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lilORANG
10/23/22 9:50:27 PM
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Cuz I just watched ep 4 and a bunch of these skinny Harpy dudes wielding only knives just ambushed some fully equipped Unsullied and this has to be the dumbest fucking plan of all time.


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KhlavicLanguage
10/23/22 9:51:08 PM
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yes, beginning of 5 is when they ran out of book content

everything after season 4 is progressively worse except a couple banger episodes in season 6 that ultimately arent actually worth it
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Ch33z_I_Luv
10/23/22 9:52:02 PM
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I thought 5 was fine, and 6 as well. 7/8 were pretty bad
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LeCh0nk
10/23/22 9:53:12 PM
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This pic sums it up pretty well
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ManaYuka
10/23/22 9:53:38 PM
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They didnt run out of book content. They decided they knew better than GRRM and cut tons of book content.

Young Griff, Dorme etc were cut.

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Robot2600
10/23/22 9:53:55 PM
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567 are the bad ones. they have their moments.

8 isnt bad, i mean the ending is sort of meh, but it's definitely better than seasons 6 and 7.

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lilORANG
10/23/22 9:54:20 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
yes, beginning of 5 is when they ran out of book content

everything after season 4 is progressively worse except a couple banger episodes in season 6 that ultimately arent actually worth it
Ha, it's funny bc I'm watching this dumbass fight sequence and I'm just thinking "this seems suspiciously stupider than everything that's come before"

Speaks volumes to the writing dip that I know nothing about this series but could spot something like this the moment it happened.

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KhlavicLanguage
10/23/22 9:55:10 PM
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ManaYuka posted...
They didnt run out of book content. They decided they knew better than GRRM and cut tons of book content.

Young Griff, Dorme etc were cut.
dorne wasnt cut, it was reworked into The Wacky Adventures of Jamie and Bronn
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KhlavicLanguage
10/23/22 9:55:47 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Ha, it's funny bc I'm watching this dumbass fight sequence and I'm just thinking "this seems suspiciously stupider than everything that's come before"

Speaks volumes to the writing dip that I know nothing about this series but could spot something like this the moment it happened.

i've rewatched seasons 1-4 like four times and watched 5-8 only the first time
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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 9:58:06 PM
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season 4 is when it starts to get bad. besides the part mentioned in the OP, there's also shirtless Ramsay soloing a bunch of Ironborn, and the worst offender of the season, Karl the fucking Legend of Gin Alley. but it's still a decent season overall. the drop-off of quality with each successive season is greater and greater.

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lilORANG
10/23/22 9:59:36 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
season 4 is when it starts to get bad. besides the part mentioned in the OP, there's also shirtless Ramsay soloing a bunch of Ironborn, and the worst offender of the season, Karl the fucking Legend of Gin Alley. but it's still a decent season overall. the drop-off of quality with each successive season is greater and greater.
Ooh, I do remember shirtless Ramsay. That was indeed dumb. Was that in the books?

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LeCh0nk
10/23/22 9:59:49 PM
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Is it season six where Littlefinger gets his teleportation device?

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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 9:59:50 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Ooh, I do remember shirtless Ramsay. That was indeed dumb. Was that in the books?
lol not hardly

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Yazarogi
10/23/22 10:01:10 PM
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1-4 peak.

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10/23/22 10:02:45 PM
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Ch33z_I_Luv posted...
I thought 5 was fine, and 6 as well. 7/8 were pretty bad

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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 10:03:36 PM
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yeah

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lilORANG
10/23/22 10:05:47 PM
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KhlavicLanguage posted...
dorne wasnt cut, it was reworked into The Wacky Adventures of Jamie and Bronn
Tbf I love Bronn so if he gets up to some wacky shenanigans that's totally fine

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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 10:07:03 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Tbf I love Bronn so if he gets up to some wacky shenanigans that's totally fine
be careful what you wish for..............

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Gobstoppers12
10/23/22 10:12:54 PM
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5 is where cracks start to show and a lot of plot lines become way, way less interesting. Especially the stuff involving Daenerys. But the real decline is later when the pacing speeds up to absurd levels and the dialogue starts being secondary to big setpiece moments and clumsy plot progression.

Granted, even in seasons 6, 7, and 8, there are insanely good visuals and a lot of really good character moments, but the truly brilliant stuff becomes very rare.

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coolguyjimmy
10/23/22 10:35:40 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Karl the f***ing Legend of Gin Alley

While not at all in-keeping with the universe, I actually enjoyed Karl. Yes, it felt out of place, and strange -- but it was comedic (I don't know if it was intended to be...).
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DoesntMatter
10/23/22 10:42:44 PM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
While not at all in-keeping with the universe, I actually enjoyed Karl. Yes, it felt out of place, and strange -- but it was comedic (I don't know if it was intended to be...).
oh, it was freaking hilarious, there's no doubt about that. but only because of how bizarre and ham-fisted and out of place it was.

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JuanCarlos1
10/23/22 10:48:31 PM
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Thing is that as bad as some of the later season can get, they still hold some of the most amazing tv episodes ever. Season 8 is completely straight up flash over substance and they forget and ignore A LOT of storylines. It also KILLS the character development some characters had. It become Hollywood GOT

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Blue_Popo
10/23/22 10:55:16 PM
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Season 5 is where thr cracks start showing and the writing dumbs down

Jon Snow carries it hard enough and episode 8 is maybe best in the series. Weaker than 1-4 but still great tv
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lilORANG
10/24/22 10:55:45 PM
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Why tf does this random religious cult have authority over the actual king

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DoesntMatter
10/24/22 10:56:32 PM
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because the king is a wet doormat

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DrizztLink
10/24/22 10:56:59 PM
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DoesntMatter posted...
because the king is a wet doormat
well, not yet

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DoesntMatter
10/24/22 10:57:21 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
well, not yet
lol

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ManaYuka
10/24/22 11:00:50 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Why tf does this random religious cult have authority over the actual king

Remember how in real life history the pope was stronger than individual kings in Europe? Its like that.

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lilORANG
10/24/22 11:04:19 PM
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ManaYuka posted...
Remember how in real life history the pope was stronger than individual kings in Europe? Its like that.
But this dude isn't the pope. Tommen's guards offered to slaughter this loser's followers. Cersei and the council refer to him as a "fanatic." He commands zero respect yet his band of depry monks are able to imprison the royal family and ignore orders from the king.

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10/24/22 11:05:48 PM
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ManaYuka
10/24/22 11:07:52 PM
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lilORANG posted...
But this dude isn't the pope. Tommen's guards offered to slaughter this loser's followers. Cersei and the council refer to him as a "fanatic." He commands zero respect yet his band of depry monks are able to imprison the royal family and ignore orders from the king.

He becomes the High Septon.

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lilORANG
10/24/22 11:20:26 PM
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ManaYuka posted...
He becomes the High Septon.
Cersei had the previous one executed lol

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lilORANG
10/24/22 11:21:33 PM
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Also lol'd when Jorah walked into the fighting pits and just soloed everyone barehanded.

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Yazarogi
10/25/22 9:44:14 AM
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lilORANG posted...
Also lol'd when Jorah

well he actually would be one of the few characters who could pull something like that off.

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masterpug53
10/25/22 9:47:07 AM
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Barristan's death was, for me, the definitive turning point - the moment when the show went from 'great but flawed' to 'holy fuck what were they thinking.'

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DoesntMatter
10/25/22 10:32:46 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
Barristan's death was, for me, the definitive turning point - the moment when the show went from 'great but flawed' to 'holy fuck what were they thinking.'
what made it even worse was how dickish Dunce and Dipshit were about it after the fact. they said in an interview or panel or something afterward that the actor had written them a letter when he learned they were going to kill him off imploring him to reconsider since his character was still alive in the books and he felt there was more for his character to do in the show, and they said that just made them want to kill him off more! fuck those assholes.

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Shadow_Don
10/25/22 10:44:40 AM
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Season 5 and 6 is where it got bad but there were still some great moments and it was possible to overlook the bad writing.

Season 7 and 8 me and my friends were just openly mocking the show as we watched.

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masterpug53
10/25/22 11:08:21 AM
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Shadow_Don posted...
Season 5 and 6 is where it got bad but there were still some great moments and it was possible to overlook the bad writing.

Season 7 and 8 me and my friends were just openly mocking the show as we watched.

This is a more accurate rendition of the horse meme from earlier in the topic:

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Shadow_Don
10/25/22 12:05:13 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
This is a more accurate rendition of the horse meme from earlier in the topic:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/2/1/AARIckAAD0K5.jpg

Yea thats perfect lol.

For as shit as season 6 was it definitely had the best finale.

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ZevLoveDOOM
10/25/22 12:06:06 PM
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season 5 did start to get some shit sprinkles (Dorne anyone?).

but it wasnt till season 7 that the shit avalanche really took off!
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gu-gohan
10/25/22 12:17:35 PM
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Season 5 and 6 are still good, in fact, some of the most memorable events happen there. But it slowly starts to shift away from fantastic narratives/dialogues to visuals/epicness.
Season 7 is when it takes the first hit. And season 8... well... it's just bad.

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Marcos_Cafu_2
10/25/22 12:32:29 PM
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4 was where some cracks began to show but there was like 2 or 3 the entire season, it was still overall extremely good and if it ended there, you'd not have people even complain.

5 they wildly veered off course from the book plots and stupid stuff started happening. It did, however, still have some very good episodes here and there - it was like 3 great episodes (but with still stupid parts in them), 3 meh ones and 4 just shit in seasons 5, 6 and 7.

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lilORANG
10/25/22 12:34:08 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
(Dorne anyone?).

I just watched this girl get naked, brag about how she poisoned Bronn, and then immediately gave him the antidote anyways. Wtf lol

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ManaYuka
10/25/22 2:34:02 PM
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Yeah DB Weiss is behind the weird sex stuff in the show, including the infamous line at the end of season 5 its awful, youll know it when u see it.

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garan
10/25/22 4:32:50 PM
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That's when it starts to get weak, but the last couple of seasons are where it falls off a cliff of bad writing.
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lilORANG
10/25/22 9:51:18 PM
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Holy shit, Jon killed a white walker! That was actually a really good episode.

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DoesntMatter
10/25/22 9:53:44 PM
#48:


lilORANG posted...
Holy shit, Jon killed a white walker! That was actually a really good episode.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnZdj1lveAQ

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lilORANG
10/25/22 10:25:36 PM
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Stannis is such a goober. Not a single good showing in this whole damn show.

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pegusus123456
10/25/22 10:28:09 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Why tf does this random religious cult have authority over the actual king
It's better explained in the books, but you can assume the same is true in the show. The tl;dr is that he has power because he's an extremely popular figure among the common folk, is no slouch when it comes to playing the game of thrones himself, and Cersei's stupidity.

The long and short of is that the Faith of the Seven had somewhat of a revival thanks to the war. This caused a religious movement of common folk who caused themselves sparrows. Outraged at the murder of septas/septons, flouting of holy laws such as breaking the guest rights at the Red Wedding, and the burning of septs, they armed themselves as best they could. The High Sparrow - as you might guess by the name - rose to prominence in this movement and eventually became its leader.

When the Most Devout were to select a new High Septon, these sparrows stormed in and took over the meeting. They forced the Devout to choose the High Sparrow. He immediately sells the fine gold and jewels that used to decorate the Sept of Baelor and donates the money to the poor, winning over the smallfolk. Cersei notes that he is far more intelligent and shrewd that then previous one, meaning assassination would be more difficult. And if he were assassinated, the sparrows and more religous smallfolk would likely riot.

But by far the biggest reason they become an issue is because Cersei is a bonafide, drool-in-a-bucket moron. I forget how it goes down in the show, but in the book the High Sparrow refuses to bless Tommen's coronation. When she goes to him to secure it, he manipulates her into restoring the Faith Militant, a military branch of the church that had been outlawed after they rebelled against the crown about a century and a half before. So then instead of a bunch of commoners with hand axes and pitchforks, he can suddenly arm them with swords and armor.

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