Current Events > I love Godilla movies. *SPOILERS FOR GODZILLA 2016*

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I watched a lot of the Godzilla movies on cable when I was a kid. I loved the property, even the stupid sci-fi plots. I really wish there was some sort of Bluray box set. I even liked Godzilla 2000--it didn't try to be Japanese Godzilla, it was a dumb campy movie in the post- Independence Day era of dumb summer movies. Id honestly rather of that than most stuff today. You see, I'm weary of Hollywood movies, so I had been putting off watching the monster cinematic universe. I started with Kong: Scull Island. That was actually a decently executed monster movie. 7/10. My hopes were high.

But oh my god Godzilla 2016 is pretty bad. I have a crush on the Olson lady but besides that...jeez what a snoozefest and most of what's here is cheesy af and takes itself way too seriously. It some a few great Godzilla scenes but the strongest character dies in the first 3rd of the movie.

Should I carry on or just be done? King of Monsters looks sweet. And I could just google Godzilla vs Kong "ending battle" or something for the fun part.

Watch bothe of them

King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong were fun.

Nah you can watch King of the Monsters, it has 200% more monsters just wrecking everything. Also King Kong if you haven't seen it

Godzilla vs King Kong though had the worst writing and storyline I've seen in like two decades... Er, minus the Star Wars sequels maybe. I mean I don't expect a monster movie to have the best plot but my god it's bad.
Eh... Maybe watch it just for the monster fights though.

The other Godzilla movies afterwards are much closer to standard Godzilla movies. He's treated less like a background natural disaster and more like a character in his own movie. The human parts are equal to slightly less dumb than the goofy sci fi stuff of the older films.

King of Monsters is straight up an updated version of what you know and love about Godzilla, good and bad. Kong vs Godzilla actually improves on some aspects in that department, but the human stuff is always going to be kind of dumb in these. I think the only time it isn't is the original.

Don't you mean 2014? Godzilla 2016 is Shin Godzilla.

GvK > K > G > KotM

Yes watch King of the Monsters. It's pretty much what the 2016 Godzilla shoulda been but I guess they *had* to set him up first I guess.

F1areaGaman posted...

I really wish there was some sort of Bluray box set.

Criterion has a collection of the Showa films on bluray. Gives me hope for a potential Heisei and Millennium release.

The two sequels are much better.

Also, if you haven't already, watch Shin Godzilla. As fun as the monster fights and cheesy alien plots are in most of the other Godzilla movies, it's nice to have something more in line with the original Godzilla every so often. It is easily the best Godzilla movie made in the past 20 years.

2014 was a cool origin story.

But the sequel is where it shine, naturally.

I'd say they succeeded in their initial goal.

King of the Monsters is a legit take on Godzilla. watch it. It's everything we love about the golden age of 'Zilla minus everything the series could do without (comedy and rubber suits). You now have basically the beginning of a whole new Kaiju universe there. I don't think there's a better starting point for new family friendly Kaiju films. I hope someone picks up the pieces soon somehow. It's losing steam.

Kong vs GZ is a much smaller movie but takes the trilogy not only into the realm of actual Kaiju shit (via Mech Godzilla design and themes) which King of the Monsters was only able to skirt around but also by taking King Kong to new heights with the tale of Inner Earth, a Jules Verne twist the Kaiju world definitely needed with the monsters sadly confined to islands and mountains or space, it comes into its own identity as a remake vs the philosophical horror of Shin Godzilla

Some viewers complain that Kong vs GZ it isn't an epic like King of the Monsters, but I appreciate the balance it brings to the first movie. And it suggests a serialized formula that we'll probably never see. There won't be 20 years of King of the Monsters, in all likelihood. So they make the monsters smarter and quirkier while also going darker and more simplistic. Perfect way to top it all off.

In retrospect, I was able to find 2014 exciting through the lense of the sequels as a kind of reprieve . By itself, it risks being boring because maybe you don't believe this Godzilla will get good sequels. But he did! :) Also, the MUTO are fun and the human drama is tolerable. I wouldn't say it's a bad movie. Just dry and overly familiar out of context. It's a big look at Godzilla 2000, and the American GZ. And all the emotions that comes with. But yea

As someone else said, you gotta see Shin Godzilla. It's a top 10 movie.

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Kong vs GZ is a remake of a classic film with a serious twist, and actually used the Mecha Godzilla design we all hoped it would.

Skull Island is weird one imo. I don't plan on ever watching it again, but I'm glad I didn't skip it before watching Kong vs GZ, so........

Xethuminra posted...

minus everything the series could do without (comedy and rubber suits).

What in the goddam fuck

Kim_Seong-a posted...

What in the goddam fuck

Look, I said it could do without it

Miniatures and comedically wanton destruction are a different story

Also @ OP there's a bluray set of the Showa films by Criterion.

All the later films are also readily accessible except Biollante, last I checked

But yeah you called out the right thing

I wish they still made those movies like that, sometimes

GATTJT posted...

Criterion has a collection of the Showa films on bluray. Gives me hope for a potential Heisei and Millennium release.

I watched all the Heisei and Millennium movies years ago. I think Netflix had a bunch of them. The only two I missed are Return of Godzilla and Godzilla vs. Biollante, both of which seem to be very difficult to legally watch. I actually had the VHS version of Godzilla vs. Biollante, but I distinctly remember it being one of the Godzilla movies I didn't watch as a kid.

But I am going through the Showa films right now. They're on both Criterion and HBO Max. I think the Heisei version of Godzilla is probably the best representation of the monster himself. But as goofy as they can be, the Showa movies might just be the most enjoyable. They've been fun to watch for sure.

Moar cartoons & games

I like the 2014 one more now that we have King of the Monsters. Cause its good set up. But it isnt a great movie let alone Godzilla movie. Its pretty clear they just didnt want to fully commit to the money of a full SFX Godzilla for multiple scenes but once they knew it would sell they were like fuck it lets go for the sequel.

Legendary is a good company overall that way and now that they have the bigger clout they dont have to be as timid as the early 2010s. It was a big deal that they got the license from Toho in the first place too. So hedging their bets isnt that surprising. If anything it helped Shin Godzilla get made too, to be a nice stark contrast to the more Heroic styled American Godzilla. Still kinda crazy they got Hideki Anno of all people to direct it. It is a bit dry though but with its themes I think thats part of the point.

Kim_Seong-a posted...

Also @ OP there's a bluray set of the Showa films by Criterion.

All the later films are also readily accessible except Biollante, last I checked

Did Godzilla 1985 ever get a DVD or Blu-Ray release?

FortuneCookie posted...

Did Godzilla 1985 ever get a DVD or Blu-Ray release?

It did, but it wasnt by Sony or whoever had the rights to Biollante (Miramax?) Still, it was available for a long time right alongside the Sony blurays. If its out of print thats news to me, I thought it was still pretty common. <_<

Kim_Seong-a posted...

It did, but it wasnt by Sony or whoever had the rights to Biollante (Miramax?) Still, it was available for a long time right alongside the Sony blurays. If its out of print thats news to me, I thought it was still pretty common. <_<

I never heard about it getting a release. I guess I must've missed out.

#1 Shin Gojira
#2 Invasion of the Astro-Monster
#3 Return of Mechagodzilla
#4 Gojira
#5 King Kong vs Godzilla
#6 Godzilla vs Space Godzilla
#7 Godzilla vs Destroyah
#8 Final Wars
#9 King of the Monsters
#10 Godzilla 2000

Terror of Mechagodzilla in the top three.

Good list.

*Terror

My bad. But yea ty

Xethuminra posted...

*Terror

My bad. But yea ty

I thought you were posting the Japanese names of the movies. lol. It's like a rule that every Godzilla film has two or more titles.

I was actually

But trying to be subtle. I wanted to post (Monster Zero)

Would way be down for a Godzilla Holiday Special using the costumes any time between now and forever

They did break two of the Final Wars costumes out to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Godzilla vs Hedorah in a 5 minute short film.

FortuneCookie posted...

They did break two of the Final Wars costumes out to celebrate the 50th anniversary of Godzilla vs Hedorah in a 5 minute short film.

Ty! Was wondering how often they actually break them out for TV and commercials or whatever stuff we don't see a lot of here in the west

Might give that a watch later

Best western Kaiju film is still Ghostbusters

Xethuminra posted...

Ty! Was wondering how often they actually break them out for TV and commercials or whatever stuff we don't see a lot of here in the west

Might give that a watch later

Best western Kaiju film is still Ghostbusters

It's definitely worth watching if you get a chance.

There's even a section where they do an Ultraman homage by having the camera slowly move to the right as the monsters fight in one long take.

And, yes, Mr. Stay Puft is one of the great kaiju of American cinema.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/5/AAdlC_AADi5z.jpg

Xethuminra posted...

Best western Kaiju film is still Ghostbusters

Pacific Rim literally has kaiju though.

DarthAragorn posted...

King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs Kong were fun.

This.

Lots more kaiju fighting in these.

sabin017 posted...

Pacific Rim literally has kaiju though.

Pacific Rim is awesome but I don't think it's the definitive Kaiju experience for that type of robot.

Megas XLR & Gantz Zero & the Power Rangers reboot movie all do a better job imo

Xethuminra posted...

the Power Rangers reboot movie

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxvKFPTzsfAouw-a_tnAEz53PaJxzrgxpN

sabin017 posted...

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxvKFPTzsfAouw-a_tnAEz53PaJxzrgxpN

Pacific Rim still has potential in my mind

I think around half the movie is good. I was thinking about this when reading that Attack on Titan thread that's up right now. Great setup, dropped the ball somewhere in the middle

Sacrificing the military play for character drama that failed to move most folks

That's a lot of fish.

If you're into east vs west sub vs dub stuff, or filming with japanese actors vs american actors using the same kaiju footage for both (like the original Power Rangers or the original Godzilla) I highly recommend Gridman/Super Human Samurai (especially if you are already familiar with it or saw some of it back in the day) There's an anime too I haven't quite gotten in the mood to take a look at.

As a fellow Godzilla fan, I can safely say King of the Monsters and Godzilla vs. Kong are absolutely fantastic movies. You won't be disappointed. Especially on Kong. They get it right this time.

Interesting tips. Thanks boys i guess I'll carry on and watch.

I wish there were better Godzilla games out there, I love Destroy All Monsters Melee and Save the Earth. I beat the hell of the SNES one. Should I try Unleashed on PS2?

You know what, fuck it

I LOVED Pacific Rim Uprising

Xethuminra posted...

If you're into east vs west sub vs dub stuff, or filming with japanese actors vs american actors using the same kaiju footage for both (like the original Power Rangers or the original Godzilla) I highly recommend Gridman/Super Human Samurai (especially if you are already familiar with it or saw some of it back in the day) There's an anime too I haven't quite gotten in the mood to take a look at.

Those shows are great. I've seen both versions multiple times through.

I actually like the Americanized version better but I appreciate the continuity in the original with the heroes and villains engaging in an arms race of sorts. In Superhuman Samurai Syber-Squad, they had all of their weapons and armor right from the start.

F1areaGaman posted...

Interesting tips. Thanks boys i guess I'll carry on and watch.

I wish there were better Godzilla games out there, I love Destroy All Monsters Melee and Save the Earth. I beat the hell of the SNES one. Should I try Unleashed on PS2?

I enjoyed the SNES one. I get why it's in the "for fans only" category though. They tried to do something different and, while I applaud them for it, a more standard monster-vs-monster game would have been preferable. (For those who haven't played the game, it's a "cinematic" style fighter in which the game jumps to a cinematic cutscene every time the player or computer performs a special attack.)

I wonder if that would could even be re-released given that Biollante is in legal limbo.

Buu_88 posted...

You know what, fuck it

I LOVED Pacific Rim Uprising

That one was pretty fun.

I also prefer 2 in many ways but it lacks the class of the scenes in the first one with Elba & Pearlman, iirc

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This scene from Godzilla Final Wars always puts a smile on my face *Spoilers*

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YellowSUV posted...

This scene from Godzilla Final Wars always puts a smile on my face *Spoilers*

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.This shit was great

god i wish more movies weren't garbage.

Titanosaurus had an awesome run.