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kevwaffles 08/01/22 8:26:23 PM #1: |
*SPOILERS* progressively for this game, but please do not spoil the story. Pretty please? All I really know about this game is that there is a point where you actually have to figure out yourself who the killer is. Because of this I kind of wanted to log my suspicions of the various characters throughout. Probably like a lot of other people the first and only other Persona game I've played is P5R. I will inevitably make comparisons to it but I'll keep spoilers to that to a bare minimum and tag when I do. I also played a decent bit of SMT4 a long time ago but rage quit it when the guest characters kept healing bosses. Don't expect to hear much more about that. Playing on Hard Settings. Was going to do Very Hard but when I saw the only real difference was Exp and Money Gained I decided to avoid the inevitable grinding I'd do to make up for it. Also I will be using a guide for S-Links because fuck doing that blind. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/01/22 8:28:58 PM #2: |
Good luck! I love P4G (top ten game ever for me), but it's tough for many people to play the other Persona games when they start with 5. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/01/22 8:31:38 PM #3: |
Tag --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skullbone 08/01/22 8:33:12 PM #4: |
Yeah I started with P5 and had a hard time getting into P4G. I gave up after like 30-40 hours. --- skull ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/01/22 11:28:06 PM #5: |
Sorry the first post of actual substance took so long. Current Day: 4/16
Current Most Likely Suspect: Morooka Confidence Level: <1% Suspicion Tier Lists Wtf is wrong with you?
(I reserve the right to change tier names at any time. As well as forget, I mean purposefully exclude, people from the list.) --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 08/01/22 11:37:23 PM #6: |
kevwaffles posted... I'll bet I've heard her in something else I liked her better in. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Fitzgerald she honestly kinda sounds the same in everything she's in, or close enough that I instantly recognize her VA when I hear her --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/01/22 11:44:41 PM #7: |
Okay yeah she was perfectly fine as Wakaba in P5. I don't get what's up with her here. I did that write up right before the Midnight Channel. I wasn't expecting a clear image let alone Princess Yukiko or whatever was up with that. The personality shift at least makes her interesting even if it's probably not really her. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 08/01/22 11:49:15 PM #8: |
tag - got some interesting takes there! Good luck getting into it. If you played P5R first, getting into P4G is going to be a bit rough. I should go back to P4G since the story is still pretty great. Erin Fitzgerald IS Chie, though. As in... the character is her actual alter ego. --- BlueCrystalTear | You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer | ((FREE HUGS)) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/01/22 11:51:22 PM #9: |
For what it's worth, a few characters were recast for Golden (like Chie), and so they had to re-record all their dialogue. Teddie is another one whose VA is new. The weirdness may be a product of that, but it's honestly been so long that I can't remember what their old VAs sounded like. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 12:04:55 AM #10: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... If you played P5R first, getting into P4G is going to be a bit rough.I can tolerate bad or disappointing gameplay if the story is good enough. Honestly that's probably the other reason I dropped SMT4. I couldn't really even tell you what happened in the parts I played. Even if it wasn't bad I clearly wasn't engaged at that point. The opposite also holds true. I'm looking at you, FFX-2! --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/02/22 1:54:40 AM #11: |
Playing P3 will be even tougher if you ever try to go back to it. The gameplay really does improve with each game. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 2:00:53 AM #12: |
P3 doesn't let you control other party members, right? I'm much more hesitant to try that one. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrSmartGuy 08/02/22 2:02:03 AM #13: |
That's the reason I never finished P3. It got the party wiped a good half-dozen times, and the last time it happened was totally egregious and like an hour into a dungeon dive. --- Xbox GT/PSN name/Nintendo ID: TatteredUniform http://www.scuffletown.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/tRBE1.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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banananor 08/02/22 2:27:53 AM #14: |
I feel like persona 4 isnt much less playable than p5- Persona 3 is where it really drops off. The dungeon grind was just too long and too monotonous Even in p5 I thought the dungeons were too long- I was always eager to get back to the social stuff I'd for sure replay p3 with cheat codes, though --- You did indeed stab me in the back. However, you are only level one, whilst I am level 50. That means I should remain uninjured. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FakeAccount3000 08/02/22 2:52:12 AM #15: |
Do you want any warnings about which social links have time limits before they expire? There are different reasons for the time limits, so don't worry that it says something specific about a character because it actually doesn't. Personally I'd recommend looking up a no spoilers guide as to which links you need to finish before a certain time; I did and the plot from the full links was worth it. --- Dokkan Battle ID:3175154559 JPN Dokkan Battle ID1270165763 Dragon Ball Legends ID brggv8m3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordoftheMorons 08/02/22 4:04:43 AM #16: |
I played 5 -> 4 -> 3 and 4 didn't feel bad to go back to. 3 was where I really felt the lack of future features. --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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skullbone 08/02/22 4:45:02 AM #17: |
Going through the same exact dungeon in P4G 10 times is really what did it for me. But I also didn't like the characters or plot either. --- skull ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 08/02/22 5:36:51 AM #18: |
Im in the middle of my first playthrough of P4G right now, too! Im quite a bit further (November). Having not done this, I wanna make a minor suggestion and say start leveling your party member social links as soon as you can for the combat benefits. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 08/02/22 5:44:43 AM #19: |
I jumped right into Persona 4 after P5 cause I was craving more Persona and it didn't end well. I tried again after giving it some time to breathe and I enjoyed it the second time around. I still think Persona 5 outclasses it in every way but as long as you can stop yourself from comparing the two it's a good time! kevwaffles posted... Okay how does Morooka still have a job? almighty tenure --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 8:07:51 AM #20: |
FakeAccount3000 posted... Personally I'd recommend looking up a no spoilers guide as to which links you need to finish before a certain time; I did and the plot from the full links was worth it.I'm using the S-Link guide on this site and trying not to look further ahead then needed. It doesn't seem to give too much more info than necessary (so far). https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/293013-persona-4-golden/faqs/64630 If there's a better one people know of by all means let me know! --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RaidenGarai 08/02/22 8:12:01 AM #21: |
Amazing game, looking forward to reading this as you go! --- https://www.twitch.tv/zerothe14th ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 8:18:35 AM #22: |
MZero posted... I jumped right into Persona 4 after P5 cause I was craving more Persona and it didn't end well. I tried again after giving it some time to breathe and I enjoyed it the second time around. I still think Persona 5 outclasses it in every way but as long as you can stop yourself from comparing the two it's a good time!I played P5R in early 2020, so it's been a while. As far as comparisons go I'm pretty much limiting it to some of the more obvious character parallels so far, because there are plenty. I do need to play Strikers at some point but I really haven't been feeling up to it. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Silvergun 08/02/22 11:56:08 AM #23: |
I've only played the original on PS2. I am curious about the Golden version though. --- Warning, the self-destruct system has been activated, all personnel should evacuate immediately, 5 minutes to detonation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 3:00:37 PM #24: |
Current Day: 4/17 Before Bed
I won't necessarily do an update every game day. Just felt I had a lot to say. Current Most Likely Suspect: Morooka Confidence Level: <1% Suspicion Tier Lists Wtf is wrong with you?
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ChaosTonyV4 08/02/22 3:07:01 PM #25: |
I have a soft spot for Adachi because his voice actor is so iconic. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 3:08:07 PM #26: |
Also for the record I fully accept the possibility that I haven't even been properly introduced to the killer yet. These games are long and they have plenty of time. That's not going to stop me from doing these lists though. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/02/22 3:13:45 PM #27: |
ChaosTonyV4 posted... I have a soft spot for Adachi because his voice actor is so iconic.Nah he's just dead weight. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/02/22 3:15:57 PM #28: |
kevwaffles posted... Nah he's just dead weight.Oh man, I had no idea. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/02/22 3:17:08 PM #29: |
Save points in Persona dungeons are pretty stingy, but even if you leave the dungeon to save outside (always make sure you have plenty of the item that lets you instantly leave a dungeon), you can restart at the floor you left off on, so there's that. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 08/02/22 3:31:58 PM #30: |
Leonhart4 posted... Save points in Persona dungeons are pretty stingy, but even if you leave the dungeon to save outside (always make sure you have plenty of the item that lets you instantly leave a dungeon), you can restart at the floor you left off on, so there's that. Oh yeah, also if you ever restart at floor 1, you cant leave and restart at the previous floor you were on. One time I accidentally chose floor 1 instead of 7, and had to do basically an entire dungeon again. Not the biggest deal, but when the dungeons are the weakest part of the game, its a bummer. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/03/22 11:33:22 AM #31: |
Current Day: End of 4/21
Current Most Likely Suspect: Morooka Confidence Level: <1% Suspicion Tier Lists Keeping you at the top mostly out of spite let's be real
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Arti 08/03/22 11:36:28 AM #32: |
kevwaffles posted... * Does this game ever introduce Baton Passes? Feel free to actually answer that.Persona 5 mechanic only, so no --- http://backloggery.com/articuno2001/sig.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MZero 08/03/22 11:45:01 AM #33: |
leaving topic out of pure disgust for choosing soccer over basketball --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/03/22 11:58:41 AM #34: |
MZero posted... leaving topic out of pure disgust for choosing soccer over basketballTbf soccer was the only sport I was even remotely decent at as a kid, so it's what I would have chosen at that age if I had to pick one. Basketball is probably my worst sport and that's saying something. Now if we're talking about what I enjoy watching, give me basketball any day. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/03/22 11:59:14 AM #35: |
Arti posted... Persona 5 mechanic only, so noI thought so. Dang. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 08/03/22 12:09:32 PM #36: |
You can get all the books from Basketball, but for some reason there are VERY specific days you need to hang out with them to get them. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/03/22 1:17:55 PM #37: |
I don't think of Teddie as a simp --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueCrystalTear 08/03/22 1:35:46 PM #38: |
Leonhart4 posted... I don't think of Teddie as a simpHe flirts with Yukiko a little here and there, but it's nothing out of the ordinary for high school angst. It's not like Morgana's ever-enduring hard-on for Ann, which is one of many reasons Morgana is annoying. Teddie is fine by comparison. (Edit: I used the Japanese spelling for Ann, whoops) --- BlueCrystalTear | You're living your own life. You're you. #FearTheDeer | ((FREE HUGS)) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/03/22 1:54:29 PM #39: |
Teddie flirts (although he doesn't even seem to really understand what he's saying most of the time), but yeah, he isn't constantly pining desperately for anyone's affection. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/03/22 1:55:24 PM #40: |
Yeah, if it doesn't go on and on every scene like it does with Morgana I'll retract that label. Their first meeting just gave me flashbacks. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/03/22 1:58:45 PM #41: |
Don't get me wrong. Teddie's antics can be annoying. I just don't think he's a simp. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/03/22 2:06:26 PM #42: |
I didn't personally label Morgana as a simp at first because I figured he'd chill out after a little bit with that but he never did. I fully admit my initial thoughts to seeing Teddie act even a little bit similar are completely colored by that. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChaosTonyV4 08/03/22 2:09:41 PM #43: |
BlueCrystalTear posted... He flirts with Yukiko a little here and there, but it's nothing out of the ordinary for high school angst. No, he does a bit more than that, lol --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_stingers_ 08/03/22 2:28:06 PM #44: |
I played persona 4 twice but never golden. Is it different enough to replay again? --- Congrats Black Turtle! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Leonhart4 08/03/22 2:49:50 PM #45: |
_stingers_ posted... I played persona 4 twice but never golden. Is it different enough to replay again? There is a good bit of extra content (your mileage may vary on how good it is), but if you're a big fan of the original, I don't see any reason not to play Golden. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anagram 08/03/22 4:10:31 PM #46: |
_stingers_ posted... I played persona 4 twice but never golden. Is it different enough to replay again?I played P4 once and then P4G a few years later, and I thought it was a slog a lot of the time. By the end, I was very ready for things to be over. That said, if you really love P4, it does have more P4 content, that's for sure. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/04/22 12:20:11 AM #47: |
I suppose that is something else I've heard. That the extra semester isn't great. I'm still doing it regardless. I enjoyed the extra semester in P5R fwiw. I think the very nature of the extra semester sort of screws with the pacing even it is good but I can deal with that knowing it's just extra content. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/04/22 8:52:16 PM #48: |
Current Day: 4/30 Evening
Current Most Likely Suspect: Adachi Confidence Level: 3% Suspicion Tier Lists Your Timing and Info is just way too much to ignore
Spite/Hate
Kamoshida would be proud
Gut Punch
Non-Sus
Tied to a club choice
Anti-climactic
Nanako
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_stingers_ 08/04/22 8:54:43 PM #49: |
Boy you're going to be so shocked when Nanako is the killer --- Congrats Black Turtle! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kevwaffles 08/04/22 9:15:34 PM #50: |
_stingers_ posted... Boy you're going to be so shocked when Nanako is the killerBRB redoing my tier lists. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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