Current Events > Is It True Voice Actor Hellena Taylor Supports Trump?

(+) Yeah! (+)

I'm curious if the rumors concerning this voice actor are true or not.

And Jennifer Hale talked shit about kids with autism.

Doesn't really have any relevance to the issue of Voice Actors being paid shockingly low.

idk but she is a terf

She follows the Trump family, is a TERF, and who knows what other dirt people dug up on her. None of it is relevant to her claims which is a whole different topic. I don't agree with her, but ad hominem attacks are not relevant to whether or not her grievance is legitimate (I personally think we lack enough evidence to say one way or the other if she was wronged).

I heard she pees on puppies too

She's a TERF and a Christian so I wouldn't be surprised.

I dont know and dont care shecis allowed to support anyone she wants, all citizens are allowed, honestly I never heard of her before this topic, how does anyone know the name of voice actors its not like they are major celebrities

Maze_ posted...

And Jennifer Hale talked shit about kids with autism.

Doesn't really have any relevance to the issue of Voice Actors being paid shockingly low.

She did?

Zavala posted...

idk but she is a terf

She is?

thx1138 posted...

I dont know and dont care shecis allowed to support anyone she wants, all citizens are allowed, honestly I never heard of her before this topic, how does anyone know the name of voice actors its not like they are major celebrities

She's been in the news recently due to breaking an NDA to publically criticize Nintendo for allegedly lowballing her on pay offers for voicing Bayonetta.

This controversy was so big Jennifer Hale (who replaced her) had to comment and Hideki Kamiya (Vice President of Platinum Games) had his Twitter account shut down.

That's why people know her name in the gaming sphere.

Also she does legit have a recgonizable voice.

Same way we recongize James Arnold Taylor, John DiMaggio and Nolan North

Humble_Novice posted...

She did?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/2/AAR2BsAADy9u.jpg

She did walk it back a little after pushback:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/3/AAR2BsAADy9v.jpg

Maze_ posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/2/AAR2BsAADy9u.jpg

What was that video, anyone know? It's since been deleted

Anyway I wouldn't be surprised if the actual incidence of autism has gone up in recent years but she sounds like a nutter

I feel like I'm being counter productive bringing it up.

My point was bringing up bad things about Taylor and Hale and Hideki Kamiya's personal opinions/lives distracts from the actual conversation piece. Which is voice actors being low paid.

To me it seems like the people attack Taylor for being a right-wing Christian nutcase are missing the point. None of that is relevant to whether voice actors are paid too little or not. It's just mudslinging that does nothing but help the corporations.

[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

As far as I know (and I'm behind on this) it's he said/she said

Taylor is claiming she was offered $4000 for the whole role.

Annoymous sources said to be from Platinum Games (According to Bloomberg) are saying they offered her roughly that per session for 4 sessions and her pay would be about $15,000.

She turned it down so they hired Hale. Then offered Taylor $4000 for 1 session to record a cameo.

But none of this is "fact"

Everyone is under NDAs

I don't understand the fixation over VA's tbqh. i find it weird that some people think the character belongs to the actors, not the author/creators.

Maze_ posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/8/2/AAR2BsAADy9u.jpg

Oh FFS....

Ricemills posted...

I don't understand the fixation over VA's tbqh. i find it weird that some people think the character belongs to the actors, not the author/creators.

They're notoriously low paid and poorly treated dude. That's why it's coming up.

And on a personal level, in most cases the VA is the part of the character fans see and relate too. Not the guy who drew/thought about it.

Without even leaving Jennifer Hale, I know her and Marc Meer. I have no idea who came up with Commander Shepard . Drew Karpyshyn?

I know the apperance was based on some European model

Maze_ posted...

They're notoriously low paid and poorly treated dude. That's why it's coming up.

they're well paid for a gig job, and on this specific case the VA is lying about her payment.

And on a personal level, in most cases the VA is the part of the character fans see and relate too. Not the guy who drew/thought about it.

and that's why I'm having trouble to understand, the character could still exist with different VA, and the attachment over it is absurd. like Hayter was great as Snake, but changing him with Sutherland is no big deal to me.
also the deal with Goku(?) VA back then, Mike Bologna or something. the fans won't admit he's a piece of shit.

It's not that I don't care about fair pay just because someone is a Trump supporter. But finding out someone is a Trump supporter does mean I'm looking a little harder for corroboration when they say they're the victim of an unfair plot.

Ricemills posted...

they're well paid

They're really really not.

and that's why I'm having trouble to understand, the character could still exist with different VA, and the attachment over it is absurd. like Hayter was great as Snake, but changing him with Sutherland is no big deal to me.

I really missed Hayter as Snake.

Different strokes for different folks. They just get attatched to the character.

I saw a clip from Young Justice (I think) with some goober voicing The Joker and the fact

1. It wasn't Hammil
2. It was shit

Stuck out like a sore thumb because Mark was so good at it.

"I don't care about thing" is fine "I'm looking down at others because they care about thing" is just kinda weird and arrogant dude

I can't imagine anyone else voicing Bender for example. It's so established now.

also the deal with Goku(?) VA back then, Mike Bologna or something. the fans won't admit he's a piece of shit.

That's just fan tribalism, not unique to VAs.

OJ Simpson was allowed to murder 2 people because he was good at football.
People still defend Kevin Spacey and Donald Trump.

Maze_ posted...

They're really really not.

how smart of you for removing the context of the post to twist it for your convenience, bravo.

I really missed Hayter as Snake.

Different strokes for different folks. They just get attatched to the character.

I saw a clip from Young Justice (I think) with some goober voicing The Joker and the fact

1. It wasn't Hammil
2. It was shit
Stuck out like a sore thumb because Mark was so good at it.

"I don't care about thing" is fine "I'm looking down at others because they care about thing" is just kinda weird and arrogant dude

I can't imagine anyone else voicing Bender for example. It's so established now.

and as i repeat again, it was absurd to me to cling on a VA as if they owned the character, not the creator itself.

That's just fan tribalism, not unique to VAs.

OJ Simpson was allowed to murder 2 people because he was good at football.
People still defend Kevin Spacey and Donald Trump.

speaking of fan tribalism, isn't clinging on a certain VA for a character is also one?

ssjevot posted...

She follows the Trump family, is a TERF, and who knows what other dirt people dug up on her. None of it is relevant to her claims which is a whole different topic. I don't agree with her, but ad hominem attacks are not relevant to whether or not her grievance is legitimate (I personally think we lack enough evidence to say one way or the other if she was wronged).

Idk... being a righty trump loon kinda forfeits your sympathy rights tbh

Ricemills posted...

speaking of fan tribalism, isn't clinging on a certain VA for a character is also one?

Not really?

That's like saying staring Bryan Cranston in all 5 series of Breaking Bad was tribalism.

No, it's just basic common sense and the role/show would be massively diminished if someone else took over.

Ricemills posted...

how smart of you for removing the context of the post to twist it for your convenience, bravo.

There's no other context.

VA's are paid terribly and treated terribly, there is no job security, low pay and major companies actively avoid hiring actors within a union.

Going "Well it pays better than if I take my gutair to the local pub" is just.... well it's beyond irrelevant and such a weird sideline to try to defend corrupt captialism at it's worst.

and as i repeat again, it was absurd to me to cling on a VA as if they owned the character, not the creator itself.

What does "As if they owned the character" even mean?

No one including Taylor is claiming she legally owns the character. And for the record Mari Shimazaki who did create the character doesn't own the character either...

Just feels like word salad here

Maze_ posted...

Not really?

That's like saying staring Bryan Cranston in all 5 series of Breaking Bad was tribalism.

no.
saying that Andrew Garfield's and Tom Holland's are not real Peter Parker because he "belongs" to Tobey Maguire is tribalism. and so does with Voice Acting and characters

There's no other context.

now you're straight up lying,
i said: they're well paid for A GIG JOB.

No one including Taylor is claiming she legally owns the character. And for the record Mari Shimazaki who did create the character doesn't own the character either...

Just feels like word salad here

then why the fuck she feels privileged and attack other VA for voicing Bayonetta? almost like she thinks that the only one that voiced Bayi should be her.

Ricemills posted...

no.
saying that Andrew Garfield's and Tom Holland's are not real Peter Parker because he "belongs" to Tobey Maguire is tribalism. and so does with Voice Acting and characters

Those were different interpretations in different canons (well until just now)

It would have been weird to continue the MCU spiderman in Far From Home for example with Idris Elba protraying the same Peter Parker that Tom Holland was playing in the previous movies alongside the same cast.

If they rebooted Bayonetta entirely with a new plot ,new design, new personality, new setting and a new actress. I think even the hardcore Bayonetta fans wouldn't be complaining. (Well about the VA Change anyway)

I don't think this is hard to understand

now you're straight up lying,
i said: they're well paid for A GIG JOB.

Lol you complained at me for removing context when it didn't change anything.
Then removed my post when it did.

VA is low paid "For a Gig Job" because VAs should be paid signifcantly more for their work. Saying Other gigs in other fields may pay less is totally irrelevant.

Just like non gig jobs.

then why the fuck she feels privileged and attack other VA for voicing Bayonetta? almost like she thinks that the only one that voiced Bayi should be her.

Because she's a weirdo.

But we're talking about her pay

You seem all over the place here

Maze_ posted...

Those were different interpretations in different canons (well until just now)

It would have been weird to continue the MCU spiderman in Far From Home for example with Idris Elba protraying the same Peter Parker that Tom Holland was playing in the previous movies alongside the same cast.

If they rebooted Bayonetta entirely with a new plot ,new design, new personality, new setting and a new actress. I think even the hardcore Bayonetta fans wouldn't be complaining. (Well about the VA Change anyway)

I don't think this is hard to understand

now you're being dishonest by using Idris Elba LMAO.
actually, let him portray a Peter Parker and I'll decide to love it or not.
also recasting already happen with Rhodey, and no one gave a shit like it should be

Lol you complained at me for removing context when it didn't change anything.
Then removed my post when it did.

you literally cut in the middle of a sentence and remove the rest of it. the rest of your post didn't change anything of the quoted sentence.
you're just straw grasping now

VA is low paid "For a Gig Job" because VAs should be paid signifcantly more for their work. Saying Other gigs in other fields may pay less is totally irrelevant.
Just like non gig jobs.

a 16 hours job that give you 4 digits, or in this case actually 5 digits is low paid? wow what a dishonest person.

Because she's a weirdo.

But we're talking about her pay

You seem all over the place here

no, wtf. you're the one who brought the pay. read my first post again and what's the issue is.
or is it that you can't deny that some "weirdo" did think that the character belongs to them?

Ricemills posted...

a 16 hours job that give you 4 digits, or in this case actually 5 digits is low paid? wow what a dishonest person.

yeah i did about a quadruple take on that one. imagine complaining about being paid $4k for less than a week of work. That's more than a fucking month of work for me to earn that.

the fucking nerve.

xGhostchantx posted...

That's more than a fucking month of work for me to earn that.

I hate this attitude of "I'm not paid enough so therefore low paying everyone else is fine"

So just running a hypothetical here

Say 6 people equally work on a project

The project takes 36 hours to complete and generates $536,000 of profit

5 of them get $100,000
1 gets $36,000

Would you say that's fair and they have no right to complain because its more than you earn?

You're being treated like a dog being fed scraps under the table and are more angry at the other dog who got more scraps than the guys eating a feast above you in the first place

That's crazy

Also VAs in video games aren't seen as union jobs either. Crunchy Roll has been skirting by on this loophole as well in the anime dubbing scene

Why would it matter?

Maze_ posted...

I hate this attitude of "I'm not paid enough so therefore low paying everyone else is fine"

So just running a hypothetical here

Say 6 people equally work on a project

The project takes 36 hours to complete and generates $536,000 of profit

5 of them get $100,000
1 gets $36,000

Would you say that's fair and they have no right to complain because its more than you earn?

You're being treated like a dog being fed scraps under the table and are more angry at the other dog who got more scraps than the guys eating a feast above you in the first place

That's crazy

lol, ok corporate bootlicker.

xGhostchantx posted...

lol, ok corporate bootlicker.

wut

How in the hell did you get Corporate bootlicker from that?

xGhostchantx posted...

lol, ok corporate bootlicker.

Tell the world you're jealous of other's success and use it as an excuse to turn off all cognition without telling the world...

Its funny seeing people going from simping for her hardcore, to shes such an awful person! in the span of like five days.

Yall gotta stop reacting at news before getting both stories