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PowerOats
09/14/22 4:11:20 PM
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Or any other game really would be a better option than Symphonia 1 yet again
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Flauros
09/14/22 4:14:40 PM
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They should have done Graces F.

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Alteres
09/14/22 4:20:48 PM
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I don't want to get my gamecube out of storage, I still have my 3ds and switch.

TBH I don't think I ever finished the first time around >_>

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Solar_Crimson
09/14/22 4:26:51 PM
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Symphonia needed a remake, not another remaster. Especially not a lazy one like the one announced.

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Reave314
09/14/22 4:28:44 PM
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I'd like a remastered Abyss only if they did something to improve the game's pacing in the latter half, or at least add more skip traveling for the like 5000 times the game makes you return to Daath at various plot points.

Still wouldn't change the fact that the game's story/plot has always rubbed me the wrong way, though, specifically early on.
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TaylorHeinicke
09/14/22 4:37:23 PM
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Alteres posted...
I don't want to get my gamecube out of storage, I still have my 3ds and switch.

TBH I don't think I ever finished the first time around >_>
yeah i dont want to dig my ps3 up either. i think they realize people will pay for the convenience of not dusting off old consoles and going through the hassle of messing with all the cords behind the TV just to play one game.

it works and i'll pay for it every time for a game as great as symphonia

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KainWind
09/14/22 4:41:23 PM
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I'm happy about Symphonia and I have it on pc but I'd love one of the ones I never got to play like Graces or Xillia. I don't know much about those.

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Irony
09/14/22 5:03:15 PM
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Flauros posted...
They should have done Graces F.
There are like 7 or 8 Tales games that deserve it before Graces F

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JuanCarlos1
09/14/22 5:05:21 PM
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Solar_Crimson posted...
Symphonia needed a remake, not another remaster. Especially not a lazy one like the one announced.

Remaking tales games is kinda pointless since theyre more about stylish anime graphics than being a graphic powerhouse. Hell arise is the first game in the series that looks high budget

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Null_Gain
09/14/22 5:06:19 PM
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Reave314 posted...
I'd like a remastered Abyss only if they did something to improve the game's pacing in the latter half, or at least add more skip traveling for the like 5000 times the game makes you return to Daath at various plot points.

Still wouldn't change the fact that the game's story/plot has always rubbed me the wrong way, though, specifically early on.

My biggest complaint was how all the main characters were all ragging on about how terrible Luke was yet everyone (except Guy) were bigger garbage cans than Luke ever was. I guess Jade might be exempt from this too, just because he's a straight out sociopath who really wouldn't know better.


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Raikuro
09/14/22 5:15:02 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Remaking tales games is kinda pointless since theyre more about stylish anime graphics than being a graphic powerhouse. Hell arise is the first game in the series that looks high budget
Remake doesn't just mean better graphics. ToS can easily benefit from adding free run and revamp the magic system.
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silverpine
09/14/22 5:18:49 PM
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would love to give tales of the abyss another play through someday
i loved it but you know people really criticize it, i want to see for myself
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Solar_Crimson
09/14/22 5:26:11 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Remaking tales games is kinda pointless since theyre more about stylish anime graphics than being a graphic powerhouse. Hell arise is the first game in the series that looks high budget
Just give me a Tales of Symphonia remake with the graphics and presentation of later games like Xillia and Berseria, and I'll be set.

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DezDroppedFreak
09/14/22 5:36:02 PM
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JuanCarlos1 posted...
Remaking tales games is kinda pointless since theyre more about stylish anime graphics than being a graphic powerhouse. Hell arise is the first game in the series that looks high budget
Play arise

then go back and play symphonia

then see if you still feel that way

because man that combat could use an overhaul

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kelemvor
09/14/22 5:39:36 PM
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Do we know for sure yet if the new Symphonia re-re-rerelease is finally going to be up to the GameCube standard of 60fps battles? They said "enahanced graphics" on the Nintendo Direct.

Do you guys remember the outcry when even the Steam version was hard coded for 30 fps on both the battles and world map? (albeit at 4K resolution).
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Solar_Crimson
09/14/22 5:41:14 PM
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kelemvor posted...
Do we know for sure yet if the new Symphonia re-re-rerelease is finally going to be up to the GameCube standard of 60fps battles? They said "enahanced graphics" on the Nintendo Direct.
It's already confirmed to be running at 30fps all the way through:
https://nintendoeverything.com/tales-of-symphonia-remastered-confirmed-to-run-at-1080p-docked-720p-handheld-30-fps/

And it's for all platforms, not just the Switch.

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Etna
09/14/22 5:41:48 PM
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Irony posted...
There are like 7 or 8 Tales games that deserve it before Graces F
No

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Irony
09/14/22 5:51:32 PM
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What I said was a fact.

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Scintillant
09/14/22 5:54:57 PM
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I would prefer Graces f or either of the Xillia titles, personally. If they just want a remaster choose something that is locked on ps3 still.

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Lairen
09/14/22 5:55:38 PM
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Tales games are so amazingly average i feel like im missing something when i play them.

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CreekCo
09/14/22 6:01:27 PM
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Flauros posted...
They should have done Graces F.

Best battle system imo

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ProboBum
09/14/22 6:12:36 PM
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Should've been Tales of Hearts R instead so it doesn't have to die in obscurity on the Vita. Oh well....Vita emulation is finally a thing (still early days though) and it's only a matter of time that it becomes playable there.

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Reave314
09/14/22 7:09:19 PM
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Null_Gain posted...
My biggest complaint was how all the main characters were all ragging on about how terrible Luke was yet everyone (except Guy) were bigger garbage cans than Luke ever was. I guess Jade might be exempt from this too, just because he's a straight out sociopath who really wouldn't know better.

As funny as Jade is, it kinda bugs me that his sociopathy is literally required, since otherwise the game's plot would fall apart within 10 seconds. Someone who knows as much as he does isn't the sort of person you normally have on the main cast of a game like this, for this very reason.

Which would be fine on its own, but literally half the playable cast of Abyss are keeping plot-critical secrets (and the less said about Anise, the better).

On top of... just everything about what happens at Akzeriuth.
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yusiko
09/14/22 7:13:15 PM
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anise was literally forced to do what she did
dont understand why people act like she did her bad things out of her own free will.

the power ranger costumes are funny cause guys voice actor was a power ranger
johnny yong bosch
also the men have crotch bulges when wearing those skin tight power ranger suits which i liked
also in japan luke outright believes that guy is gay and thats why he is afraid of women
that got removed from the english version

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Reave314
09/14/22 7:30:57 PM
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yusiko posted...
anise was literally forced to do what she did
dont understand why people act like she did her bad things out of her own free will.

It's more the fact that she gets instantly forgiven after everyone spent the first third of the game shitting on Luke for damn near everything he did or said (when he also had legitimate reasons for being the way he was) and he had to earn everyone's trust back.

Like, Akzeriuth was 100% Van's doing. Luke had absolutely zero reason not to trust him, since the only people trying to make a case against doing so were... a girl who he still barely even knew at the time, and some guy who mysteriously looks just like him and has tried to murder him at least once by that point. To Luke, Van was something of a hero, someone who was always there for him, the only real friend he had besides Guy.

And even then, by the end, Van literally has Luke hypnotized/under his power, so he couldn't stop it even if he tried. Then, having been betrayed by one of the only friends he thought he'd had, Luke then has to get shit on by the entire party essentially acting like he willingly sank an entire city of innocent people.

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FF_Redux
09/14/22 7:32:25 PM
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We need a Tales of Legendia remake.

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PowerOats
09/14/22 8:41:31 PM
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I agree ^

and bring the vita one over too
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Strider102
09/14/22 9:14:59 PM
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I thought this got announced and entered with excitement.

I now leave sad, confused, and angry.

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Umbreon
09/14/22 9:30:34 PM
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I hope they actually have it at 60 fps this time, and not have certain voices for artes too low.

And yeah, Tales of the Abyss... As much as I liked the game overall, most of the main cast are assholes. Unlike Luke, most of them don't have a good excuse either.

It just came off as Luke being shamed for not knowing Van was evil... except most of the characters shaming him had info that Luke didn't, and decided to just keep to themselves for whatever reason. Then it's revealed that Luke is literally like 7 years old. So they're blaming a child for trusting the one man he fully trusted and being mind controlled into destroying a city?

The thing I never got about Anise is her interaction with Arietta after Ion died. No mention of Mohs forcing him to read the score, no mention of her being forced to work with him to protect her family. Just "Yeah, I killed Ion. Whatcha gonna do about it bitch?" Arietta obviously gets pissed, challenges Anise to a duel, and then dies pitifully.

Like why?

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