Current Events > Introducing the future "least popular prime minister in UK history"...

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Liz Truss.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-politics-62760180

Cor blimey.

I know nothing about UK politics, do people not want this woman as prime minister?

I don't know much about UK politics either but Tory's seem like idiots.

MabusIncarnate posted...

I know nothing about UK politics, do people not want this woman as prime minister?

No. No, they do not.

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/09/01/ what-do-people-think-liz-truss

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MabusIncarnate posted...

I know nothing about UK politics, do people not want this woman as prime minister?

A literal child would be more competent and consistent. We are truly fucked and in the darkest time line.

Her solutions to the struggling poor and middle class is to give the rich tax breaks.

MabusIncarnate posted...

I know nothing about UK politics, do people not want this woman as prime minister?

Somehow the conservatives krep remaining in power and so we get to choose which out of touch elitist snob gets to ruin the country some more

Her favourite topic is to do away with unions

Latest polls show Labour 17 points ahead of a Conservative party led by Truss.

Starmer is PM in waiting. Didn't take long to undo the damage of the Corbyn years.

FunkyCat posted...

A literal child would be more competent and consistent. We are truly fucked and in the darkest time line.

Her solutions to the struggling poor and middle class is to give the rich tax breaks.

Welcome to America.

Now I don't live in the UK

But as a Canadian who listens to an abnormal amount of UK politics podcasts, I feel qualified to say that that bitch is a fucking bag of hammers.

Gonna read the article, but basically sounds like UK went MAGA.

MabusIncarnate posted...

Gonna read the article, but basically sounds like UK went MAGA.

yup

Boris is worse than Trump

I miss Boris already.

He should have never resigned.

What does a Prime Minister do?

MabusIncarnate posted...

Gonna read the article, but basically sounds like UK went MAGA.

It's not like that at all. It's just Truss is so out of her depth as Prime Minister. She's basically a child putting on her best Thatcher impression. She's totally lacking in charisma.

The closest thing to Trump and his cult would be electing Boris Johnson but he's gone (for now).

MabusIncarnate posted...

Gonna read the article, but basically sounds like UK went MAGA.

We went that way with Boris years ago.

This is just a tiny handful of Tory members deciding to fuck the other 99% of us over without our consent.

miki_sauvester posted...

I miss Boris already.

He should have never resigned.

He absolutely should have, its just that the tories as a whole are a bag of dicks

Trelve posted...

It's not like that at all. It's just Truss is so out of her depth as Prime Minister. She's basically a child putting on her best Thatcher impression. She's totally lacking in charisma.

The closest thing to Trump and his cult would be electing Boris Johnson but he's gone (for now).

So why would they put her in a position of power? I'm kind of educating myself on the election process in the UK, and it seems like being conservatives have control over the parliment, they vote on and decide who is taking over.

It also looks like you all have much younger potential candidates, Kemi Badenoch looks like she's in her 30s.

MabusIncarnate posted...

So why would they put her in a position of power? I'm kind of educating myself on the election process in the UK, and it seems like being conservatives have control over the parliment, they vote on and decide who is taking over.

It also looks like you all have much younger potential candidates, Kemi Badenoch looks like she's in her 30s.

They had the dregs of the dregs to choose from after Boris got rid of anyone with a shed of decency or competence. Her rivals were either more incompetent or racked with scandals of their own.

The tories are in power, so whoever leads them is the PM.

Only people who pay to be Tory members get to vote on their leader, so it means a tiny percentage of the country has a role on who leads us.

AtelierGaming86 posted...

What does a Prime Minister do?

It's the British equivalent of president. I won't pretend I actually understand the political differences exactly but yea. The UK has prime ministers instead of presidents

MabusIncarnate posted...

So why would they put her in a position of power? I'm kind of educating myself on the election process in the UK, and it seems like being conservatives have control over the parliment, they vote on and decide who is taking over.

It also looks like you all have much younger potential candidates, Kemi Badenoch looks like she's in her 30s.

Unlike the US, you don't vote for a prime minister (or President). You vote for someone to represent your constituency in Parliament. The leader of the party with the most seats in Parliament will go to the Queen and be asked to form a government. This is why when one PM stands down, its up to the party to pick their new leader (and new PM by extension). You don't need to call a general election.

The Parliamentary Conservatives ran a leadership contest and narrowed it down to two candidates. Conservative party members then vote on these two. The reason Truss won was because the right wing press see her as a way to carry on a the Boris Legacy - and her rival wasn't white.

Zikten posted...

It's the British equivalent of president. I won't pretend I actually understand the political differences exactly but yea. The UK has prime ministers instead of presidents

The difference is the US votes for a president

The UK votes for their Member of Parliament (MP) IN their constituency. Think like the Senate

Then the party with the most MPs just picks a leader without public intervention

So imagine if Dems had the Senate like they do now, they just picked the president rather than having an election for it.

Thats one of the reasons why conservatives are so much worse in the UK, Boris dominated the election and had an 80 seat majority

Trump is and was always notoriously unpopular among most Americans

Truss has lost a lot of that support because she's female

Thanks for all of the information, hopefully it isn't a complete disaster for you all.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Then the party with the most MPs just picks a leader without public intervention

To clarify this point, since it reads like they choose a leader after the election, the leaders of the parties are chosen before the election in most cases so you go to the polls knowing who will be PM if each party wins. In fact, at least here in Canada, a lot of people vote based on the leader instead of the party. The only times a leader isnt in place is if an election is called while one of the parties is looking for a new leader.

UnfairRepresent posted...

Truss has lost a lot of that support because she's female

Conservatives don't care too much about the gender of their leader. Their most successful and popular leader in recent times was Thatcher after all. Theresa May would have lasted longer if not for Boris Johnson and Brexit.

As long as they're rich, nasty and promise tax cuts for the rich they're happy.

AtelierGaming86 posted...

What does a Prime Minister do?

Drink tea like a boss

Trelve posted...

Conservatives don't care too much about the gender

lol

Yes they do

Their own damn MPs watch porn in the Commons and tell the female MPs that they look like the porn stars

The UK is basically circling the drain into third world territory as the rich drain the place of every single valuable resource and accumulate as much money for themselves as possible before they have to fuck off to somewhere else this winter is looking to kill a lot of people there and screw up the survivors as the ability to earn a livelihood keeps sinking and sinking. Their politics is even worse than ours their public have little to no voice

tremain07 posted...

The UK is basically circling the drain into third world territory as the rich drain the place of every single valuable resource and accumulate as much money for themselves as possible before they have to fuck off to somewhere else this winter is looking to kill a lot of people there and screw up the survivors as the ability to earn a livelihood keeps sinking and sinking. Their politics is even worse than ours their public have little to no voice

And those that do have a voice largely make excuses or pull "this is fine" while defending the right wing

CE is no exception to this. The Brits here have been screaming at me for years for criticising Tories

UnfairRepresent posted...

lol

Yes they do

Their own damn MPs watch porn in the Commons and tell the female MPs that they look like the porn stars

We're up to 3 female Prime Ministers who were all Conservative. Every Tory has wet dreams about the Thatcher years. Regardless of what individual MPs do in the commons, the party membership chose Truss over Sunak.

Trelve posted...

We're up to 3 female Prime Ministers who were all Conservative. Every Tory has wet dreams about the Thatcher years. Regardless of what individual MPs do in the commons, the party membership chose Truss over Sunak.

This reeks of "America isn't racist because Obama is black " logic

But sure, ignore that an overwhelming 80 seat majority including flipping labour seats turned into a 16 point labour lead and tory seats flipping Labour the moment the chick and the brown guy rose through the ranks and Boris was on the out.

Trelve posted...

We're up to 3 female Prime Ministers who were all Conservative. Every Tory has wet dreams about the Thatcher years. Regardless of what individual MPs do in the commons, the party membership chose Truss over Sunak.

Yeah. All they care about is making life easier for the rich. That overrides their disdain for non whites, foreigners, women and even immigrants.

They'd happily vote for an Indian, disabled, trans person if they promised to give the rich tax cuts and deal with benefit scroungers and immigrants.

UnfairRepresent posted...

And those that do have a voice largely make excuses or pull "this is fine" while defending the right wing

CE is no exception to this. The Brits here have been screaming at me for years for criticising Tories

I'm just surprised people thought the corruption would end just because the mop headed buffoon got to ride into the sunset with no real punishment.

tremain07 posted...

I'm just surprised people thought the corruption would end just because the mop headed buffoon got to ride into the sunset with no real punishment.

Don't take anything UR says seriously. I don't know a single brit here who doesn't despise the Tories. No one thinks the corruption will end, no matter what the Tories claim and the BBC happily scream out.

There's a reason the Tories are utterly tanking in voting polls and Labour are slaughtering them. The Tories are on a path to their destruction and are refusing to change course.

tremain07 posted...

I'm just surprised people thought the corruption would end just because the mop headed buffoon got to ride into the sunset with no real punishment.

We even have people in this topic saying he shouldn't have resigned v_v

Yeah he should be in prison

UnfairRepresent posted...

This reeks of "America isn't racist because Obama is black " logic

But sure, ignore that an overwhelming 80 seat majority including flipping labour seats turned into a 16 point labour lead and tory seats flipping Labour the moment the chick and the brown guy rose through the ranks and Boris was on the out.

My point was that the Tories don't care who leads them as long as they're toeing the party line and that's why they've elected 3 women. I'm not denying that the party has a sexism problem but if it truly was as big an issue as you make it out to be, Sunak would be PM right now. Truss is seen as a safe pair of hands by the Johnson loyalists, Sunak knifed Boris in the back.

wow, a lot of posts missing in this topic

Trelve posted...

I'm not denying that the party has a sexism problem but if it truly was as big an issue as you make it out to be, Sunak would be PM right now.

bruh...

Can you guys stop feeding UR please?

I mean it's obvious he doesn't actually live in the UK, but please.

Trelve posted...

Latest polls show Labour 17 points ahead of a Conservative party led by Truss.

Starmer is PM in waiting. Didn't take long to undo the damage of the Corbyn years.

Idk, when you get sacked from the Labor shadow govt for standing with strikers on the picket lines, I'd say the damage is pretty far from undone

Liz Truss being introduced as the new PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nih63RkReSI

UnfairRepresent posted...

This reeks of "America isn't racist because Obama is black " logic

But sure, ignore that an overwhelming 80 seat majority including flipping labour seats turned into a 16 point labour lead and tory seats flipping Labour the moment the chick and the brown guy rose through the ranks and Boris was on the out.

Is there going to be a snap election though? My understanding is that the next general election isn't till 2025, which is plenty of time for labour to trash that lead.

ScazarMeltex posted...

Is there going to be a snap election though? My understanding is that the next general election isn't till 2025, which is plenty of time for labour to trash that lead.

They have an outright majority so the only reason they have to call a snap election would be if they think they can strengthen their position.

Which means there's zero chance of it happening.

AtelierGaming86 posted...

What does a Prime Minister do?

Run the country.

Bio1590 posted...

They have an outright majority so the only reason they have to call a snap election would be if they think they can strengthen their position.

Which means there's zero chance of it happening.

Maybe if we all riot and burn parliament down we might have a slither of a chance. Otherwise none.

At least your country is willing to have a woman leader. Our country would rather elect a domestic terrorist than a vagina-haver.

>_>