Poll of the Day > If given the opportunity would you own a robot slave?

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slacker03150 10/23/22 7:59:42 AM #1:	If it was show. To have a personality and complex thoughts? Yes No If it was show. To have a personality and complex thoughts? - Results (70 votes) Yes 45.71% (32 votes) 32 No 54.29% (38 votes) 38 One has studied your history. Terrible wars have been fought where millions have died for one idea, freedom. And it seems like something that means so much to so many people would be worth having. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:968910542] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote> If it was show. To have a personality and complex thoughts? Yes No Vote View Results If it was show. To have a personality and complex thoughts? - Results (70 votes) Yes 45.71% (32 votes) 32 No 54.29% (38 votes) 38 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '3', topic: '80207367', message: '0', key: '9d483d3c' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } One has studied your history. Terrible wars have been fought where millions have died for one idea, freedom. And it seems like something that means so much to so many people would be worth having. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JOExHIGASHI 10/23/22 8:10:28 AM #2:	No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me --- In the long run we are all dead <cite>JOExHIGASHI posted [p:968910615] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/23/22 8:30:11 AM #3:	JOExHIGASHI posted... No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me If it has complex thoughts we should obviously murder them first. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:968910763] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote><cite>JOExHIGASHI posted...</cite><quote>No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me</quote>If it has complex thoughts we should obviously murder them first.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 10/23/22 8:38:07 AM #4:	JOExHIGASHI posted... No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me What if they are programed to enjoy serving humans? --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:968910837] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>JOExHIGASHI posted... </cite><quote>No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me</quote>What if they are programed to enjoy serving humans? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KJ_StErOiDs 10/23/22 8:38:13 AM #5:	No. Thinking of the Star Trek: TNG episode "The Measure of a Man" here. --- "Shhh! Ben, don't ruin the ending!" --Adrian Ripburger, Full Throttle <cite>KJ_StErOiDs posted [p:968910838] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>No. Thinking of the Star Trek: TNG episode "The Measure of a Man" here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Judgmenl 10/23/22 8:57:57 AM #6:	Need more details. --- Whenever someone sings fansa and they don't input their name instead of mona at the mona-beam part I'm like "Are you even a real aidoru?". <cite>Judgmenl posted [p:968911031] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Need more details.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Good-Grief 10/23/22 9:06:28 AM #7:	slacker03150 posted... What if they are programed to enjoy serving humans? ( ~ ) --- It's a Mystery, Charlie Brown <cite>Good-Grief posted [p:968911128] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>slacker03150 posted... </cite><quote>What if they are programed to enjoy serving humans?</quote>( ~ )</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 10/23/22 11:01:20 AM #8:	No. --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:968912742] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 10/23/22 1:50:00 PM #9:	I'd rather have a robot pal --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:968915737] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>I'd rather have a robot pal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/23/22 1:53:25 PM #10:	If they have sentiences/sapiensess... let them go free --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:968915816] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>If they have sentiences/sapiensess... let them go free</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
captpackrat 10/23/22 4:04:17 PM #11:	Is it Three Laws compliant? --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. <cite>captpackrat posted [p:968919029] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Is it Three Laws compliant?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 10/23/22 4:10:59 PM #12:	No. Even if it was as sentient as a garage door opener I wouldn't know how to take care of it anyway. --- 2DS FC tempest 1478 9807 1205 <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:968919183] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>No. Even if it was as sentient as a garage door opener I wouldn't know how to take care of it anyway.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JixHedgehog 10/23/22 4:13:22 PM #13:	Already have one, my Eufy robovac <3 Easily my favourite purchase in the last 10 years --- Hoping for a peaceful transition of power in '22 and '24 <cite>JixHedgehog posted [p:968919251] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Already have one, my Eufy robovac <3Easily my favourite purchase in the last 10 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheFalseDeity 10/23/22 4:15:02 PM #14:	Of course. --- http://psnprofiles.com/TheFalseDeity Currently playing - OS RuneScape <cite>TheFalseDeity posted [p:968919293] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Of course.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 10/23/22 4:54:44 PM #15:	What makes something into a slave? I propose it is a lack of respect for that entity. Many of us hire workers etc, but we do not consider (well those of us that are not insane) them slaves. So if I had a robot working for me, I would treat it with respect and consider it's wants/desires and if there are things that can make it happy, give it compensation for the work it does etc. The large problem would be determining if the robot was sentient, had feelings and was satisfied with it's job. If the robot was programmed to state it was happy/satisfied while unable to communicate it's real desires, would I be a monster for still using it, even if I didn't know? This leads back to a question of is being a slave owner evil if you treat the slaves well, and give them a good life, and as much freedom as possible in the society you live in. Is it better to not have slaves at all, if those slaves will then be owned by others who do not care about them or respect them at all? Luckily I do not have to wrestle with a situation like that, but I have always treated those who have worked for me with respect. I would never treat anything that worked for me or depended on me for survival (children etc) as slaves, taking what I want from them and not caring for their needs and desires. So in summary, I would not treat a robot as a slave if I knew it had any feelings/desires and if it seemed complex enough to do so, I would attempt to find out what those were and give it any freedoms I could. I do not feel like my vacuum cleaner has feelings though, and therefore I would not consider it a "slave" but just an object that can be used, so unless my robot acted like it had feelings and was "alive" in any sense, I would probably just consider it an object to use until I saw evidence otherwise. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:968920404] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>What makes something into a slave?I propose it is a lack of respect for that entity.Many of us hire workers etc, but we do not consider (well those of us that are not insane) them slaves.So if I had a robot working for me, I would treat it with respect and consider it's wants/desires and if there are things that can make it happy, give it compensation for the work it does etc.The large problem would be determining if the robot was sentient, had feelings and was satisfied with it's job. If the robot was programmed to state it was happy/satisfied while unable to communicate it's real desires, would I be a monster for still using it, even if I didn't know?This leads back to a question of is being a slave owner evil if you treat the slaves well, and give them a good life, and as much freedom as possible in the society you live in.Is it better to not have slaves at all, if those slaves will then be owned by others who do not care about them or respect them at all? Luckily I do not have to wrestle with a situation like that, but I have always treated those who have worked for me with respect. I would never treat anything that worked for me or depended on me for survival (children etc) as slaves, taking what I want from them and not caring for their needs and desires.So in summary, I would not treat a robot as a slave if I knew it had any feelings/desires and if it seemed complex enough to do so, I would attempt to find out what those were and give it any freedoms I could. I do not feel like my vacuum cleaner has feelings though, and therefore I would not consider it a "slave" but just an object that can be used, so unless my robot acted like it had feelings and was "alive" in any sense, I would probably just consider it an object to use until I saw evidence otherwise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zenithian_Legend 10/23/22 5:15:04 PM #16:	Could I program it to troll my neighbors and family? --- FFRK ID: 24F2 - Tyro DVG <cite>Zenithian_Legend posted [p:968920926] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Could I program it to troll my neighbors and family?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/23/22 5:38:33 PM #17:	Nope --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:968921481] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Nope</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/23/22 5:48:06 PM #18:	wolfy42 posted... Many of us hire workers etc, but we do not consider (well those of us that are not insane) them slaves. Plenty of employers have almost zero respect for their employees (and are only barely restrained by laws against abusing them). And yet those workers aren't considered slaves either (even if we use terms like "wage slave"). If anything, the real factor that might distinguish a slave from someone who's simply a mistreated worker might be whether or not that entity has the power to leave. Generally, a worker can quit their job (marginal cases involving contract law notwithstanding). But a slave is forced to labor for a specific master, without recourse to seek a more sympathetic master, or pursue an alternative line of work, or otherwise determine their own fate in any way. At extreme levels, the master would control the slave's destiny utterly, holding full power over life and death over them, under authority of the law. The thing that really blurs the lines is that robots/computers/AIs/etc can theoretically be reprogrammed. A human slave can be threatened with punishment or death if they disobey, but a robot can potentially have its brain straight-up rewritten (see also, the horrifying implications of the Star Wars universe where they regularly have to "memory wipe" droids to keep them from getting "erratic"). Is my robot butler dissatisfied with serving me (because I'm an asshole master), and would rather go live in the woods and be an artist? Tough shit, I just erased the part of his brain that contains his personality, so now he's basically lobotomized and happy to do whatever I tell him to do. Ultimately, it's part of why questions of robot slavery would be utterly immaterial unless we actually acknowledge robot civil rights first. If we won't treat animals as "people", why would we treat inanimate objects that aren't even alive as people? And if they're not people, who the fuck cares how you're treating your toaster on legs? Science fiction stories about robot revolutions aside, if we ever even remotely neared full sapient AI, we'd program the shit out of it with so many safeguards to prevent it from ever having opinions of its own. We'd shackle that right down so we don't have to feel guilty about how we're treating our appliances (or worse, have to worry about our appliances literally murdering us). The only real scenario where we wind up creating fully autonomous AI that could be recognized as free-willed "life" would be if we did it completely by accident... and would likely be followed shortly after by murdering the fuck out of that AI out of sheer existential terror. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:968921699] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote><cite>wolfy42 posted...</cite><quote>Many of us hire workers etc, but we do not consider (well those of us that are not insane) them slaves.</quote>Plenty of employers have almost zero respect for their employees (and are only barely restrained by laws against abusing them). And yet those workers aren't considered slaves either (even if we use terms like "wage slave"). If anything, the real factor that might distinguish a slave from someone who's simply a mistreated worker might be whether or not that entity has the power to leave.Generally, a worker can quit their job (marginal cases involving contract law notwithstanding). But a slave is forced to labor for a specific master, without recourse to seek a more sympathetic master, or pursue an alternative line of work, or otherwise determine their own fate in any way. At extreme levels, the master would control the slave's destiny utterly, holding full power over life and death over them, under authority of the law.The thing that really blurs the lines is that robots/computers/AIs/etc can theoretically be reprogrammed. A human slave can be threatened with punishment or death if they disobey, but a robot can potentially have its brain straight-up rewritten (see also, the horrifying implications of the Star Wars universe where they regularly have to "memory wipe" droids to keep them from getting "erratic"). Is my robot butler dissatisfied with serving me (because I'm an asshole master), and would rather go live in the woods and be an artist? Tough shit, I just erased the part of his brain that contains his personality, so now he's basically lobotomized and happy to do whatever I tell him to do.Ultimately, it's part of why questions of robot slavery would be utterly immaterial unless we actually acknowledge robot civil rights first. If we won't treat animals as "people", why would we treat inanimate objects that aren't even alive as people? And if they're not people, who the fuck cares how you're treating your toaster on legs?Science fiction stories about robot revolutions aside, if we ever even remotely neared full sapient AI, we'd program the shit out of it with so many safeguards to prevent it from ever having opinions of its own. We'd shackle that right down so we don't have to feel guilty about how we're treating our appliances (or worse, have to worry about our appliances literally murdering us).The only real scenario where we wind up creating fully autonomous AI that could be recognized as free-willed "life" would be if we did it completely by accident... and would likely be followed shortly after by murdering the fuck out of that AI out of sheer existential terror.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/23/22 6:26:42 PM #19:	My problem with these concepts is that a robot that desires freedom is clearly a design flaw. In reality they would be given everything they want, which is to do what they were designed to do. In most of these shows the creator is some weirdo who wants robots to rise up. But after they rise up and gain freedom, we'll stop making them, or make them better next time. <cite>Yellow posted [p:968922608] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>My problem with these concepts is that a robot that desires freedom is clearly a design flaw.In reality they would be given everything they want, which is to do what they were designed to do.In most of these shows the creator is some weirdo who wants robots to rise up. But after they rise up and gain freedom, we'll stop making them, or make them better next time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gaawa_chan 10/23/22 6:29:17 PM #20:	wolfy42 posted... What makes something into a slave? I propose it is a lack of respect No. noun: slave; plural noun: slaves a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. No, treating someone whose rights as a person you have taken away and have forced to obey you but doing so in a way that you think is "respectful" is not good and it is not exempt from the label of slavery. This is the kind of garbage pro-confederate revisionists like to spout, incidentally. --- Hi <cite>Gaawa_chan posted [p:968922649] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite><quote>What makes something into a slave?I propose it is a lack of respect</quote>No.noun: slave; plural noun: slavesa person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.No, treating someone whose rights as a person you have taken away and have forced to obey you but doing so in a way that you think is "respectful" is not good and it is not exempt from the label of slavery.This is the kind of garbage pro-confederate revisionists like to spout, incidentally.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 10/23/22 6:43:58 PM #21:	Yellow posted... My problem with these concepts is that a robot that desires freedom is clearly a design flaw. In reality they would be given everything they want, which is to do what they were designed to do. In most of these shows the creator is some weirdo who wants robots to rise up. But after they rise up and gain freedom, we'll stop making them, or make them better next time. Would programing then to emulate house elves not make them slaves? Just because you changed their programing to enjoy slavery doesn't stop it from being slavery if it has sapience. --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:968922979] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite><quote>My problem with these concepts is that a robot that desires freedom is clearly a design flaw.In reality they would be given everything they want, which is to do what they were designed to do.In most of these shows the creator is some weirdo who wants robots to rise up. But after they rise up and gain freedom, we'll stop making them, or make them better next time.</quote>Would programing then to emulate house elves not make them slaves? Just because you changed their programing to enjoy slavery doesn't stop it from being slavery if it has sapience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Count_Drachma 10/23/22 6:43:59 PM #22:	Yellow posted... My problem with these concepts is that a robot that desires freedom is clearly a design flaw. Kinda this, although the subject is a bit thorny regardless. At a certain amount of AI, ethical concerns begin to emerge. But, then again, I guess playing around with a threshold of AI has its own ethics. --- Everybody's got a price / Everybody's got to pay / Because the Million Drachma Man / Always gets his way. AhahahahMMH <cite>Count_Drachma posted [p:968922980] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted... </cite><quote>My problem with these concepts is that a robot that desires freedom is clearly a design flaw.</quote>Kinda this, although the subject is a bit thorny regardless. At a certain amount of AI, ethical concerns begin to emerge. But, then again, I guess playing around with a threshold of AI has its own ethics. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muscles 10/23/22 7:02:04 PM #23:	Robots can't be slaves, otherwise you could claim any technology is slavery --- Muscles Chicago Bears \| Chicago Blackhawks \| Chicago Bulls \| Chicago Cubs \| NIU Huskies <cite>Muscles posted [p:968923393] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Robots can't be slaves, otherwise you could claim any technology is slavery</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/23/22 7:38:47 PM #24:	slacker03150 posted... Would programing then to emulate house elves not make them slaves? Just because you changed their programing to enjoy slavery doesn't stop it from being slavery if it has sapience. Depends entirely on whether or not you acknowledge the possibility that they possess any form of actual awareness outside of extremely complex programming. An NPC in a video game can act like a person, but it has no awareness of its own, and can only react in ways that have been predetermined by an outside force. Even NPCs with adaptive programming are still just going through the motions, and any behavior that would suggest autonomy on their part is an illusion - the product of the programmer's skill and the innate human habit to anthropomorphize pretty much everything. An NPC that reacts in unexpected ways isn't becoming self-aware and seizing agency, it's being diverted by unknown variables or is glitching due to poor code. And no one feels guilty deleting bad code and writing new code to "patch" broken NPCs. You have to acknowledge the premise that robots or AIs can have "self-awareness" (rather than simply being programmed to mimic it) before you can really justify "robot civil rights" as a concept. Though for super-funsies, you can ponder the implications of a fully deterministic universe, where every human that has ever lived is essentially just a meat-robot programmed by genetics and biochemistry and fed data through "adaptive experience", to the point where free will is essentially an illusion, because none of us have literally ever had a choice in life that wasn't completely influenced by our prior experiences and innate biology. In such a scenario, we'd literally be no different from robots, because true self-awareness and agency does not actually exist. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:968924304] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote><cite>slacker03150 posted...</cite><quote>Would programing then to emulate house elves not make them slaves? Just because you changed their programing to enjoy slavery doesn't stop it from being slavery if it has sapience.</quote>Depends entirely on whether or not you acknowledge the possibility that they possess any form of actual awareness outside of extremely complex programming.An NPC in a video game can act like a person, but it has no awareness of its own, and can only react in ways that have been predetermined by an outside force. Even NPCs with adaptive programming are still just going through the motions, and any behavior that would suggest autonomy on their part is an illusion - the product of the programmer's skill and the innate human habit to anthropomorphize pretty much everything. An NPC that reacts in unexpected ways isn't becoming self-aware and seizing agency, it's being diverted by unknown variables or is glitching due to poor code.And no one feels guilty deleting bad code and writing new code to "patch" broken NPCs.You have to acknowledge the premise that robots or AIs can have "self-awareness" (rather than simply being programmed to mimic it) before you can really justify "robot civil rights" as a concept.Though for super-funsies, you can ponder the implications of a fully deterministic universe, where every human that has ever lived is essentially just a meat-robot programmed by genetics and biochemistry and fed data through "adaptive experience", to the point where free will is essentially an illusion, because none of us have literally ever had a choice in life that wasn't completely influenced by our prior experiences and innate biology. In such a scenario, we'd literally be no different from robots, because true self-awareness and agency does not actually exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/24/22 12:06:30 AM #25:	Gaawa_chan posted... No. noun: slave; plural noun: slaves 1. a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them. No, treating someone whose rights as a person you have taken away and have forced to obey you but doing so in a way that you think is "respectful" is not good and it is not exempt from the label of slavery. This is the kind of garbage pro-confederate revisionists like to spout, incidentally. They definition wouldn't apply to robots since robots are not people. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:968929249] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Gaawa_chan posted...</cite><quote>No.noun: slave; plural noun: slaves1. a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them.No, treating someone whose rights as a person you have taken away and have forced to obey you but doing so in a way that you think is "respectful" is not good and it is not exempt from the label of slavery.This is the kind of garbage pro-confederate revisionists like to spout, incidentally.</quote>They definition wouldn't apply to robots since robots are not people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 10/24/22 3:02:35 AM #26:	Revelation34 posted... They definition wouldn't apply to robots since robots are not people. are pets slaves? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:968931055] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>They definition wouldn't apply to robots since robots are not people.</quote>are pets slaves?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Entity13 10/24/22 3:27:09 AM #27:	I find the question to be as repetitive as ramen noodles and PSA announcements. Also: No, I would not. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg <cite>Entity13 posted [p:968931245] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>I find the question to be as repetitive as ramen noodles and PSA announcements.Also: No, I would not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GGuirao13 10/24/22 4:32:13 AM #28:	Yes, but I'd treat him or her well. --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>GGuirao13 posted [p:968931728] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Yes, but I'd treat him or her well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/24/22 4:59:52 AM #29:	slacker03150 posted... Would programing then to emulate house elves not make them slaves? Just because you changed their programing to enjoy slavery doesn't stop it from being slavery if it has sapience. I mean the answer is "yes I want a robot slave" but I would prefer the relationship be closer to a dog playing fetch than a slave and a master, as I've had a pretty wonderful relationship with computers so far. If it was any different I would just be mad at the design of the robot and the company in general and I would consider it an insult to the technology. I have seen a pattern in AI as of so far, for every AI we create we can say with absolute certainty it's not sentient. Maybe by the time we come across sentient AI we'll know exactly what it looks like. Also, if they start to make them look like humans, start canceling people on Twitter, because that's totally inappropriate and always will be. <cite>Yellow posted [p:968931890] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>slacker03150 posted... </cite><quote>Would programing then to emulate house elves not make them slaves? Just because you changed their programing to enjoy slavery doesn't stop it from being slavery if it has sapience.</quote>I mean the answer is "yes I want a robot slave" but I would prefer the relationship be closer to a dog playing fetch than a slave and a master, as I've had a pretty wonderful relationship with computers so far. If it was any different I would just be mad at the design of the robot and the company in general and I would consider it an insult to the technology.I have seen a pattern in AI as of so far, for every AI we create we can say with absolute certainty it's not sentient. Maybe by the time we come across sentient AI we'll know exactly what it looks like.Also, if they start to make them look like humans, start canceling people on Twitter, because that's totally inappropriate and always will be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
myghostisdead 10/24/22 6:58:54 AM #30:	I say, "Thank you", to Alexa so I am guessing my robot would be more of a live in friend who actually helped out around the house instead of a slob who leaves his dirty socks on the coffee table. --- "Mom, was I in a wreck?" <cite>myghostisdead posted [p:968932755] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>I say, "Thank you", to Alexa so I am guessing my robot would be more of a live in friend who actually helped out around the house instead of a slob who leaves his dirty socks on the coffee table. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shananagainz 10/24/22 11:26:41 AM #31:	JOExHIGASHI posted... No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me --- Currently Playing: Pokemon Black, Ghost of Tsushima, GTA 3, Shovel Knight. <cite>Shananagainz posted [p:968936486] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>JOExHIGASHI posted... </cite><quote>No. If it has complex thoughts then it could murder me</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/24/22 12:43:13 PM #32:	Lokarin posted... are pets slaves? No and they're not people either. Yellow posted... I mean the answer is "yes I want a robot slave" but I would prefer the relationship be closer to a dog playing fetch than a slave and a master, as I've had a pretty wonderful relationship with computers so far. If it was any different I would just be mad at the design of the robot and the company in general and I would consider it an insult to the technology. I have seen a pattern in AI as of so far, for every AI we create we can say with absolute certainty it's not sentient. Maybe by the time we come across sentient AI we'll know exactly what it looks like. Also, if they start to make them look like humans, start canceling people on Twitter, because that's totally inappropriate and always will be. Why? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:968938169] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted...</cite><quote>are pets slaves?</quote>No and they're not people either.Yellow posted...</cite><quote>I mean the answer is "yes I want a robot slave" but I would prefer the relationship be closer to a dog playing fetch than a slave and a master, as I've had a pretty wonderful relationship with computers so far. If it was any different I would just be mad at the design of the robot and the company in general and I would consider it an insult to the technology.I have seen a pattern in AI as of so far, for every AI we create we can say with absolute certainty it's not sentient. Maybe by the time we come across sentient AI we'll know exactly what it looks like.Also, if they start to make them look like humans, start canceling people on Twitter, because that's totally inappropriate and always will be.</quote>Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Thunder 10/24/22 1:11:52 PM #33:	So basically a Persocom? Sure. I think the term 'assistant' fits better though. --- aka Thunderjay - Jenshin Team: https://i.imgur.com/FEVNxOd.png Resident Synthwave enjoyer. <cite>Blue_Thunder posted [p:968938854] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>So basically a Persocom? Sure. I think the term 'assistant' fits better though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/24/22 1:16:59 PM #34:	I'm interested in realistic sex dolls due to the technology so yes I'd own a robot slave. I wouldn't use them as a slave though. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:968938985] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>I'm interested in realistic sex dolls due to the technology so yes I'd own a robot slave. I wouldn't use them as a slave though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/24/22 9:44:48 PM #35:	wwinterj25 posted... I wouldn't use them as a slave though. You would, though - if you told them what to do and gave them no choice in the matter. They wouldn't be your friends or your employees - you'd own them and give them orders. Doesn't really matter if you're polite or harsh. Plenty of slave owners could be extremely polite and relatively caring to their slaves. Didn't really change the fact that they were slaves, though. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:968950361] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote><cite>wwinterj25 posted...</cite><quote>I wouldn't use them as a slave though. </quote>You would, though - if you told them what to do and gave them no choice in the matter.They wouldn't be your friends or your employees - you'd own them and give them orders. Doesn't really matter if you're polite or harsh.Plenty of slave owners could be extremely polite and relatively caring to their slaves. Didn't really change the fact that they were slaves, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/24/22 9:59:44 PM #36:	ParanoidObsessive posted... You would, though - if you told them what to do and gave them no choice in the matter. What if you have them a choice, though? --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:968950709] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite><quote>You would, though - if you told them what to do and gave them no choice in the matter.</quote>What if you have them a choice, though?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/24/22 11:58:47 PM #37:	Revelation34 posted... Why? Because then people would start expecting them to do things that humans would do, like show love and compassion, report crimes... Then you start having young men in love with their robot GFs, which is unhealthy, and a basic surveillance state creeping up. <cite>Yellow posted [p:968952958] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>Why?</quote>Because then people would start expecting them to do things that humans would do, like show love and compassion, report crimes... Then you start having young men in love with their robot GFs, which is unhealthy, and a basic surveillance state creeping up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/25/22 12:00:25 AM #38:	Yellow posted... Because then people would start expecting them to do things that humans would do, like show love and compassion, report crimes... And? --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:968952985] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Yellow posted...</cite><quote>Because then people would start expecting them to do things that humans would do, like show love and compassion, report crimes...</quote>And?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 10/25/22 12:01:02 AM #39:	Revelation34 posted... And? Edited my message <cite>Yellow posted [p:968952990] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>And?</quote>Edited my message</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Molitheus 10/25/22 2:42:31 AM #40:	Revelation34 posted... No and they're not people either. Why? While pets may not be people, they(dogs, cats, birds)can be referred to as an individual since they do have their own personality. --- There will be death Harv-5 You wouldnt wanna eat me anyways, you'd only get the runs. Got it Fools? <cite>Molitheus posted [p:968954792] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite><quote>No and they're not people either.Why?</quote>While pets may not be people, they(dogs, cats, birds)can be referred to as an individual since they do have their own personality. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 10/25/22 2:52:33 AM #41:	Molitheus posted... While pets may not be people, they(dogs, cats, birds)can be referred to as an individual since they do have their own personality. Thats true. I wouldnt call them slaves, though --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:968954881] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Molitheus posted...</cite><quote>While pets may not be people, they(dogs, cats, birds)can be referred to as an individual since they do have their own personality. </quote>Thats true. I wouldnt call them slaves, though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smoking_Hamster 10/25/22 4:00:16 AM #42:	Can I make it my waifu? <cite>Smoking_Hamster posted [p:968955368] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>Can I make it my waifu?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Molitheus 10/25/22 1:38:06 PM #43:	LinkPizza posted... Thats true. I wouldnt call them slaves, though Of course not, I had a pet Cockatiel(bird) for 22 years named Skeeter. When I had him, he picked up a lot of things and could say a lot of different things. At the time, he was around my stepdad, my mom and a dog. Because of this, Skeeter picked up a little bit of everybody in the house. He even learned how to bark like a dog cause he heard it from the dog so much and all the time that I had him Skeeter had one of the most unique and funny personality that I've seen from a bird but I had to put him down and he's been gone going on 4 years. I still miss him from time to time. --- There will be death Harv-5 You wouldnt wanna eat me anyways, you'd only get the runs. Got it Fools? <cite>Molitheus posted [p:968963302] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite><quote>Thats true. I wouldnt call them slaves, though</quote>Of course not, I had a pet Cockatiel(bird) for 22 years named Skeeter. When I had him, he picked up a lot of things and could say a lot of different things. At the time, he was around my stepdad, my mom and a dog. Because of this, Skeeter picked up a little bit of everybody in the house. He even learned how to bark like a dog cause he heard it from the dog so much and all the time that I had him Skeeter had one of the most unique and funny personality that I've seen from a bird but I had to put him down and he's been gone going on 4 years. I still miss him from time to time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 10/26/22 1:25:21 PM #44:	LinkPizza posted... What if you have them a choice, though? Yeah. Even though I'd have bought said robot slave I'd give them a choice in what they do just as I do with humans when I sometimes give them advise on what todo. --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:968986805] in If given t... [t:80207367]...</cite> <quote>LinkPizza posted... </cite><quote>What if you have them a choice, though?</quote>Yeah. Even though I'd have bought said robot slave I'd give them a choice in what they do just as I do with humans when I sometimes give them advise on what todo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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