Board 8 > Eff 2021 Mafia: Topic 4 - Chris Harrison Somehow Getting Even Worse

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Ben, do you get to scan every day phase? Apologies if someone already asked you.

Also I do appreciate the cookie pictures

So I am taking it Ben's scan is legit-

Apologies for inactivity on my end. Christmas cookies baking day. Lots of 'em, aaaand I see we have the usual day 1 stuff. Ben making claims and getting the easy votes, Ignorrik, Lopen prodding at the edges of a rabbit hole, and... what the hell? No flowchart?

##vote: changmas

I saw the Stop and decided in the moment to get it in in case the stop was like a scum shot headed my way

I'm not very trusted with a gun

So I think Isquen being SK is practically zero.

The way I see this is. A. Scare is scum or SK. Isquen is town. B. Isquen is scum (I'll come back to this) and scare is town or SK. C. Isquen is town. Scare is town or SK.

So a. I don't like scares explanation at all. There is some things I could point to that supports it, but it reeks to me. If Scare is scum, isquen has to be town if this claim is legit.

B. So, isquen as SK doesn't make sense to me, but Isquen as scum is actually plausibly a great play. He makes it known in the open he is going to shoot. It explains an extra kill at night. To him Scare is town or SK, so it's a net positive for scum regardless. He knows he won't get roleblocked by scum, and also if Scare flips town he just goes... never would I have thought there was 2 town vigilantes. He probably avoids scans due to them thinking he would prove himself or not with his shot. He already said he would be going to the target at night so no reason to care if tracked or watched. It's kinda high level misdirection. Question is... is he capable of coming up with it.

Then C. Isquen is actually town. But Scare isn't scum either and this is a possibly unbalanced, experimental game for fun or something like the host told us. And there is probably a good bit of BPs or crap out in the wild also.

Alright. So sorry for lying, town. If its any consolation, I did not learn my lesson and will do it again next time. Below are the facts.

I am The Texas Electrical Power Grid, Town Fireproof. I'm frozen. Attempts to ignite me will fail.

1) This means I went into the game knowing there was an arsonist. Always a chance I am a trap and the Arsonist is town, but much more likely it is opposed to my alignment.

2) Isquen makes his claim. Lea is very correct in this post

3) If we are to believe Scare, and I do, that means for Isquen to be town the game would have two town vigs + mafia + an arsonist? Its too much killing. My role existing doomed Isquen from the moment he claimed.

Then you're probably asking why I didnt just say all of this in the first place? Good question. It was more fun this way. Like a Christopher Nolan movie where they tell the story backwards

*sigh*

Isquen full claim

Fine.

I am Alec Baldwin, Negligent Day Vigilante.

Nighttime, I choose a target.
At a certain time in the day, I will shoot at that target. If I practice proper gun safety, the shot will be a blank. If I don't, the round is live and the target dies barring any extraneous circumstances. I can designate a target night one, or choose not to at all.

Fine.

I am Alec Baldwin, Negligent Day Vigilante.

Nighttime, I choose a target.
At a certain time in the day, I will shoot at that target. If I practice proper gun safety, the shot will be a blank. If I don't, the round is live and the target dies barring any extraneous circumstances. I can designate a target night one, or choose not to at all.

Why were you so hesitant to claim this

You said you coulda chose night 0.

That's what I meant, I'm phone typing here.

I basically did already. Ben is putting the Augean Stables to shame.

Fine.

I am Alec Baldwin, Negligent Day Vigilante.

Nighttime, I choose a target.
At a certain time in the day, I will shoot at that target. If I practice proper gun safety, the shot will be a blank. If I don't, the round is live and the target dies barring any extraneous circumstances. I can designate a target night one, or choose not to at all.

It's just random if you shoot or blank?

Also please expound on the mechanics of practicing gun safety

Also please expound on the mechanics of practicing gun safety

Did I check the gun via a day action? Oh good, it's a blank. Pew pew!

Did I fail to do so? Pew BLAM! And then I'm never allowed near a gun again.

Did I check the gun via a day action? Oh good, it's a blank. Pew pew!

Did I fail to do so? Pew BLAM! And then I'm never allowed near a gun again.

Alright. So sorry for lying, town. If its any consolation, I did not learn my lesson and will do it again next time. Below are the facts.

I am The Texas Electrical Power Grid, Town Fireproof. I'm frozen. Attempts to ignite me will fail.

1) This means I went into the game knowing there was an arsonist. Always a chance I am a trap and the Arsonist is town, but much more likely it is opposed to my alignment.

2) Isquen makes his claim. Lea is very correct in this post

3) If we are to believe Scare, and I do, that means for Isquen to be town the game would have two town vigs + mafia + an arsonist? Its too much killing. My role existing doomed Isquen from the moment he claimed.

Then you're probably asking why I didnt just say all of this in the first place? Good question. It was more fun this way. Like a Christopher Nolan movie where they tell the story backwards

Unfortunately I think the most likely chance is that Isquen is a poor 3rd party, which would explain why he felt conformable admitting he could kill, because he might have planned to side with town.

Its why I went directly to saying I rolecopped him an arsonist to see if he would just admit he's caught and third party.

I do hope he is scum, because I realize if he is third party it makes me look like I could easily just be scum Fireproof. Guess if that happens I might actually have to play well tomorrow

Honestly I am not sure what is scummier,

Shooting as Vig D1

OR

Being town vig and not shooting the claimed town vig who shot D1

the latter of those is impossible in the context of today since isquen didn't choose a target N0. couldn't shoot anyone.

But he could have just shot him tomorrow right?

I think we just let isquen shoot scare tomorrow then.

Gives us a lot of info

But he could have just shot him tomorrow right?

Being town vig and not shooting the claimed town vig who shot D1