Poll of the Day > What are some REALLY BIG lies that the Republican party believes?

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that im straight and have a large dong

Name one thing the Republican party believes

Abortion ban
Fertility medication ban
Gay marriage ban
Trickle down economics
Deregulation
Anti-anti discrimination laws
Pro-oil usage
Donald Trump stolen election
Framing trans people as delusional
Pro-military, anti-welfare
Tax cuts for the upper class
Insert everything bad/corrupt about the Democrat party *2 here

The more educated people are the less people vote for them, which is partly why our education system is so bad. They privatized our Colleges to make them more expensive, which are now real-estate football companies.

The republican party doesn't actually believe any of their lies. They just stick to them because they know their voter base does.

"nobody wants to work" because all kinds of businesses have up help wanted signs or have signs saying they are short staffed a lot of the time.

People want to work...they just don't want to work for insulting wages, and if your business pays like $9 an hour, who on earth is going to want to work there when way more can be had as base wages elsewhere?

jewish space lasers

jfk jr being superman also also jesus

weed is a gateway drug

Yellow posted...

The more educated people are the less people vote for them

This is not true

Baby-eaters.
JFK Jr.
Human impact on environment

adjl posted...

The republican party doesn't actually believe any of their lies. They just stick to them because they know their voter base does.

This: they believe in money and will put up with anything for an extra percent next year. That said, at some point they are going to enable the crazies to such an extent that the crazies take over for them. Looking at, for example, the house leadership race we appear to be close to that moment.

Will the big donors be able to hold it off?

you can force everyone to act the same and live similar lives

I heard one say that a womans rest room is one of the most dangerous places for a woman.

BigOlePappy posted...

This is not true

It is quite true. You can look at statistics and there is a direct correlation. It's one of the most well-known ones, surprised you haven't heard about it.

Usually, they'll respond to that one by saying colleges are indoctrinating echo chambers.

The idea that republicans stand for "freedom". They don't, they argue we must give up our rights to be free when reality is our rights are what ensure our freedom.

Trickle down economics: It's never going to work, it's been proven repeatedly that it does not work, "The plan is there is no plan!" is stupid.

Conservative speech is not being censored, hate speech is they should not be considered the same thing.

Forcing individuals to host hate speech is not freedom of speech. Their "free speech zones" have never been free speech zones because they ban anyone who isn't drinking the kool aid. "Free speech zones" are a dumb ass concept to begin with because any place that doesn't moderate it's content is going to be swamped with illegal content.

The concept that regulations are inherently bad. It's treated as a buzz word and instead of going after regulations that actually should be looked into they go after shit like net neutrality.

Privatizing everything, private companies do not exist to provide the best service possible they exist to turn a profit. While there may be problems with public agencies or resources turning them over to companies that only exist to produce minimum viable product is not ever going to be an acceptable answer to those problems. I fail to see how there would be any meaningful difference between how a private police force would work and a criminal organization that extorts protection money on their turf would work as a quick example.

They believe democrats and "celebrities they don't like" are part of an international satanist cannibal pedophile ring that traffics children in the basements of pizza places that don't have basements.

They think any time a shooting happens it's fake or a false flag to get rid of guns.

They think a coup is going to happen any day to install a fascist dictator.

They think the fascist dictator actually won.

They think the fascist attempt to overthrow our government, rights, and freedom was done to give us freedom.

They think I deserve to die because I'm not drinking the kool-aid.

BlackScythe0 posted...

they argue we must give up our rights to be free when reality is our rights are what ensure our freedom.

It was the Democrats who took away people's rights in 2020. The Republicans really didn't do much of anything.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Conservative speech is not being censored, hate speech is they should not be considered the same thing.

The internal twitter files being released are proof that it is. You say "they should not be considered the same thing". Tell that to the progressives.

BlackScythe0 posted...

They believe democrats and "celebrities they don't like" are part of an international satanist cannibal pedophile ring that traffics children in the basements of pizza places that don't have basements.

Not sure about all of that but there was one conviction related to trafficking minors and another person died in his cell while awaiting trial. Still no word on who the customers were.

BlackScythe0 posted...

They think the fascist dictator actually won.

He's in the White House now. He has been for 2 years. The Republicans once again didn't do much of anything and left it to regular people to sort out if he was elected fairly. In at least 2 states there were legal issues that called into question the results.

There it is

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

The internal twitter files being released are proof that it is. You say "they should not be considered the same thing". Tell that to the progressives.

They proved there was a conservative bias with an undisclosed cause.

It could be that they just play the algo better, but in 6/7 countries they said conservative media got promoted 30%- 50% more, with the exception of Germany.

For a party that just pulled off what they did, it's unfair that those same people still allowed to run at all, they just have no need for honesty. Anyone involved in the coup should be arrested and banned from political office.

@SKARDAVNELNATE , can I just ask you where you get your perspective? We've argued before, so I won't bother, I'm just curious as to what kind of shows you watch if you're willing to divulge.

ReturnOfFa posted...

can I just ask you where you get your perspective?

I make it up on the spot to fit the topic at hand. I get information from a variety of sources and decide on my own what I think about what is said. Some sources are clips of news from different countries to see what they think of the US. Others are people who read an article from a news paper and give their thoughts on it. The thing I pay attention to are what values are they expressing and if there are values in conflict which do they prioritize over the other.

BADoglick posted...

weed is a gateway drug

When the person who (illegally) sells weed also sells harder drugs, then yes, it can function as a gateway drug, because salesmen can be pushy.

Yellow posted...

They proved there was a conservative bias with an undisclosed cause.

So suppressing discussion of the Hunter laptop story under the premise of "hacked materials" was a conservative move? The files demonstrate they knew no hacking was involved and that the real reason was because they acted on behalf of the FBI.

How about the banning of Donald Trump on the basis of inciting violence. When Elon Musk restores the account there are all these posts saying to be peaceful, abide by the rule of law, and don't act like the progressives. Where are the posts calling for violence? If anything old twitter hid the evidence disproving that he was involved with any violence.

How about the very premise of speech as violence? They say they didn't shadow ban but it's clear they just called it visibility filtering instead. Their justification for it was this faulty premise of limiting harm be limiting reach. Do you think that's a conservative approach?

Those are just the ones that people are talking about most. There are many others examples where old twitter just didn't like an account and suspended them despite finding no violation. When Elon Musk brings the accounts back people were asking why they were all right-wing. Why isn't he restoring any leftist accounts? The answer is leftist accounts were rarely touched unless they did something really egregious.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

So suppressing discussion of the Hunter laptop story under the premise of "hacked materials" was a conservative move? The files demonstrate they knew no hacking was involved and that the real reason was because they acted on behalf of the FBI.

Did the files on Hunter's laptop belong to those that disseminated them? If not, then they qualify as hacked materials. "Hacked materials" doesn't have to fit any sort of narrow definition of what "hacking" is, it just means files to which you gained unauthorized access.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

How about the banning of Donald Trump on the basis of inciting violence. When Elon Musk restores the account there are all these posts saying to be peaceful, abide by the rule of law, and don't act like the progressives. Where are the posts calling for violence? If anything old twitter hid the evidence disproving that he was involved with any violence.

The Jan 6th riot - an objectively violent incident - happened for one reason and one reason only: The story Trump chose to peddle about the election being stolen. Had he not created and perpetuated that lie, the riot would not have happened. Because he used Twitter to promote that lie, he was using Twitter to incite violence, and Twitter chose to distance themselves from him to avoid being associated with that. It's very simple.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Those are just the ones that people are talking about most. There are many others examples where old twitter just didn't like an account and suspended them despite finding no violation. When Elon Musk brings the accounts back people were asking why they were all right-wing. Why isn't he restoring any leftist accounts? The answer is leftist accounts were rarely touched unless they did something really egregious.

That, or it's only right-wing pundits doing the really egregious things. You ever notice how everyone that says "You can't express any right-wing views on twitter!" tries to avoid the question when asked which right-wing views they feel they can't express on twitter? That would be because they're not being banned for suggesting that they'd like to see a fiscally conservative budget or loosening regulations that are hurting small businesses. They're being banned for saying they want vigilantes to shoot trans people that try to go into the "wrong" bathroom.

Moreover, what Yellow was talking about was not isolated incidents that you feel are evidence of a grand conspiracy to silence the right. He's talking about the platform's overall content and the sort of things it tries to promote to all users. Overall, Twitter (and most social media) leans quite unambiguously to the right in that regard, as every actual investigation into the matter (including twitter's own) has found. That does not mean the platform never ever does anything that doesn't favour conservatives, so citing individual examples to nothing to disprove the trend.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

So suppressing discussion of the Hunter laptop story under the premise of "hacked materials" was a conservative move? The files demonstrate they knew no hacking was involved and that the real reason was because they acted on behalf of the FBI.

They banned it because they were contacted by the Biden administration, and they took it down because it qualified as revenge porn, which is illegal.

As usual it's a qanon nothingburger.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

How about the banning of Donald Trump on the basis of inciting violence.

Yeah that's exactly what he did

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

The answer is leftist accounts were rarely touched unless they did something really egregious.

True! Let us ponder why leftists were not banned. It may have something to do with the TOS. Maybe equating LGBT = pedo? Maybe the harsh xenophobia? Maybe the rampant covid conspiracies that were killing people? You know what you can and can't talk about, you're one of the few that's avoided a Gamefaqs ban.

Maybe... just maybe... they had to ban that content to keep advertisers from fleeing their platform.

To be a Conservative these days is just to be a hateful sack of shit is the rule and not the exception. I don't really care for you atm, because I can only imagine what horrible things you think about trans people. You'd have to be blind to not see what they're gearing up towards.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

It was the Democrats who took away people's rights in 2020. The Republicans really didn't do much of anything.

The internal twitter files being released are proof that it is. You say "they should not be considered the same thing". Tell that to the progressives.

Not sure about all of that but there was one conviction related to trafficking minors and another person died in his cell while awaiting trial. Still no word on who the customers were.

He's in the White House now. He has been for 2 years. The Republicans once again didn't do much of anything and left it to regular people to sort out if he was elected fairly. In at least 2 states there were legal issues that called into question the results.

May god have mercy on your soul.
SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

How about the banning of Donald Trump on the basis of inciting violence. When Elon Musk restores the account there are all these posts saying to be peaceful, abide by the rule of law, and don't act like the progressives. Where are the posts calling for violence? If anything old twitter hid the evidence disproving that he was involved with any violence.

You're fucking lying. You can go to the twitter now and see him do nothing but lie the entire day of Jan 6, make one tweet calling for peace he did under duress and was followed up with one calling them fucking patriots which was a promotion of violence. Stop being a troll.

ReturnOfFa posted...

can I just ask you where you get your perspective

4chan

Cooperating with Democrats is a good thing.

The GOP are a bunch of hypocrites and anyone who knows their history especially from Nixon, to Reagan to now knows that.

They are anti everything no matter what they is, they are against it. They do not believe in helping fellow Americans, they do not believe in regulating businesses, they do not believe in gov programs, but they do believe in bailing out billion dollar banks etc via US taxpayer money.

They have destroyed public education, healthcare, freedoms (Patriot Act), the Court system (7/8 of the current Supreme Court Justices are all GOP appointed) etc etc

adjl posted...

it just means files to which you gained unauthorized access.

You don't need to have direct access to the laptop to be told what is on it or what the emails say. But that doesn't matter. Was it a conservative bias to suppress discussion about it?

adjl posted...

The Jan 6th riot - an objectively violent incident - happened for one reason and one reason only: The story Trump chose to peddle about the election being stolen.

Absolutely false. The Jan 6th protest happened because the Democrat party called into question the election process for the 4 years prior as well as the support shown for similar protests in 2020.

adjl posted...

You ever notice how everyone that says "You can't express any right-wing views on twitter!" tries to avoid the question when asked which right-wing views they feel they can't express on twitter?

No, I've never noticed that. Primarily because the bannings never had anything to do with what views people wanted to express. Simply not agreeing with the regressive talking points was enough to get someone labeled as right-wing. And simply being labeled as right-wing was enough to get someone banned, or just visibility filtered, regardless of anything they actually posted.

adjl posted...

Overall, Twitter (and most social media) leans quite unambiguously to the right in that regard

Whoever believes this must be so far left that other leftists look right-wing to them.

Yellow posted...

I can only imagine what horrible things you think about trans people.

You should ask @adjl, last time the subject came up I thought I was indifferent to them but he claimed to be in a better position to know what I think about something than I am.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Absolutely false. The Jan 6th protest happened because the Democrat party called into question the election process for the 4 years prior as well as the support shown for similar protests in 2020.

You are fucking delusional

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

You don't need to have direct access to the laptop to be told what is on it or what the emails say. But that doesn't matter. Was it a conservative bias to suppress discussion about it?

It's still discussion of hacked materials. Did anyone say that suppressing that discussion was conservative bias?

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Absolutely false. The Jan 6th protest happened because the Democrat party called into question the election process for the 4 years prior as well as the support shown for similar protests in 2020.

That's... not remotely true. That you believe it is suggests such a profound disconnect from empirical reality that I really don't know where to start trying to fix you.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

No, I've never noticed that.

Perhaps you should pay more attention, then.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Primarily because the bannings never had anything to do with what views people wanted to express. Simply not agreeing with the regressive talking points was enough to get someone labeled as right-wing. And simply being labeled as right-wing was enough to get someone banned, or just visibility filtered, regardless of anything they actually posted.

This is also just plain not true. By all means, though, feel free to provide examples of specific tweets that were taken down simply for "not agreeing with the regressive talking points." Bonus points if you find one that can't be completely invalidated withing 30 seconds of looking for context.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Whoever believes this must be so far left that other leftists look right-wing to them.

You can review the findings yourself if you want to interpret them. That's corroborated by countless other studies on the matter, though: Social media algorithms tend to have a measurable right-wing promotion bias. That's generally not a deliberate decision on the part of the companies running them, it's just a consequence of how they play out (namely, far-right content tends to be more objectionable and controversial and therefore generates more traffic). Again, individual examples of deleting right-wing content (which, again, is generally taken down not because it's right-wing, but because it's really horrible content) do not invalidate that overall trend.

imagine arguing about politics on a dying video game website from the 90s lmao

adjl posted...

Social media algorithms tend to have a measurable right-wing promotion bias.

Ooh... you're talking about algorithms while I'm talking about administrative actions taken by people. People have bias. Algorithms just work with the information they're given.

adjl posted...

far-right content tends to be more objectionable and controversial and therefore generates more traffic

I find that right-wing content is just more engaging. Left-wing content makes everything about race, sexuality, gender, and privilege. It gets boring fast. They never offer an argument that would persuade someone who doesn't already think with that mindset. Right-wing content will provide something thought provoking. Algorithms will measure that engagement without aknowledgement of ideological leaning. The bias I'm talking about only cares about ideology.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/1/5/AAFUswAADZxv.jpg

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I make it up on the spot to fit the topic at hand. I get information from a variety of sources and decide on my own what I think about what is said. Some sources are clips of news from different countries to see what they think of the US. Others are people who read an article from a news paper and give their thoughts on it. The thing I pay attention to are what values are they expressing and if there are values in conflict which do they prioritize over the other.

Can you specify the 'variety of sources' that you most frequently check? Facebook? New York Post? Your phone's news feed? Who are the people that 'read an article'? Russell Brand? Matt Taibbi? Jimmy Dore? Internet Today?

No offense, but you didn't provide anything concrete in your answer when you should be able to. Seems to happen a lot these days that people strafe around a question instead of being as direct as possible. Still just curious if you're willing to be specific.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I find that right-wing content is just more engaging. Left-wing content makes everything about race, sexuality, gender, and privilege. It gets boring fast. They never offer an argument that would persuade someone who doesn't already think with that mindset. Right-wing content will provide something thought provoking. Algorithms will measure that engagement without aknowledgement of ideological leaning. The bias I'm talking about only cares about ideology.

Do you find that the right-wing doesn't make everything about race, sexuality, gender and privilege?

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

They never offer an argument that would persuade someone who doesn't already think with that mindset.

And which mindset is that, exactly? That people should be accepting of those that are different in completely harmless ways? Because it is indeed rather difficult to convince people that place no value in not being a piece of shit to stop being a piece of shit, though that's more a function of said shit than it is of those left in the unfortunate position of needing to convince them.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Right-wing content will provide something thought provoking.

Such as...

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Ooh... you're talking about algorithms while I'm talking about administrative actions taken by people. People have bias. Algorithms just work with the information they're given.

I'm talking about results. Algorithms could very easily be tailored to favour left-wing content if that were actually the company's goal.

Yellow posted...

It is quite true. You can look at statistics and there is a direct correlation. It's one of the most well-known ones, surprised you haven't heard about it.

Usually, they'll respond to that one by saying colleges are indoctrinating echo chambers.

There are studies saying the opposite. It depends on how you are getting the data. Engineering, Law, Business, Theology, Medicine, Meteorology, Agriculture, Criminal Justice are all dominated by Republicans.

That they are actually good people...

lol this thread got cleaned up

Skard ain't an active member no mo'

Wow that was a trash fire.