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Baha05
08/19/22 10:36:07 AM
#51:


CableZL posted...
Agreed, but trying to claim someone is "bent out of shape" just because they made a simple mistake is ridiculous. I commented on your typos because I knew you would respond by trying to say it was just a mistake. Mine was just a mistake as well. You need to get over it.

It's simpler, yes, but let's stop trying to pretend that replacing an SSD on a PS5 is difficult. Exaggerating the difference doesn't help your case.
Not arguing you are vent out of shape over that but the constant people harping on me and my points for something I didnt even say. Said was one was more convenient then the other, inconvenient =/= difficult

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CableZL
08/19/22 10:39:00 AM
#52:


Baha05 posted...
Not arguing you are vent out of shape over that but the constant people harping on me and my points for something I didnt even say. Said was one was more convenient then the other, inconvenient =/= difficult

You said this:

Baha05 posted...
its just FAR more convenient for well anyone to plug in an expanded memory versus taking off a panel, unscreweing a screw to insert the drive in and putting it back together.

Again, exaggerating doesn't help your point. It's more convenient, sure. "FAR more convenient?" nah

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Baha05
08/19/22 10:40:53 AM
#53:


CableZL posted...
You said this:

Again, exaggerating doesn't help your point. It's more convenient, sure. "FAR more convenient?" nah
Because it is far more convenient

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DarkRoast
08/19/22 10:41:55 AM
#54:


Baha05 posted...
Because it is far more convenient

Oh no.

One whole screw

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Hornezz
08/19/22 10:45:12 AM
#55:


For the $120 you save you can buy a brand new screwdriver, pay someone to screw it in for you and still have money left over.

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CableZL
08/19/22 10:47:27 AM
#56:


Baha05 posted...
Because it is far more convenient

It's more convenient, but not "FAR more convenient."

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Baha05
08/19/22 10:50:56 AM
#57:


CableZL posted...
It's more convenient, but not "FAR more convenient."
Plugging it in versus taking parts off is far more convenient regardless of how easy the parts come off or not, that is the fundamental difference here. And why Im arguing people are getting bent out of shape with me saying that. Its not lime Im even saying its impossible or an all days task to update the PS5 and its storage.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/19/22 10:54:12 AM
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Why are people defending this and trying to overcomplicate it? Its not scary to unscrew one screw and slide off one panel, unless its your 3 year old kid attempting it which might be a little nerve wracking. Being able to slot in an SSD in the back doesnt justify a $10 price increase let alone double the price. The xbox shills itt have gone off the deep end
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Unknown5uspect
08/19/22 11:00:54 AM
#59:


DarkRoast posted...
I own both. This isn't about which console is better (I honestly prefer Xbox for multiplatform games) it's about anti-consumer practices that Microsoft has gotten away with for two decades now. Every single console they've made has been proprietary out the ass.
What really gets me about this gen with Xbox's proprietary bullshit is that it isn't just a stupid case for a laptop hard drive like with the 360.

There's no cheap workaround for the extended storage this gen with the Xbox.

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DipDipDiver
08/19/22 11:03:43 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
What part of "it's a PC part, which means there's always one on sale" doesn't anyone understand?

Nobody buys SSDs or RAM at full price.

This is the entire point of why non-proprietary is better.

Xbox SSD? There's only one. And it doesn't go on sale.

That's the point.
Guess I'll have to take your word for it. Still seems like a disingenuous comparison
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Baha05
08/19/22 11:04:25 AM
#61:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Why are people defending this and trying to overcomplicate it? Its not scary to unscrew one screw and slide off one panel, unless its your 3 year old kid attempting it which might be a little nerve wracking. Being able to slot in an SSD in the back doesnt justify a $10 price increase let alone double the price. The xbox shills itt have gone off the deep end
It amazes me that people here still dont know how to use the word shill correctly.

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spikethedevil
08/19/22 11:04:54 AM
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Baha has certainly chosen a weird hill to die on.

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Smashingpmkns
08/19/22 11:05:32 AM
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PS5 barely has enough games to fill up one tb

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crayola555
08/19/22 11:07:18 AM
#65:


MrKapowski posted...
Like the ones that only play Fortnite and Warzone?

PS actually got games to play, unlike Xbox your main game is Microsoft flight simulator

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Baha05
08/19/22 11:08:39 AM
#66:


spikethedevil posted...
Baha has certainly chosen a weird hill to die on.
I mean what hill is that I literally am explaining my point and Im not even saying this is impossible to do on PS5 or thats a good price for Xbox.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/19/22 11:11:04 AM
#67:


Baha05 posted...
I mean what hill is that I literally am explaining my point and Im not even saying this is impossible to do on PS5 or thats a good price for Xbox.
Your point is invalid because far more convenient is a reach and a half
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Ratchetrockon
08/19/22 11:12:28 AM
#68:


crayola555 posted...
PS actually got games to play, unlike Xbox your main game is Microsoft flight simulator

Ehh Xbox has access to thousands of games through retroarch.

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Baha05
08/19/22 11:12:43 AM
#69:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Your point is invalid because far more convenient is a reach and a half
Really not because again plugging something directly in is still going to be far more convenient then opening the system up to plug something in.

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lucariopikmin
08/19/22 11:13:30 AM
#70:


Kloe_Rinz posted...
Your point is invalid because far more convenient is a reach and a half
I mean it's 1 panel and an entire screw, you nearly need a degree in nuclear physics for that.

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Baha05
08/19/22 11:14:00 AM
#71:


lucariopikmin posted...
I mean it's 1 panel and an entire screw, you nearly need a degree in nuclear physics for that.
Or you k ow you need a degree in cutting the crap because inconvenience is still inconvenience.

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lucariopikmin
08/19/22 11:16:06 AM
#72:


Baha05 posted...
Or you k ow you need a degree in cutting the crap because inconvenience is still inconvenience.
If you actually cared about inconvenience then you would accept the fact that you're wrong but you don't actually care about your own arguments and just have to be right no matter how deep you dig your hole.

By the way, why are you actually typing that? You could save yourself the inconvenience of doing that if you would just stay quiet.

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CableZL
08/19/22 11:16:42 AM
#73:


Baha05 posted...
Or you k ow you need a degree in cutting the crap because inconvenience is still inconvenience.
Paying an extra $100 for 1TB of storage is magnitudes more inconvenient.

Inconvenience is still inconvenience, right?

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Kloe_Rinz
08/19/22 11:19:16 AM
#74:


Baha05 posted...
Or you k ow you need a degree in cutting the crap because inconvenience is still inconvenience.
Extremely minor, irrelevant inconvenience. Not far more inconvenient.
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Tyranthraxus
08/19/22 11:22:39 AM
#75:


CableZL posted...
One of a number of reasons I had been waiting to buy a next-gen console is because I'm pretty much done buying every console in a given generation. I'm still not in a hurry to buy one, but when I do, it'll likely be a PS5 because of this. I hadn't put much thought into the SSD piece, but the SSDs being $100 cheaper for PS5 is pretty much gonna make me get a PS5 whenever I'm ready to make the purchase.
I've functionality skipped this entire generation except for Switch. Everything I want to play on PlayStation or Xbox is also on PC.

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Will_VIIII
08/19/22 11:23:35 AM
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Almost a year ago now I saw there were 3rd party shells being made for the Xbox to use your own SSD but I don't think anything has come of that yet

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Will_VIIII
08/19/22 11:23:56 AM
#77:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I've functionality skipped this entire generation except for Switch. Everything I want to play on PlayStation or Xbox is also on PC.
Also this mostly.

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Kloe_Rinz
08/19/22 11:24:56 AM
#78:


Did baha complain when the sd card slot on the switch was under the kickstand and it was far too technical to open up the console by opening the kickstand to access the SD card?
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CableZL
08/19/22 11:26:02 AM
#79:


Tyranthraxus posted...
I've functionality skipped this entire generation except for Switch. Everything I want to play on PlayStation or Xbox is also on PC.
Yeah, the Switch is the only system I have as well. I have a PC, but I don't really game on it. I built it about 8 years ago and I'm not sure if the graphics cards would do well with games today. They might. I just haven't tried it with any recent games.

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Jabodie
08/19/22 11:26:43 AM
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Are you guys including the act of buying the screw driver and learning how to use one at all when evaluating this "inconvenience"? Not sure this whole discussion makes any sense otherwise.

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CableZL
08/19/22 11:28:10 AM
#81:


Jabodie posted...
Are you guys including the act of buying the screw driver and learning how to use one at all when evaluating this "inconvenience"? Not sure this whole discussion makes any sense otherwise.

Gotta travel to a store to get said screwdriver, too. What if you don't have a car? Gotta ride the bus? Take an uber? What if you don't have a phone to call an uber?

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Atralis
08/19/22 11:39:49 AM
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In a PC gamers opinion..... the PS5 wins this one. m.2 nvme hard drives have crashed in price in the past year or two and there is a ton of competition driving down the price.

Looking at the Xbox expansion slot hard drive thingie its still an nvme but since its so specific and its only made by seagate it costs about double. This isn't just about a $100 difference either. The 2 tb one is $400 for the Xbox while you can get a 2 tb fore $200 on Amazon from several different companies.
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Baha05
08/19/22 11:46:58 AM
#83:


Whatever continue to do what the internet does and be asses about it.

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Malcrasternus
08/19/22 11:51:29 AM
#84:


Smashingpmkns posted...
PS5 barely has enough games to fill up one tb
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/1/4/AAL4msAADlGu.jpg

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MrKapowski
08/19/22 12:00:10 PM
#85:


CableZL posted...
... No, like the ones who play a plethora of different games.

Ok

My daughter plays a bunch of games.

The Xbox One she uses is a 1 TB model, has 32 games installed. 90 GBs free.



crayola555 posted...
PS actually got games to play, unlike Xbox your main game is Microsoft flight simulator

Weird of you to assume what my main game is.

Maybe dial back that fanboy shit, eh?

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CableZL
08/19/22 12:40:45 PM
#86:


MrKapowski posted...
Ok

My daughter plays a bunch of games.

The Xbox One she uses is a 1 TB model, has 32 games installed. 90 GBs free.

And again, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that there is a large number of kids with a lot more than 32 games. Just because your daughter has a lot of games doesn't mean other kids don't have more.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/19/22 2:31:20 PM
#87:


Baha05 posted...
Still having to open up a system.
It's so easy, I can teach children how to do it.

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Jabodie
08/19/22 2:33:04 PM
#88:


Idk about you guys, but these live service games way into my space bad. The tears of added content adds up big time.

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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/19/22 2:35:29 PM
#89:


CableZL posted...
Oh, is it just that 1TB is the largest they make?

And it's proprietary?
Not completely.

The interface that MS uses for it's Memory Cards is CFexpress (Type B).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFexpress

While current CFexpress is on PCIe 3.0

MS wanted more speed so they decided to jump the gun and go with PCIe 4.0

MS couldn't wait for CFexpress to implement PCIe 4.0, so they jumped the gun and did it themselves and applied it for their Memory Card.

That's why it doesn't have economies of scale, MS is ahead of the CFexpress technology curve by 1x PCIe generation.

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Ryzen_9_5950X
08/19/22 2:37:07 PM
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As a PC DIY builder, the PS5 has a better design and it is easy enough for someone familiar with PCs to upgrade the SSD. That said, consoles appeal to the lowest common denominator, so there is value in an easy plug and play upgrade. Personally it isn't worth the premium Xbox charges, but it appeals to some who are uncomfortable opening up their console, as easy as it may be.
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Kamen_Rider_Blade
08/19/22 2:37:09 PM
#91:


Jabodie posted...
Idk about you guys, but these live service games way into my space bad. The tears of added content adds up big time.
Don't play games that are live services then.

Play normal games that don't have much added content.

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noisetank
08/19/22 2:40:34 PM
#92:


Smashingpmkns posted...
PS5 barely has enough games to fill up one tb


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Baha05
08/19/22 2:53:41 PM
#93:


Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
It's so easy, I can teach children how to do it.
Yet apparently not easy for you guys to not be petty and drop it.

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lucariopikmin
08/19/22 4:55:02 PM
#94:


Baha05 posted...
Yet apparently not easy for you guys to not be petty and drop it.
You're petty enough to say that people are getting bent out of shape for a simple mistake because you can't handle being wrong while immediately justifying your own mistakes with an excuse that shows that you can't take 5 seconds to go look at you typed while being an major inconvenience to everyone. So why is it so hard for you to listen to your own advice and to drop it yourself if it's so easy?

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DarkRoast
08/19/22 5:01:58 PM
#95:


https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Delta-Gen-4-0-MKNSSDDE1TB-D8/dp/B093DF7NG4

1 TB PS5 compatible drive for $81

So the Xbox's drive is 3x more expensive

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Trumble
08/19/22 5:19:39 PM
#96:


Baha05 posted...
Still having to open up a system.
Jesus, dude. This is like claiming you have to "open up a system" to replace a toy's battery if there's a screw on the battery cover.

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_Angel_
08/19/22 5:23:35 PM
#97:


If all you have to do is pop one panel to replace an SSD for PS5lol at any one trying to defend the Xbox SSD for ease of installation

just pick up a screwdriver

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CableZL
08/19/22 5:25:15 PM
#98:


Kamen_Rider_Blade posted...
Not completely.

The interface that MS uses for it's Memory Cards is CFexpress (Type B).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFexpress

While current CFexpress is on PCIe 3.0

MS wanted more speed so they decided to jump the gun and go with PCIe 4.0

MS couldn't wait for CFexpress to implement PCIe 4.0, so they jumped the gun and did it themselves and applied it for their Memory Card.

That's why it doesn't have economies of scale, MS is ahead of the CFexpress technology curve by 1x PCIe generation.

Ah, that makes sense. When/if PCIe 4.0 becomes the standard, would that then allow people to get 3rd party PCIe4.0 drives and use them with XSX?

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harley2280
08/19/22 5:42:24 PM
#99:


Don't buy that SSD for your PS5. It does not have a high enough read speed. You're going to get iffy performance from it.

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harley2280
08/19/22 5:43:06 PM
#100:


DarkRoast posted...
https://www.amazon.com/Mushkin-Delta-Gen-4-0-MKNSSDDE1TB-D8/dp/B093DF7NG4

1 TB PS5 compatible drive for $81

So the Xbox's drive is 3x more expensive
This one is worse than the first one.

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