Current Events > She-Hulk Episode 1 Topic *SPOILERS*

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spikethedevil posted...

It has a lead who isnt a straight white male.

Giant green female does have some "snu snu" appeal, though.

The CGI still has a slight uncanny look to it, but once again I think I'm still going to give the VFX team a pass because Disney/Marvel are being pieces of shites regarding the work conditions these teams have to get through.

I am surprised how she-hulk isnt like those extreme female body builders.

She keeps her proportions whilst bruce has massive thick limbs, massive feet and hands.

She should be looking like this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/4/AAPA_pAADk2y.jpg

But im not complaining.

Cobra1010 posted...

I am surprised how she-hulk isnt like those extreme female body builders.

She keeps her proportions whilst bruce has massive thick limbs, massive feet and hands.

She should be looking like this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/4/AAPA_pAADk2y.jpg

Lol no she shouldn't. She's only looked like that the past few years. Typically, she's just well-toned/in-shape woman (especially when she debuts.) Not bulging muscles everywhere.

Yeah her body size has been inconsistent over the years, her appearance on the show is the most consistent from what I've seen.

Cobra1010 posted...

She should be looking like this
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/4/AAPA_pAADk2y.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/3/2/AAEhCpAADk3Y.jpg

It was entertaining. Like her interacting with Bruce

just saw the first episode and i really enjoyed it! had plenty of laughs actually! Bruce and her got some fun chemistry going!

so all those whiny babies on IMDb who gave this a low score before it even aired can go fuck themselves with a cactus for real! lol -_-

Stuff like this is why I stopped putting much weight on the opinions of critics a very long time ago. If I didn't watch or play something because of critics, I pretty much would have missed out on.... everything. There have been a few times where this has caused me to watch some of the worst movies ever, but I'll take those few times along with everything I enjoyed.

I was completely underwhelmed by the writing in the first episode. It totally fails to establish any sort of central conflict or story arc going forward. Like Ive written before about how Hulks character got completely assassinated in Endgame because they removed the central conflict he had within himself the entire time (i.e. Banner vs The Hulk), and how that gave him nothing to do and no story arc to go through in endgame. And this first episode basically does the exact same thing with the new She-Hulk character. Now, I understand that obviously she isnt going to have that same conflict that Bruce does, and it would have been bad (imo) if they had tried to make that the focus of the show.

But at the end of the day, they gave us nothing. They presented the audience with a problem, solved that problemor more accurately, demonstrated to the audience that it wasnt actually a problem in the first placein a single episode, and then gave nothing else to build off of.

Now reading the early reviews I see that in future episodes she gets fired from her law firm and has to take a job at a different firm where she must defend supervillains, and to that I say, now theres a central conflict! Theres a plot hook! Thats the show right there! Why the fuck did they not structure the story to include that in the first episode? Gives me very very low expectations for the rest of the series if they couldnt see that.

you guys do know people can dislike things right? Not every bad review by a critic has to have an agenda lol

MrToothHasYou posted...

she gets fired from her law firm and has to take a job at a different firm where she must defend supervillains

That sounds interesting... actually... Shame the show has a 5.9 on IMDB.
I don't usually view anything with less than a 6 on IMDB, since there's loads of great entertainment, almost universally loved by all out there, why bother viewing bad sub-6 entertainment...

There were a few good laughs and the MC is charismatic, but that's about it.

Additionally, the feminism in this show is straight out of 2012 or something. The catcalling and "women's anger" scenes feel almost like parodies. It also seems a little tone deaf to focus on this "RBG mug" style feminism when women are being forced to give birth to headless dead fetuses and will soon be prosecuted as murderers for ectopic pregnancies.

To be clear, I'm criticizing it for showing a weak tea "relevant to a high powered attorney" style feminism rather than something more radical and current.

Akagami_Shanks posted...

you guys do know people can dislike things right? Not every bad review by a critic has to have an agenda lol

You are aware that the bad reviews were coming out before the show even aired, right? Lol indeed

I have to say, even though I dont like smart hulk, this is the best hulk we've had in a while. Better than infinity war, endgame and ultron hulk

lolife67 posted...

You are aware that the bad reviews were coming out before the show even aired, right? Lol indeed

there was a critic review posted here, to my understanding critics had early review episodes yes?

pegusus123456 posted...

But he's just following orders. He does a good job with what he's given.

He strikes me as the type who's just happy to be there and be a team player.

MrToothHasYou posted...

I was completely underwhelmed by the writing in the first episode. It totally fails to establish any sort of central conflict or story arc going forward.

It's her origin story episode.

Timmyjinkle posted...

That sounds interesting... actually... Shame the show has a 5.9 on IMDB.
I don't usually view anything with less than a 6 on IMDB, since there's loads of great entertainment, almost universally loved by all out there, why bother viewing bad sub-6 entertainment...

IMDB is heavily influenced by review bombings. Ms. Marvel met a very similar fate as well even before the show was aired. I would take those IMDB viewer ratings with a grain of salt for the same reasons I would say for the User Scores on Metacritic.

MrToothHasYou posted...

But at the end of the day, they gave us nothing. They presented the audience with a problem, solved that problemor more accurately, demonstrated to the audience that it wasnt actually a problem in the first placein a single episode, and then gave nothing else to build off of.

That's the thing, and what I'm hoping for. It's more of a law comedy than a movie cut into 6 pieces. There doesn't necessarily have to be any major central conflict outside stuff within her own circle and with people like Jamil's character. Basically just a chick going through daily life with Hulk's powers and dealing with what that brings.

Also, the Sakaaran ship is a good tease. Does it mean Skarr exists and is looking for Bruce? Is WWH a possibility in the future?

I liked it. Its an odd choice of words to describe an MCU movie/show, but if I had to pick one for the first episode, Id go with playful (which I was expecting to some degree based on the trailers, but not to this extent).

I was surprised by just how quickly they dive right into This is how she gets her powers. Within like 2 minutes, the blood got mixed, and boom, were off and running. I honestly dont know if I like how quickly it happened, or if Id prefer a bit more of a build. It wasnt a bad thing, just unexpected.

Also, the post credits might just be the funniest moment in the entire MCU for me. Goddamn, did that get a laugh outta me.

Captain America fucks

lolife67 posted...

Lol no she shouldn't. She's only looked like that the past few years. Typically, she's just well-toned/in-shape woman (especially when she debuts.) Not bulging muscles everywhere.

And yet shes supposed to be stronger than Hulk in this???

or at least thats what I thought chuds were up in arms about leading up to this show

BearlyWilling posted...

And yet shes supposed to be stronger than Hulk in this???

or at least thats what I thought chuds were up in arms about leading up to this show

Maybe stronger then calm smart Hulk but not stronger then Hulk. Banner being in control of Hulk tends to weaken Hulk.

Timmyjinkle posted...

That sounds interesting... actually... Shame the show has a 5.9 on IMDB.
I don't usually view anything with less than a 6 on IMDB, since there's loads of great entertainment, almost universally loved by all out there, why bother viewing bad sub-6 entertainment...

Let me guess, the audience score? Problem is groups with an agenda tend to minipulate the score to the point where it's worthless. I can't trust the audience score anymore. I only trust my own opinion.

BearlyWilling posted...

And yet shes supposed to be stronger than Hulk in this???

or at least thats what I thought chuds were up in arms about leading up to this show

They were talking about a shot in the trailer where Bruce casually throws a boulder, then she does a full body twirl and throws it farther than he did. They got big mad that she was stronger than him over that. The fact that in the actual show, he immediately shows off by throwing one into Earth's orbit will be lost on them.

Marvel needs to max these shows full screen like the movies. Stranger things was full screen

Blue_Popo posted...

Marvel needs to max these shows full screen like the movies

it certainly looked fullscreen to me.

Questionmarktarius posted...

it certainly looked fullscreen to me.

Watch this then dr strange imax

What, do you have a 21:9 tv or something?

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It's still better than spray-painting Lou Ferrigno.

I mean also take into the fact that the VFX teams are not only working under severe crunch on both time and budget, but then they are required to make any changes to the CGI when the creative heads deem it so. It honestly explains why the CGI for the newer shows and movies look kind of worst than previous MCU films.

The first episode wasn't so bad, and the spoilers in some review that hated just suggests it gets better.

Questionmarktarius posted...

It's still better than spray-painting Lou Ferrigno.

The spray paint is an urban legend.

https://youtu.be/1S8poOaSlGc

The_Popo posted...

The spray paint is an urban legend.

Lou Ferrigno must have ate a lot of copper in the 70s, then.

Prestoff posted...

IMDB is heavily influenced by review bombings. Ms. Marvel met a very similar fate as well even before the show was aired. I would take those IMDB viewer ratings with a grain of salt for the same reasons I would say for the User Scores on Metacritic.

Extremely influenced.

the show has a 5.9 rating, while the ONLY released episode, that didn't get a page until after it aired, has a 7.1

Gremlynn posted...

the show has a 5.9 rating, while the ONLY released episode, that didn't get a page until after it aired, has a 7.1

The internet is the purest manifestation of "Zeitgeist" that there has ever been.

Im starting to think, this has one of the best cousin relationships I can think of. Most shows/movies the cousin is evil or a weird unknown

It got a little heavy handed with the I can control it better because Im a woman blah blah blah nonsense for about 30 seconds. Between that and only having a few drops of blood transform her as opposed it being a transfusion like the comics, I thought it was a pretty good episode. Easy 7.5/10

Psyloshsr posted...

It got a little heavy handed with the I can control it better because Im a woman blah blah blah nonsense for about 30 seconds. Between that and only having a few drops of blood transform her as opposed it being a transfusion like the comics, I thought it was a pretty good episode. Easy 7.5/10

Even though we haven't seen him since, a few drops of blood in the Incredible Hulk supposed transforms Samuel Sterns into the Leader. You see his head expand. They just never followed up on it.

Thought it was solid. The D+ shows always start strong then flop though so hopefully this doesn't follow that trend.

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Wandavisions ending is fine to me. People here got carried away with theories but it ended that arc well enough, not perfectly but fine.

Falcon ended on falcon trying to solve a housing crisis by telling the government to do better. This was not a good ending

I liked Loki's ending, interesting way to end for a show I didnt really like

Hawkeye was rushed. Kingpin came in looking like a home alone villain and got his ass handed to him too quick. Clint let yelena beat him and wouldnt explain what happened for no reason. Also a lame ending

Moon knight put too much into the last episode. Steven grant was literally dead for 5 mins. Post credit scene saved it

Ms marvel ended decently after 3 crappy episodes derailed a strong start. Still the department of damage control waa proven right when kamran was dangerous but in order to make it hero vs villain, thry had to make the department be douchey

Jesus, the "WAAAAAH GIRL POWER" misogynist chuds are really outing themselves over this show. I just looked at the comments on one of the YouTube videos for the trailer and it's all incel whining.

I posted this before and then deleted it. Because of a people who are just not good dude was ragging on the show and I didn't want to be grouped into them. However I it should be said.

https://twitter.com/IMDb/status/1560367868352507905

This was so horrible. I don't want to down play catcalling or any shit like that. But Bruce was grew up in a abusive household, he was hunted by his girlfriends father, he was tested one, captured, spent years of of his life on a different world, seemingly has mental illness and tried to the kill himself. To down play his issues is pretty gross. And I see it lot with guys.

I really liked the episode, it was fun and funny, and actually kinda made me like Smart Hulk better. I do have some issues though, like with her just naturally outclassing him in every area effortlessly. Her first comment when learning she'd been affected was "I'm better than you." And then basically proceeded to clown him for the rest of the episode. It'll probably be easier see when it's not comparing the two of them.

Also, how on Earth did he get ragdoll'd by a Jeep? It flung him hard enough to break rocks...

And one last thing. Why did he need to be in human form? He said it was to heal his arm, but doesn't Hulk heal incredibly fast? I mean, in Ragnarok Bruce jumped out of that ship and got completely mangled, but was healed upon transforming into Hulk. In a previous movie he said he shot himself in the head and Hulk spit out the bullet. That he literally cannot die due to Hulk's healing abilities. But now he can only heal in human form?