Current Events > Blah a lot of the young men I teach/mentor keep bringing up Andrew Tate

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CruelBuffalo
09/20/22 11:19:04 AM
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:/

What would be the millennial version of this dbag when we were younger?
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DrizztLink
09/20/22 11:19:34 AM
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Tucker Max

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PoopPotato
09/20/22 11:22:32 AM
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DrizztLink posted...
Tucker Max
His book was funny, even if all the stories were fake.

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lennethsoki
09/20/22 11:24:15 AM
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In my volunteer ESOL-teaching time, a few of my students from Vietnam, Japan, and Persia mentioned him and "how cool he is". Not a lot, but it's happened over the past few months.

I thought it was interesting.

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 11:24:57 AM
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What do you mentor people to achieve?

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Mia_K97
09/20/22 11:25:41 AM
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What did he do wrong?
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WingsOfGood
09/20/22 11:26:20 AM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
:/

What would be the millennial version of this dbag when we were younger?

tbh don't think there is a comparison

the world didn't have the internet as it does today to allow such a person to be propped up

I guess you could compare to that religious channel where they sold people miracle water or like Benny Hinn screaming fire to heal crippled people who actually didn't get healed
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WingsOfGood
09/20/22 11:30:47 AM
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or maybe some pyramid scammer

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/24/business/famous-ponzi-schemes-generation-hustle/index.html

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warlock7735
09/20/22 11:30:48 AM
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Mia_K97 posted...
What did he do wrong?
Fleeing allegations of securely assault and trafficking, iirc.

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 11:31:47 AM
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warlock7735 posted...



Thats a lie.

If I was Andrew, I would do something about people spreading fake news about me.


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wackyteen
09/20/22 11:34:12 AM
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Ofc yws is a Tate stan

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meestermj
09/20/22 11:37:52 AM
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Andrew Tate is human garbage

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Solar_Crimson
09/20/22 11:38:20 AM
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Mia_K97 posted...
What did he do wrong?
Fled the country to Romania to dodge rape charges.
Is being investigated for kidnapping and human-trafficking.
Also believes that women are inferior.

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 11:40:20 AM
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Solar_Crimson posted...



You cant provide a shred of evidence for any of these claims.

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Alteres
09/20/22 11:40:56 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
tbh don't think there is a comparison

the world didn't have the internet as it does today to allow such a person to be propped up

I guess you could compare to that religious channel where they sold people miracle water or like Benny Hinn screaming fire to heal crippled people who actually didn't get healed
John Wayne etc etc on down? I think you could find people you felt the same way about.

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lennethsoki
09/20/22 11:41:39 AM
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Mia_K97 posted...
What did he do wrong?

Apparently abuse and trafficking.

Although personally, when I looked into it I never saw any concrete evidence regarding that. In fact, I saw more often than not the alleged victims speaking up for him, calling the notion absurd.

He's also pretty blunt with how he proposes his views, so I could see him hurting people's feelings in that regard. I don't agree with everything he says, but I don't have thin skin so it doesn't really bother me.

It's weird, because after looking into him with all the horrid allegations, he actually gives some very solid advice for getting ahead in life and being motivated, some that I even tried to preach to my own friends and acquaintances in the past to improve either mentally, financially, or physically :/

Again, he has some pretty wild beliefs and his bluntness doesn't register well with many, but I saw a lot of good stuff there and very, very little of the bad I'd heard so much about.

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Fony
09/20/22 11:43:01 AM
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More derangement over this guy. I have to say, the people still spreading the false claims are pretty sad though. What's the point of banning him when everyone still talks about him and posts his shit.

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yusiko
09/20/22 11:46:14 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHD8Jun3eUc

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epik_fail1
09/20/22 11:50:06 AM
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He apparently promote a pyramid scheme and manipulate young men into it.

People says he is misogynistic (I have never seen his content though)

There rumors about sex trafficking(apparently unproven)

I did not even knew who he was until a few weeks ago. I am just telling you what people says about him

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Gamespoht
09/20/22 11:51:45 AM
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Close friend of mine started following all that bullshit believing in gender roles, trading and cheating on his partner

It bothers me, I've made it clear how much I think tate is a piece of shit but he doesn't care, he thinks he's smart when all he does is manipulate young men and spreads toxicity

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Umbreon
09/20/22 11:52:59 AM
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If someone is in the "manosphere", assume their goal is to exploit lonely men in some way.


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Mia_K97
09/20/22 11:53:54 AM
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lennethsoki posted...
Apparently abuse and trafficking.

Although personally, when I looked into it I never saw any concrete evidence regarding that. In fact, I saw more often than not the alleged victims speaking up for him, calling the notion absurd.

He's also pretty blunt with how he proposes his views, so I could see him hurting people's feelings in that regard. I don't agree with everything he says, but I don't have thin skin so it doesn't really bother me.

It's weird, because after looking into him with all the horrid allegations, he actually gives some very solid advice for getting ahead in life and being motivated, some that I even tried to preach to my own friends and acquaintances in the past to improve either mentally, financially, or physically :/

Again, he has some pretty wild beliefs and his bluntness doesn't register well with many, but I saw a lot of good stuff there and very, very little of the bad I'd heard so much about.

so basically nothing but allegations & accusations?
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Popcorn2000
09/20/22 11:55:06 AM
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RashodBateman posted...
Ruffled feathers.

His alpha energy made people shriek in horror.

Andrew Tate is a literal world champion kickboxer.

He used to punch and kick people in the face for a living.

If you want to be a man then you have to have strong principles and discipline and also a strong belief in God.

Ilbrilliant satire
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Umbreon
09/20/22 11:55:16 AM
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Fresh accounts rabidly defending this man.


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epik_fail1
09/20/22 11:55:58 AM
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Umbreon posted...
Fresh accounts rabidly defending this man.

I honestly think they are trolling just to make people mad for some reasons

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SodomInsane
09/20/22 11:56:20 AM
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I think a major issue is no one links to or provides examples of men to follow instead. Causing those young men to follow Andrew Tate since he is the one getting discussed and not the good role models.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/22 11:56:51 AM
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RashodBateman posted...
Ruffled feathers.

His alpha energy made people shriek in horror.

Andrew Tate is a literal world champion kickboxer.

He used to punch and kick people in the face for a living.

If you want to be a man then you have to have strong principles and discipline and also a strong belief in God.
If you want to be a man you need to be a man. Thats it. There are no prerequisites to behaviour that make one a man. If you want to be a good man, you need to have compassion, empathy and love in your heart. You also need to stand up to hatred, bigotry and sexisim. You have to stand up for equality, fair treatment of everyone and the rights for others.

If you want to be a bad man, you can follow the advice of people like Andrew Tate.

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Damn_Underscore
09/20/22 11:58:08 AM
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Andrew Tate was the world's first trillionaire, of course guys are going to look up to him

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Ratchetrockon
09/20/22 11:58:37 AM
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he just seems like a gateway to that redpill community. i got sucked into their idealogy as a teenager from the Bodybuilding MISC forum which lead me to browsing other sites like lookism, puahate, and sluthate. he is just another way into that type of thing.

i did have some troubling views about women for about 6 years. id say i was pretty much the typical internet incel during that timepsan. some circumstances in life changed my way of thinking though and now i just try not to even look at red pill material now.

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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/22 12:00:46 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
he just seems like a gateway to that redpill community. i got sucked into their idealogy as a teenager from the Bodybuilding MISC forum which lead me to browsing other sites like lookism, puahate, and sluthate. he is just another way into that type of thing.

i did have some troubling views about women for about 6 years. id say i was pretty much the typical internet incel during that timepsan. some circumstances in life changed my way of thinking though and now i just try not to even look at red pill material now.
Glad you got past that and hope you continue down a healthier road.

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Damn_Underscore
09/20/22 12:01:12 PM
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epik_fail1 posted...
I honestly think they are trolling just to make people mad for some reasons

It's pretty obvious that Andrew Tate was playing a character. I don't see how going along with that is worse than pretending he wasn't a character and getting offended at that. Remember Stephen Colbert's character back in the day? Imagine if people seriously supported that and on the other hand, wanted to ban him from all platforms to shut him up.

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 12:01:36 PM
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Again.

Tons of users making accusations with ZERO evidence.

When asked for proof, they say youre a stan or a defender.

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Umbreon
09/20/22 12:01:48 PM
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SodomInsane posted...
I think a major issue is no one links to or provides examples of men to follow instead. Causing those young men to follow Andrew Tate since he is the one getting discussed and not the good role models.


This is a good point actually. A lot of young people are looking for guidance for one reason or another. It's easy to get taken down the wrong path.

Hell I myself am familiar with the whole red pill "spectrum"... because a younger me took a look at it because I didn't really have direction in life. If I didn't notice the ugliness of it all and rejected it, I can't imagine how I would have turned out.


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Srk700
09/20/22 12:03:06 PM
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Tate's advice regarding women is a good if you want the cops called on you and restraining orders placed against you.
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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/22 12:03:10 PM
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RashodBateman posted...
Again.

Tons of users making accusations with ZERO evidence.

When asked for proof, they say youre a stan or a defender
Or, the more likely scenario is that you are obviously not worth engaging with because it is very clear what you're trying to do based on your account creation date and posts you've been making on CE since creating your account. You want actual discourse, prove it.

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epik_fail1
09/20/22 12:06:49 PM
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RashodBateman posted...
Again.

Tons of users making accusations with ZERO evidence.

When asked for proof, they say youre a stan or a defender.

Maybe the allegations are false, but he did prey on young men with his pyramid schemes

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PiOverlord
09/20/22 12:07:14 PM
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There are way too many avenues for young guys to get manipulated on the internet nowadays. As always, the young men are treated as tools for the manipulators to make money off of.

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Hoodroar
09/20/22 12:08:21 PM
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He sucks but people don't do compelling jobs of countering his arguments and clarifying why acting like him isn't the way. Calling everyone incels and misogynists isn't it.

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Umbreon
09/20/22 12:12:22 PM
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RashodBateman posted...
Again.

Tons of users making accusations with ZERO evidence.

When asked for proof, they say youre a stan or a defender.


I imagine most people don't feel the need to prove themselves to accounts that, in all likelihood, won't survive the month.

He has been accused of crimes, and is currently under investigation. These are facts. Whatever or not said accusations are accurate have yet to be determined.

As for hateful comments... He said women rape victims shared some responsibility for being raped. That alone is worthy of his exile from several platforms.

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 12:15:28 PM
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We dont need to provide evidence or proof for the serious claims we are making.

Yikes.

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silverpine
09/20/22 12:18:19 PM
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IfGodCouldDie
09/20/22 12:18:53 PM
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RashodBateman posted...
We dont need to provide evidence or proof for the serious claims we are making.

Yikes.
Can you just shut the fuck up and get banned again? Afterward just do yourself a favour and don't make another account. I can't imagine coming to a website just to be constantly humiliated and shit on is good for your mental health.

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 12:20:07 PM
#48:


Hes a meme in plain text:

PANEL 1: Andrew Tate did XYZ.

PANEL 2: Prove it.

PANEL 3: =-|

PANEL 4: >=-(

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RashodBateman
09/20/22 12:22:41 PM
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RashodBateman posted...
You cant provide a shred of evidence for any of these claims.

RashodBateman posted...
Again.

Tons of users making accusations with ZERO evidence.

When asked for proof, they say youre a stan or a defender.

RashodBateman posted...
Hes a meme in plain text:

PANEL 1: Andrew Tate did XYZ.

PANEL 2: Prove it.

PANEL 3: =-|

PANEL 4: >=-(


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