Poll of the Day > Were you raised in a religious household?

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were most of you?

Yes that's why I know that organized religion is BS.

Judgmenl posted...

Yes that's why I know that organized religion is BS.

you're an atheist?

CedarPointcp posted...

you're an atheist?

Atheism is a religion.
I don't think about religion.

Uh... my father is religious and my mother is not, but mom was pretty insistent that we not be indoctrinated growing up. There was a brief period where my father became completely freaked out over the thought of his little kids all burning in hell (I think a friend of his was the origin of that) and so we went to church for a short period of time, but I didn't internalize anything from it.

My mother was religious, my father very much wasn't. Their compromise was they could lead me, but not force me either way. I was supposed to... do something with my mom's church. Where I had to go to Sunday School for it. I can't even remember. After like 3 or 4 weeks, I didn't go. My mom asked me about it,

"Aren't you supposed to be at Sunday School?"
"I stopped going"
"Why?"
"Because there's literally no "schooling", there are no adults. Only like 5 or 6 kids who sit there for an hour, play pool, listen to music, and be jerks to each other."
"Oh..."

And she didn't make me go back.

No, which is strange because my mom is VERY religious. For my childhood she wasnt involved in the church though so Im not really religious at all meanwhile my sibling was a deacon at a LDS church.

Yes, I took some good lessons from religion (like the good Samaritan story) but overall I think it's some bs

I went to Sunday School and it was Biblical. Certainly no pool playing.

no

but I went to veggie tales camp with a friend when I was 7.

I liked the arts and crafts, but I got frustrated there for some reason. I might be creating the memory, but I think I got a bit miffed at one 'instructor' (or priest, whatever the hell they were) suggesting a different timeline for the dinosaurs, which I was pretty well-informed on at the time.

ReturnOfFa posted...

no

but I went to veggie tales camp with a friend when I was 7.

I liked the arts and crafts, but I got frustrated there for some reason. I might be creating the memory, but I think I got a bit miffed at one 'instructor' (or priest, whatever the hell they were) suggesting a different timeline for the dinosaurs, which I was pretty well-informed on at the time.

really? what was his timeline or explanation for the dinosaurs?

Kinda. I'm not very religious but there's certain things I won't tolerate.

Judgmenl posted...

Atheism is a religion.
I don't think about religion.

Atheism/Theism is only about the believe in god(s). Religion is related but ultimately separate.

MagicalPrincess posted...

I went to Sunday School and it was Biblical.

Like, floods and sodomy and shit?

CedarPointcp posted...

really? what was his timeline or explanation for the dinosaurs?

I vaguely remember some young earth creationist stuff about dinosaurs and humans living alongside 5,000 years ago

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Atheism/Theism is only about the believe in god(s). Religion is related but ultimately separate.

It depends on your definition of religion.
Religion is not always about the worship of gods. It can be about the worship of people or ideas.
I don't waste my time with those kinds of pursuits.

Judgmenl posted...

Atheism is a religion.

The belief that god doesn't exist is a religion... Brilliant.

ZangsBeard posted...

The belief that god doesn't exist is a religion... Brilliant.

God or gods in general. Not just explicitly any specific god like say the Abrahamic one.

ZangsBeard posted...

The belief that god doesn't exist is a religion... Brilliant.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

God or gods in general. Not just explicitly any specific god like say the Abrahamic one.

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Judgmenl posted...

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Yeah, still not atheism. Good lort.

Arguing atheism is a religion is a disingenuous argument intended to nullify their lives and belief structure simply because you dont ascribe to it. Its actually really fucking pathetic.

Anime is a religion.

No, both my parents were atheists, although my mum was raised in a catholic household.

I come from a fairly religious household - went to church every so often, but not as much now.

Yes, my family is some flavor of Christian or other with roughly half being Catholic. So we did church and I'll still attend family functions like baptisms, weddings and communions n stuff. Most of them aren't hard asses about my switch to paganism years ago, so I feel very fortunate in that. I do have a couple of born again relatives who went from moderately reasonable people to assholes with no brain.

I raised my daughter with no religion so she could choose her own path. She's an atheist.

My parents were super devout Catholics when I was growing up. We went to church every Sunday, they were really involved in the church community (Mom was a Sunday school teacher, dad was in the Knights of Columbus and a Eucharistic Minister), did my Confirmation, the whole 9 yards. Then when the sexual abuses scandals broke, they started to distance themselves from the church and just stopped going altogether eventually. They both still believe in God , pray, etc, but their faith in the actual Catholic church got really broken and they decided they didn't really want any part of it anymore. Felt like they had been lied to their whole lives, basically.

My mother was/is nondenominational Protestant Christian religious, to the point where we used to call her the Holy Roller (and she's the kind of person who is bothered by people "taking the Lord's name in vain" while swearing). Meanwhile my father was an active Atheist, who once said that if there really was a God, then he's clearly a sadistic bastard who gets off watching us all suffer like rats in a maze, so he wouldn't be worth worshiping or respecting even if he was real.

It's probably why I wound up Agnostic.



Judgmenl posted...

Yes that's why I know that organized religion is BS.

Maybe you just had shitty parents.

I've known plenty of cool and chill religious people. I've also known plenty of complete asshole atheists. The metaphysical model of the universe you choose to believe in really doesn't change whether or not you're a worthwhile person or a total piece of shit.

There are good people and bad people on both sides of the divide. It's just the shitty people on both sides who tend to argue about it or complain about it the most.

Nah. My mom is religious, my dad isn't. I went to church when I was a kid and to a Christian school for a few years, but by the time I was like 10 I didn't believe any of it.

Judgmenl posted...

Atheism is a religion.

Funny thing is only religionists ever say this, and they say it as if it's a criticism, like religion is a bad thing to them. As a matter of fact atheism isn't a religion in any sense of the word. Even the extremely broad and useless definition you provided wouldn't describe the vast majority of atheists past and present. And for the record most atheists are negative atheists, they're not asserting that there is no god or trying to rationally prove it.

Nah, I am like 3rd generation don't give a shit. I think my great grandfather was a Nontheist Quaker, but when you look up their religious philosophy it is basically "Believe whatever you want".

Oddly enough, I have an uncle who goes to church on Sundays, but I think that is more looking for a group to belong to rather than any religious significance.

It's so funny that half of these replies are bent out of shape because I said their little anti-religion is a religion.

You said something incorrect and people corrected you.

Not really? My mom was very keen on letting me choose and educated accordingly and not really saying there was only one answer, while my dad didnt care about religion, citing his time in Vietnam.

After they got divorced, my dads new wife was mildly religious, but my dad was keen on making sure I wasnt forced to do any religious stuff by her.

Judgmenl posted...

Atheism is a religion.
I don't think about religion.

I've seen this argument from many Christians in trying to refute atheism. This is laughable because they attempt to 'take' the concept of religion being nonsense from the Atheists, and then apply it to Atheism. They don't consider that their adoption of using 'religion' in a derisory manner reflects onto them.

Judgmenl posted...

It's so funny that half of these replies are bent out of shape because I said their little anti-religion is a religion.

Im not atheist... but then again thats the exact kind of nonsense response Id expect from someone who spouts that type of... rhetoric.

Im guessing you think you have critical thinking skills, yet you failed to even remotely exercise said skills.

Not particularly. We went to church regularly, but that's it.

Yes. I was forced to pray a rosary every night and go to church on Sunday (and sometimes randomly throughout the week for bonus Jesus points, or whatever). I always hated every second of it (I've always wondered why some kids buy into religious garbage so enthusiastically while others just naturally revile it).

My parents only let me watch boring religious shows until I got old enough to exert enough independence to make them lighten up (though I still ended up getting exposed to most of nostalgic childhood memories at my friends' houses...I would ride my bike around the neighborhood and make friends with random kids and play their video games and stuff).

The variety of atheism that gathers in groups and spends absurd amounts of time and energy trying to convince others that God (or gods) do not exist sure does look a lot like a religion to me. It's also the type that gets the most media attention, as just being normal and not beleiving in god does not make for particularly interesting reading.

I completely understand the agnostic viewpoint, and I think many people who call themselves atheists are actually agnostic but use the wrong word to describe themselves, in part because it's really not that important to them.

DarkMinun posted...

I completely understand the agnostic viewpoint, and I think many people who call themselves atheists are actually agnostic but use the wrong word to describe themselves, in part because it's really not that important to them.

Those 2 combine to make 4 actual possibilities.

Gnostic Theist (Know there is a god or gods)
Agnostic Theist (Believe there is a god or gods)
Gnostic Atheist (Know there is no god or gods)
Agnostic Atheist (Believe there is no god or gods)

And yes, in either group, those that claim to know, can be most annoying and scary.

Yes and I have a very high tolerance for pain

Where are "don't care if there is a god or gods"

DarkMinun posted...

The variety of atheism that gathers in groups and spends absurd amounts of time and energy trying to convince others that God (or gods) do not exist sure does look a lot like a religion to me. It's also the type that gets the most media attention, as just being normal and not beleiving in god does not make for particularly interesting reading.

I completely understand the agnostic viewpoint, and I think many people who call themselves atheists are actually agnostic but use the wrong word to describe themselves, in part because it's really not that important to them.

Religion is the belief in a god or deities. Atheism is the disbelief that a god or deity exists.

Revelation34 posted...

Religion is the belief in a god or deities.

That is a very Western point of view.

Judgmenl posted... Where are "don't care if there is a god or gods"

That would be in addition to the other two and not as useful. Whether you care or not, you do fit in one of the four groups.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

That is a very Western point of view.

That would be in addition to the other two and not as useful. Whether you care or not, you do fit in one of the four groups.

That's the real "point of view".

Getting taken to Sunday school every year from ages 7-11 and the occasional after Sunday school mass with no discussion of religion outside the above is the extent of how religious we got in my household so I would say no

I was forced to go to Sunday school and midweek classes to get confirmed in addition to going to church. But church stuff mostly stayed at church. We occasionally did grace for special occasions. After getting confirmed my mom stopped making me go except on Christmas and Easter. Now she will guilt trip me occasionally, but she rarely goes either and I guess my dad lost faith either after his dad died or my brother was diagnosed with ushers syndrome.

Nope. My dad isn't religious and neither are my siblings. My nan and my granddads wife were the only religious folk I've known in my family. They are both dead now but my granddads wife was a Jehovah's witnesses so as you can imagine when they visited the conversations between her and my dad were always amusing to me.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

That would be in addition to the other two and not as useful. Whether you care or not, you do fit in one of the four groups.

That's a very anglosphere mindset.