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Garioshi
11/21/22 11:23:48 AM
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It was created so that Southern slave patrols could have guns and a militia could quickly be armed in case of imminent attack by another nation. We no longer have slave patrols and we have a standing army.

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Alteres
11/21/22 11:26:49 AM
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It was created with the inherent intent that we did not trust the government, such is clearly stated by quotes from various original sources.


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OudeGeuze
11/21/22 11:29:12 AM
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Alteres posted...
It was created with the inherent intent that we did not trust the government, such is clearly stated by quotes from various original sources.
We don't trust the government btw blue lives matter
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Dessan
11/21/22 11:30:18 AM
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Alteres
11/21/22 11:32:37 AM
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OudeGeuze posted...
We don't trust the government btw blue lives matter
Assumptions are fun arent they?

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Cheater87
11/21/22 11:35:49 AM
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Sadly a lot of 2nd amendment people are super right wing, so they'll be okay with the right wing taking over the government in, say a coup.

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AlephZero
11/21/22 11:38:05 AM
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Exactly. Only cops should have guns.

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ThePrinceFish
11/21/22 11:38:30 AM
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Cheater87 posted...
Sadly a lot of 2nd amendment people are super right wing, so they'll be okay with the right wing taking over the government in, say a coup.
Gee if something like that happened, it sure is a good thing you have the second amendment right to arm yourself!

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ultimate_reaver
11/21/22 11:41:05 AM
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https://youtu.be/43NzlOx2pIs

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AloneIBreak
11/21/22 11:42:52 AM
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This discussion should be fruitful.

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FL81
11/21/22 11:45:57 AM
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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
the justification is given right there in the text though

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indica
11/21/22 11:48:11 AM
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Garioshi posted...
It was created so that Southern slave patrols could have guns and a militia could quickly be armed in case of imminent attack by another nation. We no longer have slave patrols and we have a standing army.

Alteres posted...
It was created with the inherent intent that we did not trust the government, such is clearly stated by quotes from various original sources.
Actually, both of these are cited historical reasons, but, honestly, I doubt the veracity of the second because what government would codify a right saying, "hey, if you don't trust us, you can shoot us." >_>

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ThePrinceFish
11/21/22 11:48:37 AM
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indica posted...
Actually, both of these are cited historical reasons, but, honestly, I doubt the veracity of the second because what government would codify a right saying, "hey, if you don't trust us, you can shoot us." >_>
A government made of people who just got done shooting at their previous government.

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indica
11/21/22 11:49:40 AM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
A government made of people who just got done shooting at their previous government.
Which would be all the more reason not to want that to repeat itself >_>

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Sufferedphoneix
11/21/22 11:50:46 AM
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ThePrinceFish posted...
A government made of people who just got done shooting at their previous government.

Yeah I think one even mentioned the government should be uprooted and remade every so often as corruption was bound to happen.

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hummus93
11/21/22 11:50:55 AM
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so it was created to defend ourself

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Sufferedphoneix
11/21/22 11:51:57 AM
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indica posted...
Which would be all the more reason not to want that to repeat itself >_>

They had no intention on being the government that got shot. They suspected corruption would eventually work it's way in. Assume they felt they'd be long dead by the time that happened

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indica
11/21/22 11:52:44 AM
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hummus93 posted...
so it was created to defend ourself
it was created for landowners to defend themselves from uprising slave populations and the possible rebel British sympathizer...

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ThePrinceFish
11/21/22 11:52:53 AM
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indica posted...
Which would be all the more reason not to want that to repeat itself >_>
The people making up that government firmly believed that corruption was inherently likely to take root in government because they watched it happen and wanted their descendants to be able to do the same if necessary.

Were there some that thought "fuck them, I've got mine, we government now", sure. But they got run over when the Bill of Rights was being ratified.

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Questionmarktarius
11/21/22 11:53:21 AM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
Yeah I think one even mentioned the government should be uprooted and remade every so often as corruption was bound to happen.
Federalist Papers is a fun read.
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indica
11/21/22 11:53:30 AM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
They had no intention on being the government that got shot. They suspected corruption would eventually work it's way in. Assume they felt they'd be long dead by the time that happened
That's really reaching...

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Sufferedphoneix
11/21/22 11:57:20 AM
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indica posted...
That's really reaching...

Not saying corruption didn't happen. I'm speculating what their mindset was. They of course didn't think they where corrupt.

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Sufferedphoneix
11/21/22 11:58:08 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Federalist Papers is a fun read.

I feel like I've read it or at least the highlights back in school. That was over half my life ago though.

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