Current Events > Blah a lot of the young men I teach/mentor keep bringing up Andrew Tate

(+) Yeah! (+)

Again.

Tons of users making accusations with ZERO evidence.

When asked for proof, they say youre a stan or a defender.

We dont need to provide evidence or proof for the serious claims we are making.

Yikes.

Hes a meme in plain text:

PANEL 1: Andrew Tate did XYZ.

PANEL 2: Prove it.

PANEL 3: =-|

PANEL 4: >=-(

Or, the more likely scenario is that you are obviously not worth engaging with because it is very clear what you're trying to do based on your account creation date and posts you've been making on CE since creating your account. You want actual discourse, prove it.

I imagine most people don't feel the need to prove themselves to accounts that, in all likelihood, won't survive the month.

He has been accused of crimes, and is currently under investigation. These are facts. Whatever or not said accusations are accurate have yet to be determined.

As for hateful comments... He said women rape victims shared some responsibility for being raped. That alone is worthy of his exile from several platforms.

Hmm I seem to have been blocked by post 51 even though I wasn't addressing anyone in particular

[blocks and paragraphs of text that DO NOT include a shred of evidence of the claims youve made against Tate]

Or, the more likely scenario is that you are obviously not worth engaging with because it is very clear what you're trying to do based on your account creation date and posts you've been making on CE since creating your account. You want actual discourse, prove it.

I imagine most people don't feel the need to prove themselves to accounts that, in all likelihood, won't survive the month.

He has been accused of crimes, and is currently under investigation. These are facts. Whatever or not said accusations are accurate have yet to be determined.

As for hateful comments... He said women rape victims shared some responsibility for being raped. That alone is worthy of his exile from several platforms.

Hmm I seem to have been blocked by post 51 even though I wasn't addressing anyone in particular

Imagine going this hard for a man under investigation for human trafficking.

Going hard = asking for proof of a serious accusation.

Funny how this is being used as an excuse to continue to divert from the fact that youve not supported your claim with any links to verified information or sources.

IfGodCouldDie posted...
Or, the more likely scenario is that you are obviously not worth engaging with because it is very clear what you're trying to do based on your account creation date and posts you've been making on CE since creating your account. You want actual discourse, prove it.

Umbreon posted...
I imagine most people don't feel the need to prove themselves to accounts that, in all likelihood, won't survive the month.

He has been accused of crimes, and is currently under investigation. These are facts. Whatever or not said accusations are accurate have yet to be determined.

As for hateful comments... He said women rape victims shared some responsibility for being raped. That alone is worthy of his exile from several platforms.

People really thought they wouldnt get challenged when making false statements.

LOL

IfGodCouldDie posted...
IfGodCouldDie posted...
Or, the more likely scenario is that you are obviously not worth engaging with because it is very clear what you're trying to do based on your account creation date and posts you've been making on CE since creating your account. You want actual discourse, prove it.

Umbreon posted...
I imagine most people don't feel the need to prove themselves to accounts that, in all likelihood, won't survive the month.

He has been accused of crimes, and is currently under investigation. These are facts. Whatever or not said accusations are accurate have yet to be determined.

As for hateful comments... He said women rape victims shared some responsibility for being raped. That alone is worthy of his exile from several platforms.

Notice how my post (Explaining that Tate is under investigation) was ignored. Because this user is looking for a fight, not an honest discussion.

Because he is undeniably under investigation.

1. He promotes men to abused women and targets incels who take his courses. A video leaked of him abusing a woman and making her cry and he claims she wanted it and this is how real men treat women.
2. This is important because he sells a class of how to be a pickup artists so lonely men are buying into his abusive bs.
3. His class is also pyramid scheme were he gives credits if you recruit others so you don't have to pay the overpriced fee.
4. Turns out he fled a country because he is in legal trouble for literal human trafficking of women.

Notice how my post (Explaining that Tate is under investigation) was ignored. Because this user is looking for a fight, not an honest discussion.

Because he is undeniably under investigation.

Anyone who has listened to the dude for a couple of minutes knows his schtick is misogyny.

So, anybody trying to defend him without saying "misogyny is actually good" is just arguing in bad faith. Trying to make their new social messiah look good.

Because he is undeniably under investigation.

No. His shtick is anti-all people. It's anti-women and it's anti-men and it's anti-a lot of other groups. It's about how he is the greatest person ever. And a lot of insecure people see his confidence/cockiness and want to be like that so they will be successful like him. But at the same time he is so over-the-top that if he isn't actually playing a character he might as well be.

But no one is responding to me in this topic so whatever, I'm done.

For someone so obsessed with the man, you'd think he know more about him.

Tate said to abuse women is how to get laid. This wasn't out of context.

Essentially he claims the woman he beat and is crying on video was a bdsm thing. Which if true would have been an okish defense against THAT claim.

But the issue is he reacted to his own clip and said this is how you treat women. If you are a real man, this is how you act etc.

So hard to not call him a woman beater when his reaction to his own clip of him beating a woman is to say this is what you should do as a man.

That's what he does. He says the most ridiculous things all the time. If you want to know how he is a man-hater, he says things like being masculine is the only way to live, and there is a giant list of things that aren't masculine. Things like dancing, being cold, or licking an ice cream cone aren't masculine and real men don't do them. He is Poe's Law personified.

the manosphere is a scam that hates both men and women and wants to fleece money from idiots

"he didn't mean it!!"

meanwhile literally has a country investigating him for abusing women via trafficking

hmm....

why would you....

defend this guy?

thinking : emoji

https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/celebrity/the-history-of-andrew-tates-controversial-behavior
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/aug/06/andrew-tate-violent-misogynistic-world-of-tiktok-new-star

Both articles mention that he's still under investigation for human trafficking.