Poll of the Day > What would make Pokemon games better?

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If FromSoft made them

Better for who? The majority of players enjoy the games as they are and much of what would make them 'better' to the players that do complain about it would make it worse for the casual players that form the bulk of the community.

I would say innovating on a battle system that's remained almost the exact same since 1996 would be a good start, and introducing gimmick fights isn't the way to do it.

guns

more post game content, harder (optional) difficulty (whether it's post game battle tower/subway/etc. or story mode is up for debate), having the option to catch ALL current available pokemon in-game (this excludes events/etc.)

not creating gimmicks and then abandoning them (i miss mega evolutions)

If they spent more time making them in general. They feel more like mobile game levels of quality over AAA levels of quality. Not bad, but not enough to keep me around after 20 years.

They could also just make them harder and I would be happy, or give it a hard mode. I feel like I don't actually play the game until hour 40.

For the love of God a fucking fast forward button. Shit takes so long and it's not entertaining. I love most turn based rpgs and they're somehow more tedious

I've been playing scarlet and I feel they've made a huge step in the right direction.

Still though bring back all pokemon

Dump the 4 move system. Or at least have pokemon have their complete pool of moves at all time and you can swap which moves they battle with at anytime outside of battle. The move relearning and tutoring is a huge pain in the ass.

hypnox posted...

Dump the 4 move system. Or at least have pokemon have their complete pool of moves at all time and you can swap which moves they battle with at anytime outside of battle. The move relearning and tutoring is a huge pain in the ass.

Scarlet and violet do this!

double battles.

temtem having 90% trainer double battles is great

yeah they gotta make the single player not stupidly piss baby easy and also introduce a fast forward option for battles

Yea needs hard mode.

Nothing.
Optionally starting to wish that I could remove them from my memory.

Fewer Pokemon with more variation between individuals
The ability to pursue different professions and/or goals

Make them more fun

give shuckle a gun

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Oqk_fN0NRgg

Randomized starter option would be fun. I want to start the game with a caterpie.

What if you played as Team rocket or the Galaxy

Franchise cross over with Yugioh or Digimon

slacker03150 posted...

Randomized starter option would be fun. I want to start the game with a caterpie.

Yeah, this kind of stuff. If you've played many fangames there are so many cool ideas like that which could be included.

The option to avoid the meaningless starting miniquest where you get your Pokedex and also the option to choose just about any Pokemon as your starter on replays (or give you a random), etc. And to speed things up. And to skip cutscenes, etc.

Other than that, the games are mostly fine.

A decent story. There really isn't a good reason to not have a better writing in these games.

More post-game content even as updates if they have to. Also just more side content in general. Pokestar Studios, Pokemon Musicals, Pokemon Contests, The video editing thing in XY. I love little distractions like that. That's why I like the Yakuza series so much.

Stop pandering to just Gen 1 nostalgia. I have nostalgia for all the other gens as well. Put some more throwbacks to them please. Like I liked seeing Grimsley in SM. I liked seeing Cynthia in BW. The PWT in BW2 was really despite it just being battles against the old Gym Leaders and E4 members.

For the love of God let me skip cutscenes. Sun and Moon are the most boring games in the world because it stops you literally every 10 steps to play yet another cutscene. It's baffling how egregious it is in those games.

If you had parties of Pokemon.

If I could create a party of 4 that all fight at the same time with classic turn-based combat ala Final Fantasy IV/V/VI, it would be a god-tier game.

For me , this has been said to o death, is that there needs to be a more difficult endgame. There is so much depth so Pokemon but....why even care if you beat the entire game with only 1 or 2 Pokemon???

Cruddy_horse posted...

I would say innovating on a battle system that's remained almost the exact same since 1996 would be a good start, and introducing gimmick fights isn't the way to do it.

This is just not true, they have added in abilities, held items, double battles, weather, terrain, and had the physical/special split, all of which changed it quite a bit from gen 1

Honestly I won't even lie, make a 16 bit pixel based Pokemon game that blends realism into the backgrounds and environments (sort of like Octopath Traveller).

Feature only Pokemon from the first 3 or 4 gens. Have it take place in Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn, except 25 years after the events of those games. You have to travel between regions and deal with shit being stirred up by Team Rocket.

You'll end up with 24 badges before you battle the Elite Eight (oh fuck dude). The levels would naturally progress through the game, so the Elite Eight would have Pokemon in their level 90s.

The Champion would be someone totally unexpected but still nostalgia based, like a grown up Youngster Joey, with a level 100 Raticate as well as a fully balanced team of high 90s Pokemon, maybe even something nuts like a level 99 Mewtwo or something.

Basically just make something that itches the nostalgia of the original fans while acknowledging that they aren't kids anymore. Actual kids would love this as well.

Muscles posted...

This is just not true, they have added in abilities, held items, double battles, weather, terrain, and had the physical/special split, all of which changed it quite a bit from gen 1

Yeah, they've made plenty of changes to the battle system throughout the years. The core is still the same, certainly, but this isn't Final Fantasy. There's no reason to expect the battle system to fundamentally change with each new game.

Rework the confusion status ailment.

It could add recoil to attacks, make the pokemon sometimes use the wrong move, target incorrectly in doubles sometimes. Get creative with it.

This hit themselves in confusion junk is ridiculous.

the #1 thing scarlet/violet needs is scaling. what the fuck is the point of an open world and 3 progression paths if enemies are are a static level? sure, i could go to that level 40 gym when my starter is level 15...but why would i

Better graphics

Give us back the optional crap. Like turning off Exp. Share/All.

Do something similar to the memory card easter eggs so that people who know how to play the game can just fast forward through the "tutorial" portion of the game. Heck, you can have the professor of the game be like "I sense a champion's aura from you... maybe you were the ____'s champion in a past life!" sort of schtick.

trodi_911 posted...

A decent story. There really isn't a good reason to not have a better writing in these games.

Any attempt at a broader story has been awful and, honestly, putting some big story would make the games absolute shit.

papercup posted...

For the love of God let me skip cutscenes. Sun and Moon are the most boring games in the world because it stops you literally every 10 steps to play yet another cutscene. It's baffling how egregious it is in those games.

Yeah, it was annoying AF.

faramir77 posted...

Honestly I won't even lie, make a 16 bit pixel based Pokemon game that blends realism into the backgrounds and environments (sort of like Octopath Traveller).

Feature only Pokemon from the first 3 or 4 gens. Have it take place in Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn, except 25 years after the events of those games. You have to travel between regions and deal with shit being stirred up by Team Rocket.

You'll end up with 24 badges before you battle the Elite Eight (oh fuck dude). The levels would naturally progress through the game, so the Elite Eight would have Pokemon in their level 90s.

The Champion would be someone totally unexpected but still nostalgia based, like a grown up Youngster Joey, with a level 100 Raticate as well as a fully balanced team of high 90s Pokemon, maybe even something nuts like a level 99 Mewtwo or something.

Basically just make something that itches the nostalgia of the original fans while acknowledging that they aren't kids anymore. Actual kids would love this as well.

Would play the fuck out of that.

papercup posted...

For the love of God let me skip cutscenes. Sun and Moon are the most boring games in the world because it stops you literally every 10 steps to play yet another cutscene. It's baffling how egregious it is in those games.

no

boobies and butts

you cant use pokemon for fighting so when you get in a tiff with another person you either have to duke it out like real men or talk it out like little pansies and all the gyms are actual gyms where you get ripped and train to be the strongest most alpha chad you can

that shit would be the sickest game ever

PoopingSkeleton posted...

guns

Blastoise had two bazookas on his back.

blastoise has way more than two bazookas now

https://i.imgur.com/bsn4y7F.png

A lot of people have mentioned some good stuff. I think they could also add:
NG+
Specific challenges with various restrictions/goals
Have the badges actually do something? Like you can wear one of them and it gives you some sort of bonus to the related type? I dunno...
They need to balance the types in the series. I keep seeing people saying this is a huge problem and though I don't play the games myself I also got that impression. It sounds like Fairy type is way too good atm.

As far as stories go, I've always thought it was weird that every single main-line game has the same exact premise. You're a trainer, go earn badges. Like... the series has so many characters in so many jobs; why not do a game where your goal is not to be a trainer, but to be like... a conservationist? You can still do the gyms and such, why not? but... why does that have to be the foundation of each game every time? I mean, I remember learning about pokemon for the very first time and being like "training seems like the most boring thing to do in that setting."

Gaawa_chan posted...

Like... the series has so many characters in so many jobs; why not do a game where your goal is not to be a trainer, but to be like... a conservationist?

That's the best part of the Special manga imo. Every main character has a different goal and strengths, and it isn't always to beat gyms or become the champion. Like Ruby's all about Pokemon Contests.

What if all 3 starters absolutely sucked? That way you couldn't beat the entire game with 2 Pokemon.

Choose the city you start in and the city chosen affects your starter.

bring back asshole rival
make it harder
limited really balanced deliberate roster of new and old pokemon
less talking
more battling
memorable trainers
harder gym leaders
incentivize team building somehow idk

acesxhigh posted...

make it harder
less talking
more battling
memorable trainers
harder gym leaders

i just got my entire shit kicked in by a dragon type snom

definitely less talking so far, except in the beginning that was kind of a slog

as many battles as you want

this is subjective but these characters are all pretty memorable to me, at least looking wise anyways. one of the characters is just straight up the mc from smt5 i s2g

idk about gym leaders, the two i've fought have been piss easy but that's due to typing matchup. the bad team leader i fought pushed my shit in and then teabagged me, so ymmv

acesxhigh posted...

incentivize team building somehow idk

one of the pokemon i have has an ability that only works if a specific other pokemon is also out so that's like, well it's not nothing ig

Hard_Light posted...

this is subjective but these characters are all pretty memorable to me, at least looking wise anyways. one of the characters is just straight up the mc from smt5 i s2g

memorable trainers more in the sense that like, hey remember that one Hiker with nothing but 5 self destructing geodudes or something.

you know what I mean, like if every little trainer battle has its place in the world to the point where you even possibly have to account for them in your game plan when going into a playthrough. make it mmore replayabnle