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Sayoria
07/30/22 10:12:10 PM
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https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2022/06/03/gop-passes-bill-aiming-to-root-out-suspected-transgender-female-athletes-with-genital-inspection/

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MixedRaceBaby
07/30/22 10:12:36 PM
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this country is a fucking joke.

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MarcoRubio
07/30/22 10:13:17 PM
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Jfc what a joke state. This needs to end now.

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DespondentDeity
07/30/22 10:14:58 PM
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There is only one transgender girl in the state that is currently participating in high school athletics, according to Equality Ohio and the Ohio High School Athletic Association (OSHAA).

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billcom6
07/30/22 10:16:42 PM
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As a high school coach in Ohio, they can fuck off.

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ssj3vegeta
07/30/22 10:17:11 PM
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dese fuckers just want to sexually abuse females with dis, fuck dem

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DarkChozoGhost
07/30/22 10:18:37 PM
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It is moddable to say what should happen to Republican legislators in Ohio

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Hambo
07/30/22 10:21:28 PM
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Republicans: trans people are pedophiles and sexual predators!

Also republicans:

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Sayoria
07/30/22 11:20:53 PM
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Quagmire would move to Ohio to be a vaginal inspector.

Imagine that this is a job in 2022.

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ForsakenHermit
07/30/22 11:21:39 PM
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Do they at least require it be done by a woman?

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hockeybub89
07/30/22 11:22:57 PM
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Anyone want to fail at trying to defend this invasion of privacy and bodily autonomy?

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Priere
07/30/22 11:25:31 PM
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ForsakenHermit posted...
Do they at least require it be done by a woman?
Does the inspector have to get screened as well?

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Medussa
07/30/22 11:27:15 PM
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i've mentioned this before, but i did in fact have to take a physical to participate in HS sports, and yes, it included a hernia check.

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KnightofShikari
07/30/22 11:27:22 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/7/AABPmqAADf4t.jpg

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Tenlaar
07/30/22 11:35:13 PM
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Those bills are shit but people need to stop lying about them and engaging in the same pedophile panic stuff the Republicans are doing. The check is presenting a document from their doctor.
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Norman_Smiley
07/30/22 11:37:27 PM
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Doesn't everyone already do this in 4th grade PE?

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refmon
07/30/22 11:37:33 PM
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KnightofShikari posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/3/7/AABPmqAADf4t.jpg


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FortuneCookie
07/30/22 11:44:14 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/2/AAdlC_AADgsM.jpg

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Jiek_Fafn
07/30/22 11:45:30 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
There is only one transgender girl in the state that is currently participating in high school athletics, according to Equality Ohio and the Ohio High School Athletic Association (OSHAA).
Imagine having an entire law against you and only you. That can't be good for her self esteem

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voldothegr8
07/30/22 11:46:36 PM
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Not saying this is right or wrong, but a yearly physical is required to play sports in Ohio already including hernia checks which means dropping drawers. This will probably be another checkbox on the sheet from the doctor.

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Mr_Karate_II
07/30/22 11:47:46 PM
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I really fucking hate my state

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ProboBum
07/30/22 11:49:28 PM
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As an Ohioan, can my state just get [REDACTED] already, please?

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MrMallard
07/30/22 11:52:42 PM
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DespondentDeity posted...
There is only one transgender girl in the state that is currently participating in high school athletics, according to Equality Ohio and the Ohio High School Athletic Association (OSHAA).
One trans girl starts playing sports in Ohio.

The entire state bands together to make a law where any teenage girl suspected of being transgender has to expose their genitals to an authority figure - if memory serves right, it doesn't even have to be a doctor - to confirm their biological sex.

Next step, I would assume, is to blame the trans girl who wanted to play sports for causing these measures to be brought in and causing the sort of harm that this law will inevitably create. After all, tHiS wOuLdN't bE nEcEsSaRy iF sHe DiDn'T pLaY aNy SpOrTs!!!

Fucking watch that be the case.

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gunplagirl
07/30/22 11:54:13 PM
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Just remember that as trans people have said for years, any law or policy made to harm us WILL harm cis people as well. Mostly cis women, mind you. Heck, we've been seeing this recently with all the TERFs who worked with far right anti-choice Christian groups to target trans women and then oops the extremists revoked Roe v Wade like they said they would.

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Mr_Karate_II
07/30/22 11:54:48 PM
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Hopefully this isn't ever signed into law, the house can pass it all they want but unless the governor signs it, the bill won't go anywhere.


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gunplagirl
07/30/22 11:55:31 PM
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Mr_Karate_II posted...
Hopefully this isn't ever signed into law, the house can pass it all they want but unless the governor signs it, the bill won't go anywhere.
Pretty sure the Ohio governor wants this law.

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Tenlaar
07/31/22 12:01:56 AM
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MrMallard posted...
any teenage girl suspected of being transgender has to expose their genitals to an authority figure - if memory serves right, it doesn't even have to be a doctor - to confirm their biological sex.
You are spreading misinformation.

Tenlaar posted...
Those bills are shit but people need to stop lying about them and engaging in the same pedophile panic stuff the Republicans are doing. The check is presenting a document from their doctor.

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Imit8m3
07/31/22 12:02:46 AM
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KnightofShikari posted...
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DespondentDeity
07/31/22 12:12:47 AM
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Here, more from the article / session to piss people off and also show how stupid transgender opposition sounds when you just listen to their actual words.

Being able to play on the girls team is absolutely amazing, its a total dream, Ember, a softball player and high school junior, said. I feel at home and I can be myself and push myself every day to do my best, and I dont have to put on the mask or pretend to be someone else to enjoy the sport that I love.

Many House Republicans say allowing people like Ember to join girls teams hurts her competitors, especially with women working hard to earn Title IX, the sex discrimination act, for sports.

I am passionate about this issue because we can not allow girls dreams of being a gold medal athlete to be crushed by biological males stealing their opportunity, Powell said. This bill ensures that every little girl who works hard to make it on a podium is not robbed of her chance by a biological male competing against her in a biological female sport.

This declaration woke all of the Democrats in the chamber up. The next 45 minutes were full of heated exchanges between the two parties.

This is not a real problem, state Rep. Rich Brown, a Democrat from Canal Winchester, said. This is a made-up, lets feed red meat to the base issue.

State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Republican from Loveland, is very passionate about this issue because of her running career.

I have fought my entire life for equal rights for women, this is equal rights for women, Schmidt said. The Republican used her time to talk about how, one time, she placed second in a track meet. She did not lose to a transgender woman, but this was before Title IX came into play, so she couldnt get scholarships.

Its also the sense of pride that you get when you cross that finish line first, and you get that little coffee cup or you get that little medal, she said. We take that away when we give somebody an unfair advantage that we cannot compete against transgender women if they have the same athletic training as biological women have a much better shot at that trophy or that coffee cup or that scholarship.

Democrats then proceeded to fact-check the claims in the supporters remarks.
I was told in the last seven years the OSHAA transgender policy has been in place, we have never had more than one transgender female participating on a girls team at the high school level in any given year' state Rep. Dr. Beth Liston, a Democrat from Dublin, said.

Her stats are backed up by Equality Ohio and OSHAA. Once again, there was only one trans girl participating in athletics during the 2021-22 school year.

There are not scores of girls dreams being crushed, there is one child trying to play on their high school sports team, Liston said. This is a made-up controversy and this amendment is state-sanctioned bullying against one child.

But John Stover with Ohio Value Voters said if he had a daughter, he would want her to have a fair shot.

To have a transgender seven foot one inch male that was competing against her and having the physical strength that he is going to have competing against a daughter or in any of these physical sports, that would certainly be inappropriate, Stover said.

A guy wakes up and decides tomorrow hes going to be on the girls team? Bruno said. Its not a thing in Ohio that can happen, period. [This has only ever happened in a South Park episode to my knowledge]

Currently, if a trans girl wants to play with cis girls, she must have either a minimum of one year of going through hormone treatment or she must demonstrate no physical or physiological advantages.

Liston, a physician, then brought up what advocates are calling the most disturbing and chilling part of the bill.

I struggle to understand why we keep discussing bills focusing on childrens genitals, she said.

The proposed rules would prohibit any trans athlete from competing with cisgender girls or women. It also has a verification requirement, if someone is accused or suspected of being trans.

If someone is suspected to be transgender, she must go through evaluations of her external and internal genitalia, testosterone levels and genetic makeup.

This is truly bizarre medically and nonsensical, but looking at it practically, this bill means that if anyone decides to question a childs true gender, that child must undergo a sensitive exam, the doctor said.

A huge fear of Brunos is that not only will this traumatize young people, but also can cause a huge ripple effect on competitions in general.

Technically, under this bill, anyone can accuse someone else of being transgender, thus prompting this chain reaction.
Once inspected, the girl or woman has to give a signed physicians statement indicating their sex based on those three evaluations, according to the bill.

It is worth it for safety, though, Stover said.
When you start looking at a sport like basketball, thats a rather physical sport, and I as a father if I did have a daughter that was competing at that level I would not be happy to think that my daughter was competing in a situation that certainly had her involved in an unfair competitive disadvantage against a biological male who was transgender.

When asked about the potential thousands of girls now being internally examined just for winning a race, Stover said it could possibly happen but most likely not.

Its normally a situation in a case where I would say probably 95 to 98% of the time you know, he said. If I or any other male was to decide that I was going to become a female, I would make a very obvious transgender.

For example, Lia Thomas, you can tell that just by looking at him that this is a biological male, he said about the woman who won the NCAA Division I national championship in the 500-yard freestyle swimming event. So its something that normally is going to be physical that youre going to be able to see.
Thomas, whose name came up frequently during Republican comments during the session, but she doesnt win all of her races.
I certainly, once again, raised the question, where does this all end if we allow, once again, transgender biological men to compete against females in sports? Stover said.

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Foppe
07/31/22 12:12:57 AM
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hockeybub89
07/31/22 12:13:32 AM
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What happened to that hippo Republicans loved so much during the pandemic?

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hockeybub89
07/31/22 12:16:50 AM
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DespondentDeity posted...
Here, more from the article / session to piss people off and also show how stupid transgender opposition sounds when you just listen to their actual words.

Being able to play on the girls team is absolutely amazing, its a total dream, Ember, a softball player and high school junior, said. I feel at home and I can be myself and push myself every day to do my best, and I dont have to put on the mask or pretend to be someone else to enjoy the sport that I love.

Many House Republicans say allowing people like Ember to join girls teams hurts her competitors, especially with women working hard to earn Title IX, the sex discrimination act, for sports.

I am passionate about this issue because we can not allow girls dreams of being a gold medal athlete to be crushed by biological males stealing their opportunity, Powell said. This bill ensures that every little girl who works hard to make it on a podium is not robbed of her chance by a biological male competing against her in a biological female sport.

This declaration woke all of the Democrats in the chamber up. The next 45 minutes were full of heated exchanges between the two parties.

This is not a real problem, state Rep. Rich Brown, a Democrat from Canal Winchester, said. This is a made-up, lets feed red meat to the base issue.

State Rep. Jean Schmidt, a Republican from Loveland, is very passionate about this issue because of her running career.

I have fought my entire life for equal rights for women, this is equal rights for women, Schmidt said. The Republican used her time to talk about how, one time, she placed second in a track meet. She did not lose to a transgender woman, but this was before Title IX came into play, so she couldnt get scholarships.

Its also the sense of pride that you get when you cross that finish line first, and you get that little coffee cup or you get that little medal, she said. We take that away when we give somebody an unfair advantage that we cannot compete against transgender women if they have the same athletic training as biological women have a much better shot at that trophy or that coffee cup or that scholarship.

Democrats then proceeded to fact-check the claims in the supporters remarks.
I was told in the last seven years the OSHAA transgender policy has been in place, we have never had more than one transgender female participating on a girls team at the high school level in any given year' state Rep. Dr. Beth Liston, a Democrat from Dublin, said.

Her stats are backed up by Equality Ohio and OSHAA. Once again, there was only one trans girl participating in athletics during the 2021-22 school year.

There are not scores of girls dreams being crushed, there is one child trying to play on their high school sports team, Liston said. This is a made-up controversy and this amendment is state-sanctioned bullying against one child.

But John Stover with Ohio Value Voters said if he had a daughter, he would want her to have a fair shot.

To have a transgender seven foot one inch male that was competing against her and having the physical strength that he is going to have competing against a daughter or in any of these physical sports, that would certainly be inappropriate, Stover said.

A guy wakes up and decides tomorrow hes going to be on the girls team? Bruno said. Its not a thing in Ohio that can happen, period. [This has only ever happened in a South Park episode to my knowledge]

Currently, if a trans girl wants to play with cis girls, she must have either a minimum of one year of going through hormone treatment or she must demonstrate no physical or physiological advantages.

Liston, a physician, then brought up what advocates are calling the most disturbing and chilling part of the bill.

I struggle to understand why we keep discussing bills focusing on childrens genitals, she said.

The proposed rules would prohibit any trans athlete from competing with cisgender girls or women. It also has a verification requirement, if someone is accused or suspected of being trans.

If someone is suspected to be transgender, she must go through evaluations of her external and internal genitalia, testosterone levels and genetic makeup.

This is truly bizarre medically and nonsensical, but looking at it practically, this bill means that if anyone decides to question a childs true gender, that child must undergo a sensitive exam, the doctor said.

A huge fear of Brunos is that not only will this traumatize young people, but also can cause a huge ripple effect on competitions in general.

Technically, under this bill, anyone can accuse someone else of being transgender, thus prompting this chain reaction.
Once inspected, the girl or woman has to give a signed physicians statement indicating their sex based on those three evaluations, according to the bill.

It is worth it for safety, though, Stover said.
When you start looking at a sport like basketball, thats a rather physical sport, and I as a father if I did have a daughter that was competing at that level I would not be happy to think that my daughter was competing in a situation that certainly had her involved in an unfair competitive disadvantage against a biological male who was transgender.

When asked about the potential thousands of girls now being internally examined just for winning a race, Stover said it could possibly happen but most likely not.

Its normally a situation in a case where I would say probably 95 to 98% of the time you know, he said. If I or any other male was to decide that I was going to become a female, I would make a very obvious transgender.

For example, Lia Thomas, you can tell that just by looking at him that this is a biological male, he said about the woman who won the NCAA Division I national championship in the 500-yard freestyle swimming event. So its something that normally is going to be physical that youre going to be able to see.
Thomas, whose name came up frequently during Republican comments during the session, but she doesnt win all of her races.
I certainly, once again, raised the question, where does this all end if we allow, once again, transgender biological men to compete against females in sports? Stover said.
Let no one tell you that they are only interested in the integrity of women's sports and making sure no girl cries from feeling bad. Their words show you what they really think.

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thronedfire2
07/31/22 12:18:07 AM
#36:


ForsakenHermit posted...
Do they at least require it be done by a woman?

but whos going to make sure the inspector is really a woman?

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divot1338
07/31/22 12:18:50 AM
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Tenlaar posted...
Those bills are shit but people need to stop lying about them and engaging in the same pedophile panic stuff the Republicans are doing. The check is presenting a document from their doctor.
Subjecting every girl involved in athletics in the state to an unneccessary examination of their genitals to thwart the harmless activities of one person is clearly bad.

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Tyranthraxus
07/31/22 12:20:48 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

It's just water but we're running it through lead pipes.

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hockeybub89
07/31/22 12:24:13 AM
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Every female athlete in the state being forced to undergo a gynecological exam when a parent gets mad their kid lost seems somewhat bad to me.

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Tenlaar
07/31/22 12:25:24 AM
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divot1338 posted...
Subjecting every girl involved in athletics in the state to an unneccessary examination of their genitals to thwart the harmless activities of one person is clearly bad.
Clearly. Whats your point?
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Mew
07/31/22 12:27:10 AM
#41:


Tyranthraxus posted...
It's just water but we're running it through lead pipes.
Sounds about right

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Strider102
07/31/22 12:32:59 AM
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This state...

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NonDairyMiltank
07/31/22 12:34:58 AM
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Ohio passes bill to legally check athletes' vaginas
lol again, this reads like an article from The Onion

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MrMallard
07/31/22 12:36:39 AM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It's just water but we're running it through lead pipes.
Makes sense that America is going the way of Rome, then.

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gunplagirl
07/31/22 12:37:09 AM
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DespondentDeity posted...

Time to look up newspapers from that state for high school sports meet results then call their hotline and accuse every single person on the list of being transgender. Gotta make the system come crashing to a halt.

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Foppe
07/31/22 12:40:56 AM
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Will they put the result in a database or will they check the same girl multiple times if she wins multiple times and is reported after every win?

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Tyranthraxus
07/31/22 12:52:40 AM
#47:


Should string up a slideshow of vaginas 50/50 natural vs SRS and see if they can tell the difference except secretly make them all pictures of SRS vaginas and watch them point out how they can obviously tell when one is transgendered by comparing it to one of the other vaginas.

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Aitz
07/31/22 1:01:45 AM
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First, they overturned Roe v Wade to stop females from getting abortions. Now, they are trying to stop trans people in sports by forcing girls to check on their genitals but then say they care about these girls Fucking A-holes

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Foppe
07/31/22 1:08:11 AM
#49:


Aitz posted...
First, they overturned Roe v Wade to stop females from getting abortions. Now, they are trying to stop trans people in sports by forcing girls to check on their genitals but then say they care about these girls Fucking A-holes
What they really want is to force women to quit with sports.

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gunplagirl
07/31/22 1:24:14 AM
#50:


Foppe posted...
What they really want is to force women to quit with sports.
Well no. They want to stop all trans people from existing. Having it harm cis women in the process is like sprinkles on top of the cake. The cake and frosting being that it hurts trans people and lets the public open up a witch hunt for us.

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