Current Events > How do you feel about AI art?

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Typing stuff into a prompt and seeing the computer create an original drawing or painting for you is a lot of fun. It can provide inspiration for new creative works. And if you can run it yourself or access a paid service that allows you to use what you created commercially, you might try your hand at pairing AI art with some other medium you care about like writing for example to push yourself forward.

But what I don't agree with is the stance that has made art that they can be proud of or take credit for. Using an AI image "tool" like Midjourney is exactly like hiring hiring a guy on Fiverr to draw something you think might be cool, only it's much cheaper and faster. It's not about "gate keeping" or elitism, it's about honesty. I saw a couple of people in a comment section on Ars Technica saying that they lack the time and talent to learn art, and now they can finally make the art they've always wanted to make. Except you can't? I'm not a professional artist and my skills aren't great, but there is a sort of synergy between the person making something and the thing getting made. If I sit down and ask Midjourney to make me a cute anime girl made out of tentacles, it will spit out something cool (if the filter gods allow). But I didn't paint, draw or sculpt that. It's like commissioning a piece of fan art versus, you know, actually making one yourself.

Then there is the issue of the training sets. Human artists get inspiration from people all the time, but web scraping can be a legally nebulous area. There is a difference between posting your art or photos so someone can look at them, and posting them so that they can be sucked up and used in a commercial software product without your consent. I don't know in the end what lawmakers around the world will have to say about things like taking training data without asking, but consider: if every time you posted something to social media there was a checkbox asking if your content could be used to train AI tools, how often would you consent to such usage?

Interesting, inspiring---disgusting. I have a lot of thoughts. What are yours CE?

Better than abstract art but has even less personality somehow.

I have no feeling whatsoever about it

Can be a neat tool but it doesn't make you an artist

Lost_All_Senses posted...

Better than abstract art but has even less personality somehow.

I'll give you the second part of that...but I make and enjoy abstract art, so I feel compelled to defend its merits.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

I have no feeling whatsoever about it

Check out my other topic then and see what you think!
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80146569

SSJKirby posted...

Can be a neat tool but it doesn't make you an artist

I agree with this completely.

Im not too sure but i think it can be used as a cool template to build off from

AI art can be a nice tool and/or hobby, but much of what it puts out is pretty soulless. Manmade art will always be superior.

Until A compare can be programed to my lewd furry art, artist will always have a way to make money since for some reason those people are loaded.

i love that it scales beauty, i could look at it for hours, it's captivating

i think this cambrian explosion in deep learning will unlock a lot of innovation in a lot of different sectors

and yet i'm also utterly horrified by the broader long-term implications of the underlying technology

It kinda annoys me as an artist.

Plus, AI created art cannot be copyrighted, so it seems pointless to me to try and spread it so much.

Pretending you put in the work to make it - unless you wrote the code that generated it (which would mean you did do the work, just in a different way than traditionally done) - is iffy. Enjoying the result or (honestly) using it as a substitute for art skills is not an issue.

Personally to me its just something i fuck around with out of facinatiom to see what the AI is or isnt good at and see what it can make.

Also, i dont nessicarily agree that AI art is soulless or lesser (in an athsetics stance) then human art in all categories. Yeah it kinda sucks at making more focused pieces or human faces that dont feel at least a little uncanny, in that sense it is definitely lesser. But they can make some pretty amazing landscape/background kind of stuff that you probably couldnt tell was mace by an AI, especially with some editing like that guy who controversially won that art show with AI art.

It's definitely disengenous to say that you made the art completely though if all you did was generate a picture and apply some touchups to it...

edit: heres some bonus skellies that stable diffusion just popped out
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/0/AAZkZ6AADrAA.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/6/1/AAZkZ6AADrAB.jpg
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darkmaian23 posted...

I'll give you the second part of that...but I make and enjoy abstract art, so I feel compelled to defend its merits.

It probably has some I just don't care to explore lol. Nothing wrong with it as a hobby. But if you're trying to convince people it's worth thousands of dollars, I can't see the difference between that and other scammers. All art is overpriced, but that especially. Then there's the side of me that respects the social aspect of the hustle.

Don't like it.

It's great. For a "professional" artist it's another tool - as people have said, the same fears were expressed over photoshop or the invention of the camera making paintings obsolete. It just became another form of art.

I really appreciate that the blender I use doesn't have "filter gods" and doesn't gatekeep. I've seen some of the steep requirements on other ones where certain words can get someone in trouble when you don't know what they are, you just gotta hope to avoid them. The fewer hoops the better.

Once everyone has greater access to these tools, and they continue to improve, it thrills me to think about "professional" egos that can be replaced by a better AI in seconds. Conservatives know where the art world largely stands, we've seen people smear paint randomly or submit blank canvases as "art" and demand huge sums for them. The old talking point was that a child could do better, now a machine can do better. AI has more of a claim on real art than these guys. We don't need to spend huge amounts of money, waste, government patronage when a free program can provide a better product.

it's the definition of 'hit or miss'

I don't like it.
My first thought is what I saw happen to TF2 animations over the past few years.
They added these tools a while ago where you make the keyframes and it approximates frames between them to create a fluid albeit robotic looking animation. It was lauded as a great help to new animators and a way to speed up/foolproof the animation process. Skip a few years and now the overwhelming majority of videos look the same and completely lack personality. There are of course people who aren't relying on it but even those rub me the wrong way because bringing production values to a dumb fad always signals more that the creator is in it for the YT views than the entertainment value.

Even worse there's now AI voices, grainy, robotic sounding text to speech versions of the TF2 voices. I think the sentence mixing was key to those videos so now that they have a text to speech system, I'm already seeing things going downhill. More generic meme recitations as dialogue, a complete lack of inflection, people uploading conversations between characters instead of bothering with the videos.

Removing the creativity and trusting computers with the whole task is a horrible idea.
I find flaws a lot more endearing than glitches.

Personally, I can't get over people posting things like how proud they are of their piece. That was literally made by typing in a pretty plain sentence of text and then waiting for the computer to spit out something cool that you can feel like you made.

Like this one (scroll a little for the super simple MJ prompt):
https://www.reddit.com/r/aiArt/comments/xdi449/particularly_proud_of_this_one_human_throne/

Or this one (Project? Really? At least this guy tried some different prompts):
https://www.reddit.com/r/aiArt/comments/xfg8tn/first_midjourney_project/

It's an absolute blast to play with AI art, but unless you're really doing something transformative, you aren't making anything.

darkmaian23 posted...

Personally, I can't get over people posting things like how proud they are of their piece. That was literally made by typing in a pretty plain sentence of text and then waiting for the computer to spit out something cool that you can feel like you made.

isn't it a combination of not just prompts, but also weights, counterweights, training inputs, occasionally outputs re-fed back into the mix, and finally discretion in choosing from different resultant outputs?

there seems to be a bit of a meta-artistry / curation at play within the generative process.

but i guess it depends on the deep image generation technology they're working with.

It's causing all sorts of issues tb

To the point that the international community couldn't prevent a "strategic operation"