Board 8 > Save My Favorite Final Fantasy Characters XXIV: Final Results and Discussion

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Grimlyn
09/26/22 3:30:54 AM
#101:


pretty sure if Ramza fell early we would've been looking at a Layle championship, I've run the simulations

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actually here's the contest re-ran using only historical save data of this contest itself: ignoring Finals day data because +10 saves for Aeris & Ramza would be a pretty big deal

https://gmun.moe/savemy/emulated-xxiv2.html

same top 5 but Aeris wins... also Mira somehow jumped up from 5th last to just after boots tho hell yeah

how dare bot taunt me with a repeated 26th placement for Layle pffff

full disclosure there was another run but I forgot to update the attendance/arrival/savespeed stats so i had to run it again (hence the two).... first run had Celes #3 somehow still aaaah

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 7:41:04 AM
#102:


WarThaNemesis2 posted...
It's weird because a piece of Ramza's run was picking up the Dad support, which gave him time to pick up Emet-Selch's support.

With Ramza out, VI probably focuses more on the Dads, so my guess is that Dad finishes a couple spots higher, possibly even top ten, as the big change, instead of FFT hitting a final, and one of his other high priorities picks up me and gravy when Dad drops.

This is probably it yeah

Ive seen Delita get a big run recently, and Im not very passionate about Algus doing this even if it would be pretty cool for that bastard to make a big run

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andylt
09/26/22 8:23:47 AM
#103:


Sounds like it's time for the grand return of Teta Hyral

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 9:14:39 AM
#104:


Given lefty has been pushing this earlier we probably arent gonna get XVI or Rebirth by the time the next contest comes out right

we get the crisis core remake at least

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FFDragon
09/26/22 10:07:34 AM
#105:


Cissnei and Jessie superior 7 chick runs let's go

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MartinFF7
09/26/22 10:08:48 AM
#106:


I'm not sure how I feel about Cissnei remaster re-design... #notmycissnei

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=houazcKTPv4

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Steiner
09/26/22 10:09:30 AM
#107:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Given lefty has been pushing this earlier we probably arent gonna get XVI or Rebirth by the time the next contest comes out right

nah lefty told me he's putting up noms next week

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andylt
09/26/22 11:06:47 AM
#108:


MartinFF7 posted...
I'm not sure how I feel about Cissnei remaster re-design... #notmycissnei
what is this dialogue

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MartinFF7
09/26/22 11:22:10 AM
#109:


That's not the full scene, they cut a chunk out of it. It's a very nice moment in full context!

But also it's Crisis Core so brace yourself for cringe dialogue, yeah
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illuminatusbubu
09/26/22 11:50:11 AM
#110:


Congrats to Ramza and all his supporters. It's time for Tactics for join the winner rank.

Next year will be the time for Tifa!!

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FFDragon
09/26/22 11:52:49 AM
#111:


illuminatusbubu posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1etv81M1fo&ab_channel=UpUpDownDown

MWC banned in 3... 2... 1...

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Lopen
09/26/22 12:02:39 PM
#112:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Im not very passionate about Algus doing this

How I feel about Ramza tbh

I am glad he won but he's probably like #6 of Tactics reps I would have liked to win. (Algus > Agrias > Gafgarion > Mustadio > Delita > Ramza)

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Leonhart4
09/26/22 12:03:35 PM
#113:


Algus doing anything other than finishing 100th is a dark timeline

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Nanis23
09/26/22 12:06:28 PM
#114:


th3l3fty posted...
Before final STATS, one last list...
Oh I thought that by "final STATS" you meant the current placement of all characters

Why is this such a heavily guarded secret

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 12:06:30 PM
#115:


Leonhart4 posted...
Algus doing anything other than finishing 100th is a dark timeline

Hes finished in the top 40 3 years in a row now

then again Tactics got 3 straight top 3s without a single one before that

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KommunistKoala
09/26/22 12:14:58 PM
#116:


4 straight main character or villain victories and 5 of the last 6

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Mewtwo59
09/26/22 12:15:46 PM
#117:


Well, I'm glad to have been wrong. After Delita's poor performance, I didn't think a Tactics character could beat anyone with any sort of strength. But Ramza proved me wrong and got us a good winner.

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 12:16:58 PM
#118:


KommunistKoala posted...
4 straight main character or villain victories and 5 of the last 6

Kefka is the main character of VI so you dont need to put the villain clause there

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 12:19:30 PM
#119:


Mewtwo59 posted...
Well, I'm glad to have been wrong. After Delita's poor performance, I didn't think a Tactics character could beat anyone with any sort of strength. But Ramza proved me wrong and got us a good winner.

Think Squall was just a monster that year.

but yeah Ramza has more broad appeal than Delita so him looking great in a finals wasnt that shocking, was expecting it to be way closer heading in

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Hades
09/26/22 12:25:38 PM
#120:


See this is why people should be kinder about Fang's win in hindsight. Breaking the hegemony of main character wins with a fan favourite party member instead!
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KommunistKoala
09/26/22 12:30:05 PM
#121:


fan favorite (because lightning was lawyered)

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 12:32:40 PM
#122:


Hades posted...
See this is why people should be kinder about Fang's win in hindsight. Breaking the hegemony of main character wins with a fan favourite party member instead!

how do we know Fang secretly isnt the main character of XIII?

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MartinFF7
09/26/22 12:34:28 PM
#123:


Still think it should've been Vanille, damn...
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Hades
09/26/22 12:34:30 PM
#124:


Ramza might have the Cinderella win, but Fang was truly a 'stars align' moment.
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Inviso
09/26/22 12:35:10 PM
#125:


LiquidOshawott posted...
how do we know Fang secretly isnt the main character of XIII?

Honestly, Fang IS the main character of XIII. Lightning gets drawn into the story, but it doesn't really revolve around her.

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 12:36:08 PM
#126:


Hades posted...
Ramza might have the Cinderella win, but Fang was truly a 'stars align' moment.

I can agree with this

that lawyering followed by pretty much every person who likes XIII having her at worst third or so makes her a good bastion of support

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andylt
09/26/22 12:49:27 PM
#127:


If there's an argument for someone other than Lightning to be the main character of XIII, I'd easily pick Vanille over the rest.

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Lopen
09/26/22 12:53:57 PM
#128:


Fang isn't really a fan favorite around here. She was just a beneficiary of the format. I bet Lightning Sazh and Vanille would all do better in a final situation.

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 12:59:38 PM
#129:


Lopen posted...
Fang isn't really a fan favorite around here. She was just a beneficiary of the format. I bet Lightning Sazh and Vanille would all do better in a final situation.

Lightning was lawyered, Vanille is somewhat polarizing I feel. Sazh you are probably right on but a lot of people who have him as the top XIII dont like XIII so they probably go after something else instead

speaking about late game not top ten

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redrocket
09/26/22 1:02:54 PM
#130:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Think Squall was just a monster that year.

A winless Squall would naturally be a force in the final.

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andylt
09/26/22 1:11:45 PM
#131:


With all this talk about main character victories, who still hasn't won?

Warrior of Light, Firion, whoever 3's lead is, Bartz, Terra, Vaan, Noctis, the online games, and then for spinoffs we have Yuna, Serah, Ceodore, Layle, Mira, Jack... anyone else? I feel like Yuna and maybe Terra are the only ones that could have a path to victory. And maybe it's too late for Terra.

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WarThaNemesis2
09/26/22 1:15:31 PM
#132:


Tyro

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mnk
09/26/22 1:17:32 PM
#133:


Chocobo will have his day.

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MartinFF7
09/26/22 1:21:02 PM
#134:


LiquidOshawott posted...
Vanille is somewhat polarizing I feel.

She hit the top 5 in the contest preceding that one, though...

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Lopen
09/26/22 1:27:09 PM
#135:


Every character in FFXIII is kinda polarizing aside from Sazh (who doesn't get as much passion from the people who actually like FFXIII, as you said) and that includes Fang who is basically just diet Lightning with tattoos that doesn't do ads modeling high end purses.

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pjbasis
09/26/22 2:00:24 PM
#136:


andylt posted...
and then for spinoffs we have Yuna, Serah, Ceodore, Layle, Mira, Jack... anyone else?

Forgetting a HUGE one. Both his predecessors are now champions, a new FFT main character will rise

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SirAuron
09/26/22 2:07:17 PM
#137:


Inviso posted...
Honestly, Fang IS the main character of XIII. Lightning gets drawn into the story, but it doesn't really revolve around her.


Thats a weird way to spell Vanille who the entire story literally revolves around.
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SirAuron
09/26/22 2:10:40 PM
#138:


andylt posted...
With all this talk about main character victories, who still hasn't won?

Warrior of Light, Firion, whoever 3's lead is, Bartz, Terra, Vaan, Noctis, the online games, and then for spinoffs we have Yuna, Serah, Ceodore, Layle, Mira, Jack... anyone else? I feel like Yuna and maybe Terra are the only ones that could have a path to victory. And maybe it's too late for Terra.


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pjbasis
09/26/22 2:13:56 PM
#139:


He's never gonna win but we can get him a top 10!

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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 2:15:08 PM
#140:


Ignis got top 15 last year

Just gotta hope people want to cook again

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andylt
09/26/22 2:30:58 PM
#141:


pjbasis posted...
Forgetting a HUGE one. Both his predecessors are now champions, a new FFT main character will rise
I don't have the slightest clue who the TA2 protagonist is!

In terms of XV I'm all for a Prompto run myself, Noct/Ig have both had top 20s at this point and Gladio sucks.

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KommunistKoala
09/26/22 2:33:12 PM
#142:


how dare you insult Luso Clemens

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FFDragon
09/26/22 2:33:48 PM
#143:


those boots tho

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Grimlyn
09/26/22 2:37:59 PM
#144:


andylt posted...
In terms of XV I'm all for a Prompto run myself, Noct/Ig have both had top 20s at this point and Gladio sucks.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/2/AAeYFbAADt2i.jpg

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Leonhart4
09/26/22 2:38:11 PM
#145:


What XV needs is an Iris run

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Grimlyn
09/26/22 2:44:07 PM
#146:


what smfffc needs is King Leo

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/4/6/AAeYFbAADt2m.jpg

free housing to all king leo nommers & savers

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MartinFF7
09/26/22 3:36:17 PM
#147:


Ah I've got some fun character stats but don't want them being buried at a bottom of a page so I'll drop the less-exciting stats for now: annual update on the "top game placement stats" table. Less exciting for XXIII but a good opportunity to look back at contests past...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/0/4/AAC56kAADt3g.jpg

More of the usual, but 2 in the top 5 matching Vanille and Lightning from XIX, yay...

Now that being said, VII having 4 hard boots and 2 potential soft boots, surely getting that game's count down to a more more manageable number, yeah...?

At the moment VII and X are tied with 9 committed characters for next year, with VI, IX and XIV following close behind at 7. A great opportunity for nominating in 10 NARSHE MOOGLES for FFVI to regain the plurality crown for the first time since contest XX, though would need a bit more than the moogles to top the newstats plurality record of 18% for VII in contest XXII, or all-time the 22.5% for IV in the very first contest...
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LiquidOshawott
09/26/22 3:39:16 PM
#148:


Leonhart4 posted...
What XV needs is an Iris run

She got her run during XX

96. Iris Amicitia

even funnier there were two newcomers who did worse

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Grimlyn
09/26/22 3:39:53 PM
#149:


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MartinFF7
09/26/22 3:41:59 PM
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