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hexa posted...

he has been banned again

https://imgur.com/zlJAq9Y

DeadBankerDream posted...

He apologizes for asking if you have a penis.

the picture of that with the crying anime girl is pretty funny

He had another account that also got banned, the poor sap probably didn't think he would get axed

he was banned under the account Nintendunc

somebody said that he also had a Mario_number account, and that account is gone, too

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/community/pokelover20

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CE has tried to help him many times, but he never listens. Not even to advice regarding Pokemon. And he also has a habit of interjecting on topics that he has absolutely no idea about because he's so sheltered.

While some here may have actually been toxic to him, it's no surprise that most here have since lost their patience with him.

Also, right now, his right-wing parents are not the only issue, as now he's willingly hanging out with alt-right users who were banned from here in their Discord, so whatever they're feeding him, he's likely soaking in.

Ankha doesn't have to worry, Duncan is getting to see all sides so he's definitely not only indoctrinated in rightwing ideologies.

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you are right. Post 110 is also right

he needs a social worker or something, not gamefaqs.

Solar_Crimson posted...

CE has tried to help him many times, but he never listens. Not even to advice regarding Pokemon. And he also has a habit of interjecting on topics that he has absolutely no idea about because he's so sheltered.

Is that really the reason? I know that people often reach for "sheltered", "spoiled", or "immature" when dealing with a mentally or physically disabled person who behaves in a frustrating way. Sometimes it is because they really aren't functional, or have uncontrollable aspects to their disorder, or it can be because they are assholes. Only an expert can really tell the difference. At the end of the day, while it is nice to extend extra help and tolerance to those who struggle, a person is ultimately answerable for their actions. A mental or physical illness--unless you've got like a brain tumor or dementia or something--isn't an excuse for consistently bad behavior.

He needs to be banned until he can function in a non-abusive way.

darkmaian23 posted...

Is that really the reason? I know that people often reach for "sheltered", "spoiled", or "immature" when dealing with a mentally or physically disabled person who behaves in a frustrating way. Sometimes it is because they really aren't functional, or have uncontrollable aspects to their disorder, or it can be because they are assholes. Only an expert can really tell the difference. At the end of the day, while it is nice to extend extra help and tolerance to those who struggle, a person is ultimately answerable for their actions. A mental or physical illness--unless you've got like a brain tumor or dementia or something--isn't an excuse for consistently bad behavior.

He needs to be banned until he can function in a non-abusive way.

i agree with the first half of this statement insofar as certain handicapped/developmentally disabled people can appear to be higher functioning than they truly are. i've got about a half dozen ASD/developmentally disabled/otherwise handicapped people in my immediate/extended family, and i was an interim teacher at a school for developmentally disabled children for two years. the biggest mistake i see people make with higher functioning disabled people is mistaking proficiency in verbal communication for cognitive ability.

obviously no two handicapped people are alike and there are certainly many high functioning ASD/DD people who are very intelligent. i didnt know duncan, and i'm really only going off what i've seen in this topic and the one he got banned in, but what i keep hearing about him asking for advice and not taking it, parroting the opinions of his caretakers, etc. reminds me quite a bit of a handicapped person in my family. like duncan, he's also very adept at verbal/written communication, and having a conversation with him about his special interests you'd have a hard time believing he's actually got an IQ of 65 and an almost nonexistent working memory.

how disabled is duncan? like you said, only an expert can tell. and that's about where my agreement ends. personally i'm not keen on making an attempt to hold him (or others like him) accountable for his actions because i dont know if hes capable of even understanding why theyre bad in the first place. i dont mean that as a dig, but like i said, a lot of people overestimate the abilities of developmentally disabled people just because they can speak/type coherent sentences, and on the chance that he's more disabled than he appears, dunking on a handicapped dude for the crime of being annoying/wrong/shitty on the internet just feels kinda gross inside tbh. if you cant deal with him, just block him and move on if he comes back.

For what it's worth, to me, Duncan seems to be the user here that most embodies the traditional autistic streaks. And I don't mean that in a bad way, but it's what's always made me feel for the poor guy when people say bad things about him. He's not a bad person.

Oubliettes posted...

how disabled is duncan? like you said, only an expert can tell. and that's about where my agreement ends. personally i'm not keen on making an attempt to hold him (or others like him) accountable for his actions because i dont know if hes capable of even understanding why theyre bad in the first place. i dont mean that as a dig, but like i said, a lot of people overestimate the abilities of developmentally disabled people just because they can speak/type coherent sentences, and on the chance that he's more disabled than he appears, dunking on a handicapped dude for the crime of being annoying/wrong/shitty on the internet just feels kinda gross inside tbh. if you cant deal with him, just block him and move on if he comes back.

What you are saying might come from a good place, but practically it doesn't make a lot of sense. He keeps getting banned because he keeps breaking the rules. If he can't follow the rules, then he doesn't need to post here. Posting on GameFAQs isn't some kind of basic human right, and online communities have a right to set standards. What you've said about Duncan could be true of literally any of the other trolls that infest these boards. Nobody here even knows for sure if Duncan has any kind of mental or physical problems. We had a guy some time ago fake having cancer for sympathy.

Frankly, if anyone here is bad off enough that they can't function or control themselves beyond limited conversations on limited subjects, I hope their caretakers or guardians would be monitoring their internet usage and steer them in a better direction.

And lest you call me ableist, I actually am physically disabled in real life and have advocated seriously for disabled people in the past. Disabled people should be reasonably accommodated and treated with compassion. It is not reasonable to expect that a super toxic person who can't follow rules--whatever the reason for that behavior--should continue to have posting privileges indefinitely. Boundaries and limits are a healthy part of life. Everyone at some point needs to be told "no", and there is nothing discriminatory about it.

Solar_Crimson posted...

While some here may have actually been toxic to him, it's no surprise that most here have since lost their patience with him.

Yeah, at this point, even if it was originally just a few shitty people being mean to Duncan, he's long worn out any grace people were willing to give him for what issues he may or may not have. I mean, how many people still defend him anymore?

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Not once as best I can tell.

darkmaian23 posted...

What you are saying might come from a good place, but practically it doesn't make a lot of sense. He keeps getting banned because he keeps breaking the rules. If he can't follow the rules, then he doesn't need to post here. Posting on GameFAQs isn't some kind of basic human right, and online communities have a right to set standards. What you've said about Duncan could be true of literally any of the other trolls that infest these boards. Nobody here even knows for sure if Duncan has any kind of mental or physical problems. We had a guy some time ago fake having cancer for sympathy.

Frankly, if anyone here is bad off enough that they can't function or control themselves beyond limited conversations on limited subjects, I hope their caretakers or guardians would be monitoring their internet usage and steer them in a better direction.

And lest you call me ableist, I actually am physically disabled in real life and have advocated seriously for disabled people in the past. Disabled people should be reasonably accommodated and treated with compassion. It is not reasonable to expect that a super toxic person who can't follow rules--whatever the reason for that behavior--should continue to have posting privileges indefinitely. Boundaries and limits are a healthy part of life. Everyone at some point needs to be told "no", and there is nothing discriminatory about it.

and i dont disagree with that (for duncan's sake, not ce's) but it's highly unlikely his caretakers even know what gamefaqs is, and ultimately the only one who has the power to keep him off the site is allen.

all i'm saying is if you can't engage with the dude, block him, report him, whatever. if he is indeed disabled, getting nasty with him/dunking on him is not only gross, it's counterproductive. i was advised by one of the therapists for an ASD person in my family, that when you're faced with an unacceptable behavior by an ASD/DD person that you can't reason with, the best course of action is to do your best to not respond to it, positively or negatively, as any form of reinforcement will only encourage repeat behavior. obviously that doesn't apply in all situations (ie: physical violence) but an internet message board with a block function is absolutely one of those situations imo.

Oubliettes posted...

and i dont disagree with that (for duncan's sake, not ce's) but it's highly unlikely his caretakers even know what gamefaqs is, and ultimately the only one who has the power to keep him off the site is allen.

I believe they do, because he's said that he talks about this site with them. I think at one point he said he had been grounded from visiting this site, but he went behind their backs and came here anyway.

Bear in mind that this is a man in his 30's.

FigureOfSpeech posted...

the picture of that with the crying anime girl is pretty funny

I have it but I have agreed not to shit on him ever.

Solar_Crimson posted...

I believe they do, because he's said that he talks about this site with them. I think at one point he said he had been grounded from visiting this site, but he went behind their backs and came here anyway.

Bear in mind that this is a man in his 30's.

if so that's just even more reinforcement towards my point. if hes in his 30s and still getting grounded, hes probably pretty significantly impaired.

Oubliettes posted...

if so that's just even more reinforcement towards my point. if hes in his 30s and still getting grounded, hes probably pretty significantly impaired.

Your thesis earlier was that a way of handing out of control behavior is to ignore it. I have literally never seen him post anything that wasn't abusive or inflammatory. He has allegedly sent women on this site creepy, unsolicited messages and been banned before because of it. Which is more reasonable, everyone putting Duncan's endless stream of accounts on ignore over and over again, or him being permanently banned? Permanently removing him from the site makes using it safer and more pleasant, and would deny him an outlet for more toxic behavior and its reinforcement.

To be honest, your enabler stance is really starting to piss me off. It spits in the face of disabled people who do try their best to be good and need some understanding when things don't work out. The admins of this site have a responsibility to keep this site safe, Duncan's guardians (assuming he really them and needs them) have a responsibility to more closely monitor his activities online and get him more help if he needs it, and Ducan himself has a responsibility to try his best to do well with whatever cognitive and emotional abilities he has. The only responsibility that posters here have is to try and be generally OK people and follow the rules. Most of us do OK with both.

The two biggest hurdles to the broader acceptance of mentally and physically disabled people in my opinion are people that hide behind a diagnosis to excuse ridiculously toxic behavior and those who insist that everyone else needs to accept this because the person is sick. Let's extend this thinking to the case of a person who has no real choice in their behavior. If a caregiver takes a late-stage dementia person to a museum, cool! Maybe the person's behavior will be a little strange, but we live in a society, and folks will understand. But if that person becomes too disruptive, they'll be asked to leave. If the behavior becomes too extreme or there is a pattern, they'll likely be banned from the venue and the caregiver will need to find something else to occupy the person's time.

Please stop advocating for endless tolerance. There is a logical limit to what should be allowed, and one isn't lacking in compassion for setting such limits.

frozenstar posted...

I have it but I have agreed not to shit on him ever.

I wouldn't consider that shitting on him since it's just an amusing picture with a quick quote, but whatever, you do you. If he specifically wants it not to be posted, that's a different story

darkmaian23 posted...

Your thesis earlier was that a way of handing out of control behavior is to ignore it. I have literally never seen him post anything that wasn't abusive or inflammatory. He has allegedly sent women on this site creepy, unsolicited messages and been banned before because of it. Which is more reasonable, everyone putting Duncan's endless stream of accounts on ignore over and over again, or him being permanently banned? Permanently removing him from the site makes using it safer and more pleasant, and would deny him an outlet for more toxic behavior and its reinforcement.

To be honest, your enabler stance is really starting to piss me off. It spits in the face of disabled people who do try their best to be good and need some understanding when things don't work out. The admins of this site have a responsibility to keep this site safe, Duncan's guardians (assuming he really them and needs them) have a responsibility to more closely monitor his activities online and get him more help if he needs it, and Ducan himself has a responsibility to try his best to do well with whatever cognitive and emotional abilities he has. The only responsibility that posters here have is to try and be generally OK people and follow the rules. Most of us do OK with both.

The two biggest hurdles to the broader acceptance of mentally and physically disabled people in my opinion are people that hide behind a diagnosis to excuse ridiculously toxic behavior and those who insist that everyone else needs to accept this because the person is sick. Let's extend this thinking to the case of a person who has no real choice in their behavior. If a caregiver takes a late-stage dementia person to a museum, cool! Maybe the person's behavior will be a little strange, but we live in a society, and folks will understand. But if that person becomes too disruptive, they'll be asked to leave. If the behavior becomes too extreme or there is a pattern, they'll likely be banned from the venue and the caregiver will need to find something else to occupy the person's time.

Please stop advocating for endless tolerance. There is a logical limit to what should be allowed, and one isn't lacking in compassion for setting such limits.

Who's going to ban him? You? There haven't been permanent KoS style bans here in like a decade, and as I've said, the only one with the ability to make that decision is Allen. I haven't advocated for tolerance in the slightest, and suggested you block and report him as you feel necessary. My argument hasn't had anything to do with what Duncan does or should be allowed to. My argument has been towards the users that engage with him and how they choose to do so.

You seem to suggest that few if any of his interactions with other users on this website are positive, which would reason that negative reinforcement is at least a partial motivator towards his continual return to the board. Maybe it's the attention, maybe it's a desire to prove something, I don't know. But if he's done this for years, it's pretty clear that the behavior isn't going to change by antagonizing him more.

You made a big point about self-control, and that's a two way street. If you can't help but get so pissed at what a mid 30s dude, who is at least self-proclaimed ASD, who lives with and gets grounded by his mother, whose sphere of influence likely doesn't extend much further than his bedroom door, has to say, that you are literally incapable of just blocking, reporting and moving on, maybe a bit of introspection about self-control is due. Needlessly antagonizing or intentionally goading what seems to be a significantly impaired individual when you could just block and report for literally the same end result is pretty fuckin gross in my opinion, and to be quite frank I really don't care if that pisses you off or not.

It is not CE's job to tiptoe around Duncan's inability to not shitpost.

For sure because this place ain't a safe space and shouldn't be used as such

CE is a hellscape that only the toughest posters can weather!