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Guns_of_Verdun 07/31/22 6:13:55 AM #1: |
Been trying to remember the plot of FF12. I remember Ashe and Basch and Vaan and all the stuff they did. Well that Vaan watched them do anyway. I remember Balthier being cool with his cool voice. I remember Penello not doing a damn thing. I think she got kidnapped at some point. But when It comes to Fran I don't remember anything she ever did or said. I remember her basically being Balthier's tagalong pet. I know you go to her Rabbit people town one time and there's like 1 dude and 50,000 females which is creepy and implies inbreding like Game of Thrones. I remember her get mad when you find out she's really old or something. Did she do anything? What was her plot relevance? Memorable lines? --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 07/31/22 6:21:07 AM #2: |
Basically, 3 main points --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/31/22 6:23:02 AM #3: |
She made grinding those fucking worms in the great crystal less of a chore because you had dat bunny ass to stare at while doing it. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 07/31/22 6:24:29 AM #4: |
Priere posted... She made grinding those fucking worms in the great crystal less of a chore because you had dat bunny ass to stare at while doing it....Danjuro farming, yeah? I never got that far. >.> Every time I get that far in my hunt and side quests it's just too much of a slog to keep me going. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/31/22 6:27:54 AM #5: |
gunplagirl posted... ...Danjuro farming, yeah? I never got that far. >.> Every time I get that far in my hunt and side quests it's just too much of a slog to keep me going.Yeah it was a bitch. You had to kill like a million fo those damn wormy ghost guys to get the larva eaters to spawn. It took me hours. But now im sure there is some kind of spawn manipulation trick discovered to make it super easy. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 07/31/22 6:34:25 AM #6: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... Been trying to remember the plot of FF12. I remember Ashe and Basch and Vaan and all the stuff they did. Well that Vaan watched them do anyway. I remember Balthier being cool with his cool voice. I don't recall a dude in her village. Her group seemed like a weird mash up of Amazon wood elf and animal people. I say wood elf cause the living in the woods and Frans "default" weapon iirc is a bow. Edit: also game seemed to take some inspiration from star wars. Never watched em but I picked up on that. Balthier was basically Han solo so Fran is sexy Chewbacca I guess --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/31/22 6:45:44 AM #7: |
I did all the hunts, beat the optional bosses including boring ass Yizmat and I still barely remember half the game. FF7-10 are so much more memorable. I don't even remember what worms you're talking about XD I remember the Demon Wall Optional Boss fight. That was cool I remember you could cheese the game by stealing OP weapons from a Hunt mimic, then leaving the area, comeing back, stealing it again until you had a ton of them Sufferedphoneix posted... I don't recall a dude in her village. Her group seemed like a weird mash up of Amazon wood elf and animal people. I say wood elf cause the living in the woods and Frans "default" weapon iirc is a bow.There was 1 male rabbit thing And Fran is nothing like Chewbacca wtf lol --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 07/31/22 6:51:35 AM #8: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... I did all the hunts, beat the optional bosses including boring ass Yizmat and I still barely remember half the game. Just in she's balthier's (han solo like guys) side kick that does happen to have animal features. She hardly talks too. I said there was inspiration not a pure rip off. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 07/31/22 6:54:51 AM #9: |
ive said it before and ill say it again you could remove vaan, fran and penelo from the game and very little would have to change to get the story to still work. you could just have balthier and fran steal the sunstone getting rid of the one thing vaan does to jumpstart the story since they were going to do that anyway change the reason balthier goes to lhusu mines since rescuing penelo is the reason they go there in the first place have the gang find their way to viera woods someway else without frans help those are the biggest contributions to the plot each of them have and the one major thing they need to change if each one gets removed from the story so yeah they lift right out with minimal changes --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 07/31/22 6:59:35 AM #10: |
A brown skin bunny girl who wears a thong. Sue doesn't need to do anything else . --- To be a poor man is hard, but to be a poor race in a land of dollars is the very bottom of hardships. W.E.B. Du Bois ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 07/31/22 7:06:47 AM #11: |
yusiko posted... ive said it before and ill say it again Not everyone needs a major role. Vaan was the only one who shoulda had more. But I just accepted it as the story was simply being told from his perspective. I love balthier but it was really basche's story with Ashe being right behind in in importance. I mean alot revolves around basche spoilers --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 07/31/22 7:26:34 AM #12: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted...
There was not. Male viera live separately and the first time they appear in the entire franchise is in FFXIV. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 07/31/22 7:29:01 AM #13: |
Murphiroth posted... There was not. Yeah I was confused. I figured I'd remember the one male --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/31/22 7:33:46 AM #14: |
Murphiroth posted... There was not.Bullshit there was defo 1 one male rabbit in that town --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 07/31/22 7:36:34 AM #15: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... Bullshit there was defo 1 one male rabbit in that town You're welcome to provide proof. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/31/22 7:39:38 AM #16: |
I'm trying to find it but I can't remember his name I remember there being one old dude with a beard and he stuck out when I played the game because he was the only one. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 07/31/22 7:40:12 AM #17: |
Yeah that's not a thing, you're misremembering. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/31/22 7:48:24 AM #18: |
I can't find it :( I must be wrong. I swear there was an old bearded dude. Like Wisened elder type. I distinctly remember playing the game and feeling like "Wait, did he father every single damn bunny here? He's literally the only male." I can't imaigne making that up. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 07/31/22 8:00:05 AM #19: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... I can't find it :( Stranger things have happened. --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KainWind 07/31/22 8:15:37 AM #20: |
She let's us know how thick the mist is --- Momentai ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KnightofShikari 07/31/22 8:16:20 AM #21: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/5/5/AABPmqAADgvr.jpg nice butt shots --- The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 07/31/22 8:27:01 AM #22: |
Sufferedphoneix posted... Not everyone needs a major role. that would be true if the cast was larger if you had 8 or 9 permanent party members a few of them not being relevant to the story is understandable but ff12 has a rather small cast. only 6 permanent party members and half off them are irrelevant which is something that should not have happened even ff8 which sidelines everyone but squall and rinoa by disk 3 still had everyone be necessary for the story to work --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 07/31/22 8:33:45 AM #23: |
yusiko posted... that would be true if the cast was largerI dunno if I agree with this I don't think for a second every party member needs a major plot role. Nothing wrong with just having buddies or people connected to other characters. I'd argue Penello's biggest problem is that she's really really boring and bland moreso than she's not secretly the Queen of the Underdark or something. I mean Quina is great FF9 and s/he doesn't do a damn thing the entire game other than worldbuilding. --- http://i.imgur.com/VwJsmAR.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 07/31/22 8:43:48 AM #24: |
yusiko posted... ive said it before and ill say it againThat's not even a good argument. Let's go with FFVI spoilers Or let's go with FFX spoilers Or hell, I'll go with FFIX spoilers Just because their arcs don't necessarily push the main plot forward doesn't make them superfluous. They still push their own plots forward, and those do weave in and out throughout the story. --- tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi ... Copied to Clipboard!
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yusiko 07/31/22 8:49:55 AM #25: |
gunplagirl posted... Just because their arcs don't necessarily push the main plot forward doesn't make them superfluous. They still push their own plots forward, and those do weave in and out throughout the story. except that im not just talking about pushing the main arc forward there are minor things to affect the story for example lulu doesnt in FFX doesnt move the narrative along but she provides exposition to tidus and explains the world to him constantly throughout the game and she is an emotional support figure for yuna while she may not be important to the overall story as everyone else she still cant be removed from the story without having to change several things to the point where it would be very different if she were to be removed from the plot where as other fran vaan and penelo dont offer anything like that and can still be removed from the story with very little changes to the plot im not talking just how relevant to the story they are im talking about their role in the group dynamic and how other characters development requires them to exist and ff6 has a cast of 14 so it makes sense many of them would be irrelevant --- yusketeer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CreekCo 07/31/22 9:03:28 AM #26: |
@yusiko Youre right about those characters being utterly irrelevant. Panelo literally says shes just along for the ride at one point I think Phon coast or something like that. Its the first FF game I didnt bother finishing. They changed directors midway through development and it shows. Those three were just eye candy and I guess it worked because the game sold great. --- It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sufferedphoneix 07/31/22 9:09:40 AM #27: |
Guns_of_Verdun posted... I dunno if I agree with this I agree. You only need a handful of characters be important. But what would a jrpg be like if you only had 3-4 playable characters. I know they've done it but they wherent the best games from a gameplay standpoint. Think 10-2 is the one to do it best but it was the dressphere system that allowed that to be good. Gameplay wise you had many characters --- Cid- "looks like that overgrown lobster just got served!" Bartz-"with cheese biscuts AND mashed potatoes!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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