51 AM
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Bruh what the fuck

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07/23/22 8:20:22 AM
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Alzheimers is caused by social media

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teep_
07/23/22 8:27:59 AM
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disgusting

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 8:30:18 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
Bruh what the fuck
Get the patent, sell pills for $1200 each. Who cares if you're wrong?
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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 8:31:44 AM
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A-beta plaques have long been shown to be pretty irrelevant to the primary pathology in Alzheimer's. This just further solidifies it.
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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 8:34:20 AM
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Alzheimer's and Huntington's have nigh identical mechanisms. The origins are just different.
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DarkRoast
07/23/22 8:38:56 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Alzheimer's and Huntington's have nigh identical mechanisms. The origins are just different.

Sadly for huntington's, if you inherit the gene you're going to get it eventually.

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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 8:40:18 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Alzheimer's and Huntington's have nigh identical mechanisms. The origins are just different.

That's...not true at all.
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DarkRoast
07/23/22 8:41:16 AM
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The_Psyence_Guy posted...
That's...not true at all.

I think he's basically saying that both are caused by deposition of protein into brain brain parenchyma, although by that definition Parkinson's and lewy body dementia would also apply.

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 8:42:01 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Sadly for huntington's, if you inherit the gene you're going to get it eventually.
The way the CAG repeat disaster works, you may actually die of something else, if you're within fourty repeats.
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DarkRoast
07/23/22 8:43:07 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
The way the CAG repeat disaster works, you may actually die of something else, if you're within fourty repeats.

This is why prokaryotic DNA is better

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 8:45:12 AM
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Human DNA is such a disaster that I don't know why we're still here.
HeLa may well be our ultimate evolution. That shit is immortal.
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__aCEr__
07/23/22 8:47:04 AM
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That is truly awful.

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DarkRoast
07/23/22 8:51:41 AM
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Neurofibrillary tangles were the OG NFTs

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 8:53:39 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
I think he's basically saying that both are caused by deposition of protein into brain brain parenchyma, although by that definition Parkinson's and lewy body dementia would also apply.
This. Crap proteins that don't get out the way, and just get in the way.

Mutant Huntingtin is unique in that it eventually builds proteins measurable in millimeters. That's just catastrophic, in a brain.
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Trumpo
07/23/22 8:56:58 AM
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As a someome who Judgment this hits hard

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haloiscoolisbak
07/23/22 8:57:29 AM
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Well I'll be

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 9:04:18 AM
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@DarkRoast
Did we ever figure out parkinson's origin?
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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:05:31 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
@DarkRoast
Did we ever figure out parkinson's origin?

Huntington's is the odd one out, pretty much the only neurological condition with a known cause.
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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 9:06:51 AM
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The_Psyence_Guy posted...
Huntington's is the odd one out, pretty much the only neurological condition with a known cause.
well, shit

I guess we know where kuru and CJD come from. but those are especially terrible and fast compared to the rest
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DarkRoast
07/23/22 9:13:25 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
@DarkRoast
Did we ever figure out parkinson's origin?

Deposition of Lewy bodies (a waste protein) into various parts of the brain. Parkinson's involves deposition in the Basal Ganglia (movement) whereas Lewy Body Dementia is in the regions that manage behavior and information processing.

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 9:14:26 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
Deposition of Lewy bodies (a waste protein) into various parts of the brain. Parkinson's involves deposition in the Basal Ganglia (movement) whereas Lewy Body Dementia is in the regions that manage behavior and information processing.
Do we have any idea why the "where" part is different?
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DarkRoast
07/23/22 9:15:02 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Do we have any idea why the "where" part is different?

My theory is that they're the same disease, but which one manifests first is person-specific.

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Questionmarktarius
07/23/22 9:16:50 AM
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What happens if you get asstons of lewys in the amygdala or cerebrum? Has that even happened yet?
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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:25:00 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
What happens if you get asstons of lewys in the amygdala or cerebrum? Has that even happened yet?

Parkinson's progresses from inside out, so the disease usually ends with dementia as it hits the cortex. More or less, eventually the whole brain is affected.
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indica
07/23/22 9:25:27 AM
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teep_ posted...
disgusting


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Blightzkrieg
07/23/22 9:29:33 AM
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Having independent studies replicate your results should be required before a study is taken seriously. Its a blatant gap in the current scientific review process and it's just going to get worse. There is so much research out there right now that things quickly turn into a game of telephone.

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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:32:24 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Having independent studies replicate your results should be required before a study is taken seriously. Its a blatant gap in the current scientific review process and it's just going to get worse. There is so much research out there right now that things quickly turn into a game of telephone.

This would be prohibitively expensive, and often very very hard to do (some equipment can be in the hands of one or two labs in the world).
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gunplagirl
07/23/22 9:36:01 AM
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The_Psyence_Guy posted...
This would be prohibitively expensive, and often very very hard to do (some equipment can be in the hands of one or two labs in the world).
This, and especially given how medication patents throw that for a loop in the United States.

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Blightzkrieg
07/23/22 9:36:05 AM
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The_Psyence_Guy posted...
This would be prohibitively expensive, and often very very hard to do (some equipment can be in the hands of one or two labs in the world).
Almost all research that gets done right now is a dead end being looked into for no reason "just in case". It wouldn't be that difficult to start looking into repeat studies for most things whenever a breakthrough is established.

If we can do a thousand studies on the effects of sugar consumption, it's absolutely appalling that the root cause of Alzheimer's was established by a single study.

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Unsuprised_Pika
07/23/22 9:38:16 AM
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"Last year, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) narrowly approved the use of Aduhelm, a new drug from Biogen that the company has priced so highly that its expected to drive up the price of Medicare for everyone in America, even those who never need this drug"

Holy fuck. For profit medicine really should be a crime against humanity.

Individuals like Doctors and Nurses should be well compensated for their efforts and innovations but investors, companies and CEOS/Owners should not be making vast fortunes and no one even surgeons should be making fuck you money.

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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:38:20 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
it's absolutely appalling that the root cause of Alzheimer's was established by a single study.

I mean, it wasn't.
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gunplagirl
07/23/22 9:41:43 AM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
"Last year, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) narrowly approved the use of Aduhelm, a new drug from Biogen that the company has priced so highly that its expected to drive up the price of Medicare for everyone in America, even those who never need this drug"

Holy fuck. For profit medicine really should be a crime against humanity.

Individuals should be well compensated for their efforts and innovations but investors, companies and CEOS/Owners should not be making vast fortunes.
Also our medication patent laws need to be binned. At most, give the creators exclusivity rights for say, 10 years. After that, there'll be no charges or royalties paid for others to develop the same medication. And none of this "we refresh our rights by improving the formula and maybe one molecule pairing in the entire thing" crap to go after adjacent ones that have the same effects.

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Blightzkrieg
07/23/22 9:44:51 AM
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The_Psyence_Guy posted...
I mean, it wasn't.
This isn't my area of study so I'm going literally just based on the text of the article, which states that these plaques were assumed to be the immediate cause of memory deficits and most/many prospective Alzheimer's drugs work by targeting this plaque. All based on a fraudulent study. Please elaborate if that's incorrect.

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CE_gonna_CE
07/23/22 9:45:00 AM
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I just watched Dopesick on Hulu yesterday.

It really is so true, and sad, that this kinda stuff will never go away, unfortunately.

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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:45:33 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
This isn't my area of study so I'm going literally just based on the text of the article, which states that these plaques were assumed to be the immediate cause of memory deficits and most/many prospective Alzheimer's drugs work by targeting this plaque. All based on a fraudulent study. Please elaborate if that's incorrect.

Antifar posted...
The study didnt come out of nowhere; it only seemed to confirm one of several hypothesis about Alzheimers that had been circulating for many years by that point. After all, the brains of Alzheimers patients do contain plaques that can sometimes seriously alter the structure of the brain. Those plaques do contain amyloids. Its not much of a stretch to suggest those amyloids are a primary cause of the associated memory loss and dementia. Amyloids cause plaques, plaques cause damage, the damage causes Alzheimer's. QED.

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Blightzkrieg
07/23/22 9:47:18 AM
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The article refers to that as being a hypothesis prior to the study in question, with the only actual supporting evidence being the fraudulent study.

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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:50:38 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
The article refers to that as being a hypothesis prior to the study in question, with the only actual supporting evidence being the fraudulent study.

That's a bit sloppy in both writing and interpretation. People had been working in both human and animal studies looking at amyloid long before that.

This is just one study out of many. Like, amyloid plaques are highly present in patients, and it even correlates with disease severity. And if you create mouse lines that produce a lot of these plaques you get things that look like similar behavioral deficits. This is one mouse line, out of like dozens, and one study of that mouse line out of hundreds.
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The_Psyence_Guy
07/23/22 9:58:25 AM
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Just to be clear though, it was pretty clear that A-beta was a deadend before those pharmaceutical companies started even developing those drugs. The failure of those clinical trials were just the final nails in the coffin.
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Blue_Thunder
07/23/22 10:01:05 AM
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So is anyone working on research not based on this plaque stuff or did everyone jump on that bandwagon?

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COVxy
07/24/22 6:52:21 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/9/5/AAZt-XAADfVr.jpg

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Tyranthraxus
07/24/22 6:55:29 PM
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The_Psyence_Guy posted...
Huntington's is the odd one out, pretty much the only neurological condition with a known cause.

We've more or less pinned down multiple sclerosis. It's a very recent development though.

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Homeless_Waifu
07/24/22 7:00:51 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Human DNA is such a disaster that I don't know why we're still here.
HeLa may well be our ultimate evolution. That shit is immortal.
I wouldn't say human DNA is bad...
Humans simply aren't meant to last very long, at least not without degradation.

The older you get, the higher you are at risk to experience something serious.

A few people are lucky and can live the rest of their lives without having to worry about it too much...
But for the vast majority of people, something will come along eventually.

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COVxy
07/24/22 7:12:20 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
We've more or less pinned down multiple sclerosis. It's a very recent development though.

Haven't heard any real new developments there, link?

I'll say: MS is one of those diseases where there is a magical cure-all blasted across the internet with little to no good evidence every couple of years, so I would be a bit skeptical by default.

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Tyranthraxus
07/24/22 7:19:51 PM
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COVxy posted...
Haven't heard any real new developments there, link?

I'll say: MS is one of those diseases where there is a magical cure-all blasted across the internet with little to no good evidence every couple of years, so I would be a bit skeptical by default.

I didn't say anything about a cure, just that we know the cause.

The cause is.... Well it's a cascading pile of shit but you have nerve damage which is the result of demyelination which happens because of antibodies that are antagonistic to the myelin sheath and those antibodies get produced because your B-cells are infected with EBV and the T-Cells for whatever reason can't identify and kill the infected B-cells.

There's still some people with MS that don't have EBV but it seems thoses cases are extremely rare so in their case it must be some other mechanism creating the hostile antibodies.

I'll get you a link in a moment but you can probably find it yourself just by searching multiple sclerosis and Epstein Barr virus.

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COVxy
07/24/22 7:24:56 PM
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Ohh, I know the study you're referring to. It wasn't super convincing to me. The big thing was that it was a very large prospective epi study, so they could look for antecedents, even for such small probability events. But could easily just be a spurious association.

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nfearurspecimn
07/24/22 7:26:05 PM
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what a shock that mental illness would foster such abusers
(to be clear I'm not talking about those diagnosed, but the diagnosers)

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Tyranthraxus
07/24/22 7:27:28 PM
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COVxy posted...
Ohh, I know the study you're referring to. It wasn't super convincing to me. The big thing was that it was a very large prospective epi study, so they could look for antecedents, even for such small probability events. But could easily just be a spurious association.

Since the last major study published about 6 months ago there's been some tremendous success in treating MS by treating EBV instead.

This is all super new stuff though and so we're still at least a few years away from curing anything but evidence that this is the main culprit keeps coming in like an avalanche and I will be very surprised if it doesn't pan out long term.

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Beast_Le_Chonk7
07/24/22 7:31:38 PM
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Wtf

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