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mehmeh1
12/08/22 11:03:06 AM
#51:


WingsOfGood posted...
Aren't this all from non canon video gamea tho
nope, this is from the new movie

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TMOG
12/08/22 12:29:48 PM
#52:


GrandConjuraton posted...
Plot twist: DBZ was that way as well.
Oh absolutely, but not as bad as Super
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TMOG
12/08/22 12:34:32 PM
#53:


Also why does Orange Piccolo give off the same energy as Sonic Boom Knuckles
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codey
12/08/22 12:40:52 PM
#54:


TMOG posted...
Oh absolutely, but not as bad as Super

Honestly, even as a kid I preferred regular old dragon ball. Z was just all about fights, while DB had really fun adventures and characters between the fights, plus those awesome tournaments. If a new character got introduced in DBZ, it was pretty much guaranteed they were just gonna be another strong fighter, but a new character in DB could be almost anyone. Strong, weak, wise, funny, it really ran the gamut.

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TMOG
12/08/22 12:57:48 PM
#55:


I agree completely, OG Dragonball is the best part of the series
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ellis123
12/08/22 12:58:56 PM
#56:


codey posted...
Honestly, even as a kid I preferred regular old dragon ball. Z was just all about fights, while DB had really fun adventures and characters between the fights, plus those awesome tournaments. If a new character got introduced in DBZ, it was pretty much guaranteed they were just gonna be another strong fighter, but a new character in DB could be almost anyone. Strong, weak, wise, funny, it really ran the gamut.
Dragon Ball was a gag show, DBZ was just generic battle.

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TMOG
12/08/22 1:00:48 PM
#57:


Namek is the best Z arc because it's the only one where characters not named "Goku" get to actually do something productive instead of just jobbing until he shows up
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SneakyGoomba
12/08/22 1:09:01 PM
#58:


I don't watch super but that movie was a lot of fun.
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SneakyGoomba
12/08/22 1:09:40 PM
#59:


TMOG posted...
Namek is the best Z arc because it's the only one where characters not named "Goku" get to actually do something productive instead of just jobbing until he shows up

You should watch the newest movie then. It's about all the b listers getting to do stuff.
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Octans
12/08/22 1:22:28 PM
#60:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
The Fam @ the CE Battle Royale
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Lmao at the giant Shrek boots

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YugiNoob
12/08/22 1:35:29 PM
#61:


mehmeh1 posted...
No but he has a robot eyepatch companion called Oatmeel
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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 1:48:33 PM
#62:


TMOG posted...
Namek is the best Z arc because it's the only one where characters not named "Goku" get to actually do something productive instead of just jobbing until he shows up

That's literally what they do in the Namek arc.

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TMOG
12/08/22 1:50:23 PM
#63:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
That's literally what they do in the Namek arc.
Only once the Ginyus arrive. Before that they're out there doing shit.
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ellis123
12/08/22 1:52:59 PM
#64:


TMOG posted...
Only once the Ginyus arrive. Before that they're out there doing shit.
And in the Buu Arc they're all doing something prior to being Gohan jobbers.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 1:56:25 PM
#65:


TMOG posted...
Only once the Ginyus arrive. Before that they're out there doing shit.

Gohan and Krillin literally do nothing but hide from Vegeta, who kills fodder. So nothing. The whole arc is "wait until Goku gets there".

ellis123 posted...
And in the Buu Arc they're all doing something prior to being Gohan jobbers.

Vegeta tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
Gotenks tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
Gohan tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
And it all comes down to Goku as usual.

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ellis123
12/08/22 1:58:56 PM
#66:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Vegeta tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
Gotenks tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
Gohan tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
And it all comes down to Goku as usual.
Sorry, I was thinking Cell and wrote Buu.

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TMOG
12/08/22 2:02:31 PM
#67:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Gohan and Krillin literally do nothing but hide from Vegeta, who kills fodder. So nothing. The whole arc is "wait until Goku gets there".
I said "characters not named Goku", not specifically Gohan and Krillin

Vegeta is also a character not named Goku and he spends the entire pre-Ginyu arc trolling the absolute fucking shit out of Frieza
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A_Good_Boy
12/08/22 2:15:19 PM
#69:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Gohan and Krillin literally do nothing but hide from Vegeta, who kills fodder. So nothing. The whole arc is "wait until Goku gets there".

Vegeta tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
Gotenks tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
Gohan tries to kill Boo. Jobs.
And it all comes down to Goku as usual.
Your issue is you've reduced the arc down solely to its fights.

Bulma (the most useful character in the franchise) safely flies the group to Namek in a spaceship she has little familiarity with.
She gives the guys the dragon radar (the most useful invention created by the most useful character) and they run off to collect some dragon balls, and end up saving Dende. Those series of decisions pay off immensely for the group because they're then brought to Guru's house and meet Nail.
Vegeta steals the balls from Frieza and then the gang steals the balls from Vegeta.
Then a bunch of fights happen and then Goku arrives.

In the other arcs, those guys don't do a damn thing. They hang out when Frieza comes back to earth. Except for Yamcha (who "finds" an android), they don't contribute much to the fights. Bulma creates a remote and gives Krillin literally one fucking job and he can't do it. Then that's about it for everyone outside of the Cell saga.

In the Buu saga, the guys are literally spectators for just about the whole entire arc.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 2:45:18 PM
#70:


ellis123 posted...
Sorry, I was thinking Cell and wrote Buu.

Same thing, but replace Goku saving the day with Gohan.

Piccolo tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Vegeta tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Trunks tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Goku tries to kill Cell but jobs.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 2:53:04 PM
#71:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Bulma (the most useful character in the franchise) safely flies the group to Namek in a spaceship she has little familiarity with.

@A_Good_Boy LOL no. The ship itself had an autopilot so Bulma wasn't even needed to come at all. If Goku could make it to Namek all by himself with no issue, then so could Gohan and Krillin. Bulma does absolutely nothing in this arc and is left behind in the middle of nowhere the whole time they're on Namek

A_Good_Boy posted...
they run off to collect some dragon balls, and end up saving Dende. Those series of decisions pay off immensely for the group because they're then brought to Guru's house and meet Nail.
Vegeta steals the balls from Frieza and then the gang steals the balls from Vegeta.

None of this shit is important. A whole bunch of back and forth where nothing actually happens. They steal balls from each other, yet none of them end up summoning the dragon until after Goku arrives. So yeah you may as well just skip to when he arrives.

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ellis123
12/08/22 2:54:18 PM
#72:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Same thing, but replace Goku saving the day with Gohan.

Piccolo tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Vegeta tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Trunks tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Goku tries to kill Cell but jobs.
Dang.

It's almost like you got really close to the joke and then repeatedly slammed your face into a brick wall.

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A_Good_Boy
12/08/22 2:56:21 PM
#73:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
None of this shit is important. A whole bunch of back and forth where nothing actually happens. They steal balls from each other, yet none of them end up summoning the dragon until after Goku arrives. So yeah you may as well just skip to when he arrives.
If they didn't rescue Dende then they'd have literally nobody around to summon the dragon because everyone else that could speak Namekian was murdered. Dende was only saved because of Gohan and Krillin. They only made it to Namek because Bulma got them there safely. Bulma is literally the star of the show.

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TMOG
12/08/22 2:57:48 PM
#74:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Vegeta was about to kill Cell but instead allows him to get stronger instead of dealing the finishing blow like a complete fucking idiot.
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ellis123
12/08/22 2:58:38 PM
#75:


TMOG posted...
ftfy
Just wait until he realizes that Frieza showed up.

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TMOG
12/08/22 2:59:08 PM
#76:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
None of this shit is important. A whole bunch of back and forth where nothing actually happens. They steal balls from each other, yet none of them end up summoning the dragon until after Goku arrives. So yeah you may as well just skip to when he arrives.
Did they summon the dragon because Goku arrived?

No?

Then your argument sucks.
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A_Good_Boy
12/08/22 3:02:24 PM
#77:


TMOG posted...
Did they summon the dragon because Goku arrived?

No?

Then your argument sucks.
You can't even make a convincing argument that the dragon balls were only used because Goku showed up. He showed up after all of the Namekians were killed. If it wasn't for the people that showed up before him that rescued Dende then they'd be shit out of luck despite having all of them in their possession. It's one of the few instances where if the supporting cast wasn't there to help then the show would be over.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 3:04:09 PM
#78:


A_Good_Boy posted...
If they didn't rescue Dende

Dende is useless. Oh he summoned the dragon so they could revive Piccolo ... who just jobs to Freeza and doesn't do shit.

Really you may as well just skip to Goku vs Freeza lol

A_Good_Boy posted...
They only made it to Namek because Bulma got them there safely.

No, the autopilot got them there safely. Bulma did nothing.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 3:05:44 PM
#79:


A_Good_Boy posted...
You can't even make a convincing argument that the dragon balls were only used because Goku showed up.

If not for Goku showing up, Reacoom would have killed Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta and they wouldn't get their wish

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TMOG
12/08/22 3:06:38 PM
#80:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Dende is useless.
Ok so you've literally just never seen/read Dragon Ball then and are just shitposting

Good to know
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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 3:08:46 PM
#81:


TMOG posted...
ftfy

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/8/AAa8v0AAD94k.jpg
Next.

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TMOG
12/08/22 3:09:33 PM
#82:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/0/8/AAa8v0AAD94k.jpg
Next.
Did you not watch the Vegeta vs. Semi-Perfect Cell fight that preceded that one?

Oh wait I already figured out that you hadn't
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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 3:11:28 PM
#83:


TMOG posted...
Did you not watch the Vegeta vs. Semi-Perfect Cell fight that preceded that one?

Did Vegeta kill Cell? No?

Did he end up jobbing to Cell? Yes?

Next.


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TMOG
12/08/22 3:12:31 PM
#84:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Did Vegeta kill Cell? No?

Did he end up jobbing to Cell? Yes?

Next.
The only reason Vegeta was able to job to Perfect Cell is literally because he didn't kill Semi-Perfect Cell when he was jobbing to Vegeta.

Do you just not understand how cause-and-effect works
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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 3:14:12 PM
#85:


TMOG posted...
The only reason Vegeta was able to job to Perfect Cell is literally because he didn't kill Semi-Perfect Cell when he was jobbing to Vegeta.

In other words, Vegeta had the chance of being useful and he blew it. Meaning he didn't do shit in the end. Five minutes of glory doesn't make him useful when he fucked his one job. Next.
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littlebro07
12/08/22 3:14:47 PM
#86:


gamer167 posted...
https://imgur.com/a/QXj2wFP

lol I remember my friends and I loved drawing DBZ characters and we'd just make their hair longer and longer for higher super saiyan levels

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TMOG
12/08/22 3:20:42 PM
#87:


Also

Scotty_Rogers posted...
No, the autopilot got them there safely. Bulma did nothing.
The ship Bulma, Krillin, and Gohan took didn't have autopilot. She was literally piloting the ship using her own technical knowledge and the Namekian that she was able to learn before they took off.

Goku's ship was the one that got there via autopilot.
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A_Good_Boy
12/08/22 3:25:17 PM
#88:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Dende is useless. Oh he summoned the dragon so they could revive Piccolo ... who just jobs to Freeza and doesn't do shit.

Really you may as well just skip to Goku vs Freeza lol
Going to Namek and reviving Piccolo was damn near the specific reason they went to Namek in the first place. So without Dende they wouldn't have been able to do even that.

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Kami_no_Kami
12/08/22 3:27:36 PM
#89:


It looks like Gohan has a white banana sticking out the front of his head.
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TMOG
12/08/22 3:28:07 PM
#90:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Going to Namek and reviving Piccolo was damn near the specific reason they went to Namek in the first place. So without Dende they wouldn't have been able to do even that.
Also Dende using his healing powers to keep everybody alive, and also being the reason they were able to get back to Earth
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Kami_no_Kami
12/08/22 3:37:10 PM
#91:


Also, in addition to Oatmeel, Granolah is a Cerealian from planet Cereal who share the planet with Sugarians.

Other Cerealians include Flayk (Flake) and Muezli (Muesli).
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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 4:21:35 PM
#93:


TMOG posted...
The ship Bulma, Krillin, and Gohan took didn't have autopilot.

@TMOG

Yes, it did. All you have to do is tell the ship where to go, and it'll take you there; we see this happen when Popo tells it to go to Jupiter.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/0/AAa8v0AAD95i.jpg
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/1/AAa8v0AAD95j.jpg
Bulma wasn't even planning to go to Namek in the first place; she wanted Popo to go by himself, and we know he's not a pilot. It was only after Popo refused to leave his temple that Krillin suggested Bulma go in case something were to go wrong with the ship on the way there, which was pointless as nothing went wrong.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/3/AAfUl4AADuXN.jpg
For fuck sake, we literally see Bulma sleeping on the ship with no one piloting it and you're telling me it had no autopilot?
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/2/AAa8v0AAD95k.jpg
She even regrets not building a stasis chamber to put herself in suspended animation on the way there.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/3/AAa8v0AAD95l.jpg
How do you even think Kami made it to Earth on the ship as a baby? The autopilot. "Ok so you've literally just never seen/read Dragon Ball then and are just shitposting" Cap.

TMOG posted...
She was literally piloting the ship using her own technical knowledge and the Namekian that she was able to learn before they took off.

She didn't pilot shit, and she didn't learn any Namekian; she translated the ship into her own language, which was pointless as you only needed to know a few Namekian terms to operate it.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 4:25:56 PM
#94:


A_Good_Boy posted...
Going to Namek and reviving Piccolo was damn near the specific reason they went to Namek in the first place.

Which was a waste of time to begin with, going to some random planet just to revive their weak jobber friends. Dende isn't useful for helping other useless characters get revived.

TMOG posted...
Also Dende using his healing powers to keep everybody alive, and also being the reason they were able to get back to Earth

Who did he keep alive? Oh, right, the useless side characters who were just jobbing to Freeza until Goku arrived. The funny thing is that he had a clear opportunity to go to Freeza's ship and heal Goku, but he doesn't do that because he sucks.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/7/AAa8v0AAD95p.jpg

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TMOG
12/08/22 4:34:46 PM
#95:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Which was a waste of time to begin with, going to some random planet just to revive their weak jobber friends.
Are you literally incapable of viewing characters as anything other than "are they good in fights?"

They went to Namek to revive their friends because they're friends.

Scotty_Rogers posted...
Dende isn't useful for helping other useless characters get revived.
He was the only character* alive who could summon Porunga, so yeah, he's literally useful for helping characters get revived.

*other than Guru

Scotty_Rogers posted...
The funny thing is that he had a clear opportunity to go to Freeza's ship and heal Goku, but he doesn't do that because bad writing.
Dende didn't know who Goku was. They never met. And by the time he showed up to meet Krillin and Gohan at Frieza's ship, they were on a serious time crunch to summon Porunga and use what they believed to be the only wish before Vegeta woke up for Frieza returned.

After the summoning, Frieza was already on scene and the battle had begun, so there was literally no time for them to tell Dende to go fly away on his own and heal Goku, especially since he was already busy keeping the rest of them alive while trying to avoid Frieza's detection.
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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 4:39:39 PM
#96:


TMOG posted...
Are you literally incapable of viewing characters as anything other than "are they good in fights?"

This is literally a fighting series, LOL. The fighting are the only thing that the plot actually focuses on and fleshes out.

People aren't not watching Dragon Ball to see Dende heal someone; they're watching it to see Goku fuck someone up.

TMOG posted...
He was the only character* alive who could summon Porunga, so yeah, he's literally useful for helping characters get revived.

He's not useful for helping useless characters get revived, no.

TMOG posted...
Dende didn't know who Goku was.

He heard from Gohan and Krillin. And he can sense Ki so he'd know Goku was in the tank healing.

And by the time he showed up to meet Krillin and Gohan at Frieza's ship, they were on a serious time crunch to summon Porunga and use what they believed to be the only wish before Vegeta woke up for Frieza returned

That's actually his, Guru and Nail's fault for not telling Gohan and Krillin about what they needed to say to summon Polunga when they met with them before. So yeah they get no credit when they screwed everyone up in the first place. Dende stays useless.

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A_Good_Boy
12/08/22 4:50:35 PM
#97:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Which was a waste of time to begin with, going to some random planet just to revive their weak jobber friends. Dende isn't useful for helping other useless characters get revived
If going to Namek to revive jobbers is such a waste of time then why do you think they went to Namek in the first place?

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mybbqrules
12/08/22 5:04:28 PM
#98:


Scotty_Rogers posted...
Dende is useless. Oh he summoned the dragon so they could revive Piccolo ... who just jobs to Freeza and doesn't do shit.
Except bringing back Piccolo restored the earth dragonballs, which they planned to use to bring more people back.

Nobody can just be this willfully ignorant about a show they claim to watch and (at one time) enjoy, which means you argue this way on purpose, which is even more sad.

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GreenMario
12/08/22 5:06:04 PM
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You aren't going to be able to trounce Scotty by remembering the story better. He's not just trolling from ignorance, he remembers little details better than most people and is willing to pull up scans. I also recalled Bulma being bored and napping so obviously the ship had to have had an autopilot function.

Your fond memories of the show from when you watched it when you were 14 aren't enough to counter him. He's a 40 year old man who, despite saying he doesn't like Dragon Ball, has spent a great deal of time thinking about it and taking it apart piece by piece to find the holes and posting about it to the point he's made more than one board impossible to post on without debating him on the stupidest aspects of whatever he has on his mind.

The only way to win is not argue or hit on one of the rare dumb positions he's taken like insisting Bulma didn't invent the dragon radar because other people independently on their own came up with inferior dragon radars. Or in this case, how he calls Bulma completely useless on the flight when he himself says she was the only one there who picks have fixed the spaceship or gotten them to Name if it malfunctioned along the way; it not doing so doesn't mean her presence was meaningless the same way your seatbelt wasn't pointless because you didn't get into an accident. Do this and your problem will be gone because he will ignore you; he can dish it out but he can't take it.

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Scotty_Rogers
12/08/22 5:08:55 PM
#100:


mybbqrules posted...
Except bringing back Piccolo restored the earth dragonballs, which they planned to use to bring more people back.

Reviving Chaozu isn't useful.

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